Henaynei and Anasavta, thanks for sharing your concerns.
Maaan, that depends on "debate." Discussion with strongly held opinions can dialogue back and forth without bloodletting.
The way I read it MarkR's post it looked like those things would not be allowed to be discussed
b'Shalom {iPod touch w/CF app}
Well not up for debate. Mjs are for the most part kosher, or at
Least the majority is, should that be debatable if its a common practise
Regime?
Law against debate?
Isn't that a little dramatic?
Are you not tracking with the posts?
No, not debate per se, but my impression of MarkR's suggestion was that and the other topics noted were off limits, not just off limits for debate.
b'Shalom {iPod touch w/CF app}
off topic /no debate topics
- Kosher diet
- MJ observance of torah
- Who is MJ enough
- Trinity
Ok, I'll try and address this as best I can; I will start from the bottom up:
Trinity: This one is easy, Christian Forums SoF is the Nicene Creed; debate by anyone in any forum against the Trinity is therefore not allowed. It is included here because (as Tish stated earlier in the thread) there are non-trinitarian members of this forum, they may post here, but may not post against trinitarian doctrine, nor promote non-trinitarian theology either.
Who is MJ enough: This one is easy too; note our rule and the parts which I highlighted in red, and my notes in green:
Flaming and Harassment
● Do not insult, belittle, mock, goad, personally attack, threaten, harass, or use derogatory nicknames in reference to other members or groups of members. Address the context of the post, not the poster.
● If you are flamed, do not respond in-kind. Alert staff to the situation by utilizing the report button. Do not report another member out of spite.
● Do not state or imply that another member or group of members who have identified themselves as Christian are not Christian. (My note: MJs are considered Christians, this rule includes stating or implying that some are not or less MJ/Christian than others)
● Those who do not adhere to the
Statement of Faith are welcome as members and participants in discussions, but you are required to respect these beliefs, even if you do not share them.
(This addresses the trinity)
● Do not make another member's experience on this site miserable. This includes, making false accusations or persistently attacking them in the open forums.
● Respect another member's request to cease personal contact.
If a non member is present and being disruptive; report them. If you believe that someone is using an icon of convenience to disrupt your forum; report them. State your reasons in the report, and staff will review it, and action it accordingly... it's what we do!
Kosher diet and MJ observance of torah: As per Tish's reply;
Well not up for debate. Mjs are for the most part kosher, or at
Least the majority is, should that be debatable if its a common practise
Discussion is fine, but debating that "my way is better than your way" or you "must do this, that and/or the other thing" will not be allowed; however it's fine to state that "for me I believe that I must..." or "while I do 'this'; I may not do 'that'", would be OK providing that one does not cross the line with the flaming rules I quoted above. Debating
against Kosher or Torah, whether by a member or non member is not allowed in this proposal.
It is not our desire to stifle meaningful discussion and debate; it is, however our desire to protect the members of the MJ fora, and (all) the members here from attack and harrasment; regardless of their personal levels of observance and adherence to the Torah and Kosher.
I hope that this clarifies things.
Mark
