Staff and Member discussion thread.

[Tishri1]

Oooooo I like! That way it wouldn't necessarily be axed, just moved so it wouldn't disrupt the more "tranquil" atmosphere in the general forum.

I don't think the issues that brought us here should be up for debate, also how different groups(MJ or others, )view Torah shouldn't be up for debate

 

[Gxg (G²)]

I go here
Baruch Haba! Welcome! : Kehilat Ariel Messianic Synagogue

Shalom, Tishri1. Nice to meet you and see where you blossom

My garden's at Congregation Miskan David..and by extension, the study group connected with it known as Mivdad Shem HaKodesh ( here, where I'm one of the assistant leaders/deacons)--and I happen to connect well with other MJish believers who have a love for Holy Hip Hop ( #21 / #1 ) and houses of prayer

 

[Tishri1]

Lol @ your pic there EZ

Holy Kisses to you as well, sis...and to everyone else as well who's comfortable (as I know alot of guys can still be weirded out by it). Had it happen to me one time when I was introduced to the leader of a homeless ministry I did work at..

Big dude/ex con who was pretty intimidating....And when he tried to greet me with a kiss, I backed up since I didn't know what to do--till he put me in check and said "Bro, I'm commanded by God to do this. Don't trip ."

Really made me rethink some things culturally, as it was a way of blessing..and it didn't say to do so only when you're in agreement with someone--but for all believers. I think the same ideology applies today, as it concerns praying before posting and not choosing to walk away from a conversation thinking the worst of someone in refusal to either pray for them, bless them or lift them up

 

[Tishri1]

I really like the book club idea too.

To tack on one more thought to the debate forum idea. Should it be MJ only so it doesn't turn into GT part too? That way only those willing to accept the SOP will be allowed to debate.
OK off to eat our shabbat dinner. Baked lemon/rosemary chicken, wild and brown rice and lima beans. BFN!

Yummy, yeah even thinking about the past few weeks I would love to nix the debate ideas till we get back to some good discussion first....perhaps a "light debate" tag in here or what ever it was Lulav suggested earlier

 

[Gxg (G²)]

Lol @ your pic there EZ

I can only imagine how much more wild it was for Christ who had people leaning on him as well..seeing how different culture was for them, just as it is today ( 311 )

John 13:22-24
Now there was leaning on Jesus’ bosom one of His disciples, whom Jesus loved. 24 Simon Peter therefore motioned to him to ask who it was of whom He spoke.

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Most guys today would be freaked out seeing another dude leaning up on others, but it's not as crazy as folks think. Done it myself with my close friends as well as hugging/crying and holy kisses--and it was all good

All of it within the spirit that others have been seeking to achieve here when it comes to unity amongst brothers/sisters:

Ephesians 4

Unity in the Body of Christ

1 As a prisoner for the Lord, then, I urge you to live a life worthy of the calling you have received. 2 Be completely humble and gentle; be patient, bearing with one another in love. 3 Make every effort to keep the unity of the Spirit through the bond of peace. 4 There is one body and one Spirit—just as you were called to one hope when you were called— 5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism; 6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.

 

[Tishri1]

A dance club? I could get behind that!

On staff We use to Skype or text as a group while watching movies or football games
It was fun I forgot about that

We also use to to have all night chat groups , those were fun too.....that would be great for Shavuot!

She and I have talked a couple of times on the issue as it concerns having conversations on that (as well as other things like a Sports club, Dance Club, etc) and seeing what all of us are like when debates are not in view. The same people that may argue against one another, if together in person, would possibly end up sitting down watching Disney movies like "Beauty and the Beast" or "Tangled" or action films from the 90s like "True Lies" and "Eraser" or musicals like "Fiddler on the Roof"/"West Side Story" and "The Sound of Music" when they have the chance...

If a book club got started, I think it'd be cool to engage in...but I think it should be open to others who are supportative of MJism (or at least not trying to do as many in GT do and go to war against it). Although I'm not against others that are Non-Messianic joining in since it doesn't seem right to be exclusive/only interact with MJish folks on everyday life issues, I do think it'd make a difference knowing that interaction wouldn't allow for things to be said or done against the SOP...and thus, those outside of MJism would need to keep that in mind

 

[Gxg (G²)]

A dance club? I could get behind that!

It'd be sticky, of course, for others believing that dance should not be done in MJish fellowships...but then again, that's why it's a club since not all have to be in it

Would definately join in with ya if you make one...

On staff We use to Skype or text as a group while watching movies or football games

Sweet....

It was fun I forgot about that

We also use to to have all night chat groups , those were fun too.....that would be great for Shavuot!

Perhaps we could get that in action as soon as possible.

 

[Tishri1]

http://messiahmarietta.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/mishkan-david-news.pdf

We are in a Baptist churches building too

Shalom, Tishri1. Nice to meet you and see where you blossom

My garden's at Congregation Miskan David..and by extension, the study group connected with it known as Mivdad Shem HaKodesh ( here, where I'm one of the assistant leaders/deacons)--and I happen to connect well with other MJish believers who have a love for Holy Hip Hop ( #21 / #1 ) and houses of prayer

 

[Gxg (G²)]

We are in a Baptist churches building too

Small world after all...and glad to know that there's connection in the means of fellowship. To be clear, however, the smaller discipleship group that meets on Thursdays (Mivdad) is held in the home of the congregation leader who lives near it while the larger congregtion as a whole all meet on Saturdays in one of the church buildings.

 

[Tishri1]

It'd be sticky, of course, for others believing that dance should not be done in MJish fellowships...but then again, that's why it's a club since not all have to be in it

Would definately join in with ya if you make one...
Sweet....

Perhaps we could get that in action as soon as possible.

Ok sticking a thread for a dance club for ya EZ....

 

[Gxg (G²)]

Ok sticking a thread for a dance club for ya EZ....

Praying the best for it

 

[Avodat]

I really like the book club idea too.

To tack on one more thought to the debate forum idea. Should it be MJ only so it doesn't turn into GT part too? That way only those willing to accept the SOP will be allowed to debate.
OK off to eat our shabbat dinner. Baked lemon/rosemary chicken, wild and brown rice and lima beans. BFN!

Not sure that would work unless something is done about Icons of Convenience, as keeps being said on these threads.

 

[Yahudim]

Hi Tishri,

Great idea, as long as the OP gets to determine if it devolves into debate.

Wheeeeeel I don't think we should open that can of worms, seeing how carried away it can get in here

What can of worms? I'm not sure I understand what you are getting at. Not sure you understood my intentions either.

There is nothing so frustrating as starting a thread to discuss the finer nuances of a topic and have it hijacked by people that want to debate something else. The OP should be given a certain amount of leeway in determining what is off topic in their own thread (in consensus with Moderator approval of course). Is there a consequence to this line of thinking that I'm not seeing?

That's what I meant. What did you think I meant?

 

[MarkRohfrietsch]

Hi Tishri,

What can of worms? I'm not sure I understand what you are getting at. Not sure you understood my intentions either.

There is nothing so frustrating as starting a thread to discuss the finer nuances of a topic and have it hijacked by people that want to debate something else. The OP should be given a certain amount of leeway in determining what is off topic in their own thread (in consensus with Moderator approval of course). Is there a consequence to this line of thinking that I'm not seeing?

That's what I meant. What did you think I meant?

Hi Talmidium.

It's not unreasonable to put stipulations in an OP, as they can help define the scope of a discussion. If it's a specific question for a specific "group", it can be specified that one is looking for answers only from members of that "group" (although others are always welcome to post in fellowship in these threads); if it's a specific question for an individual, don't start a thread, send a PM.

Using stipulations to limit the scope of a discussion in an OP also helps staff when a post is reported for off topic.

 

[Chaplain David]

Hi Tishri,

What can of worms? I'm not sure I understand what you are getting at. Not sure you understood my intentions either.

There is nothing so frustrating as starting a thread to discuss the finer nuances of a topic and have it hijacked by people that want to debate something else. The OP should be given a certain amount of leeway in determining what is off topic in their own thread (in consensus with Moderator approval of course). Is there a consequence to this line of thinking that I'm not seeing?

That's what I meant. What did you think I meant?

Good morning on this wonderful Shabbat.

Brother Talmidim,

In addition to what Supervisor Mark said above, if someone or several members start taking your topic and turning it into something entirely different like "how they milk cows in Buffalo," we have staff you can contact who will help get the thread back on topic if we find it necessary. For now, the team members laid out in this thread would be the people to contact for assistance. Make sense?

Also, if you'd rather make a kind post before contacting staff saying something like, "Brothers and sisters, as the OP I think we're getting off topic. Let's return to the OP. I appreciate your help and God bless you" might be all you need.

Now if you do this and someone starts giving you guff or it doesn't get back on topic then we still have the option of contacting one of the MJ Helping Staff as I said above.

Shalom, David

 

[Yahudim]

Hi Talmidium.

It's not unreasonable to put stipulations in an OP, as they can help define the scope of a discussion. If it's a specific question for a specific "group", it can be specified that one is looking for answers only from members of that "group" (although others are always welcome to post in fellowship in these threads); if it's a specific question for an individual, don't start a thread, send a PM.

Using stipulations to limit the scope of a discussion in an OP also helps staff when a post is reported for off topic.

Good morning on this wonderful Shabbat.

Brother Talmidim,

In addition to what Supervisor Mark said above, if someone or several members start taking your topic and turning it into something entirely different like "how they milk cows in Buffalo," we have staff you can contact who will help get the thread back on topic if we find it necessary. For now, the team members laid out in this thread would be the people to contact for assistance. Make sense?

Also, if you'd rather make a kind post before contacting staff saying something like, "Brothers and sisters, as the OP I think we're getting off topic. Let's return to the OP. I appreciate your help and God bless you" might be all you need.

Now if you do this and someone starts giving you guff or it doesn't get back on topic then we still have the option of contacting one of the MJ Helping Staff as I said above.

Shalom, David

Shalom Mark, Shalom Sacerdote,

Thanks for more fully stating my case. That is exactly what I meant.

I have no illusions of giving OPs 'Mod like' powers. I even said in my post, "The OP should be given a certain amount of leeway in determining what is off topic in their own thread (in consensus with Moderator approval of course)."

I apologize if I was not clear, but it seems to me that we are saying the same thing. I also agree that often all it takes is a nudge in the right direction. On the other hand, sometimes the 'herding cats' analogy seems more on point. Thanks again guys.

 

[Tishri1]

No I agree with you completely that's why I would like to restrict debate not encourage it ...I'm for less not more

Hi Tishri,

What can of worms? I'm not sure I understand what you are getting at. Not sure you understood my intentions either.

There is nothing so frustrating as starting a thread to discuss the finer nuances of a topic and have it hijacked by people that want to debate something else. The OP should be given a certain amount of leeway in determining what is off topic in their own thread (in consensus with Moderator approval of course). Is there a consequence to this line of thinking that I'm not seeing?

That's what I meant. What did you think I meant?

 

[Tishri1]

Absolutely!!!!

Hi Talmidium.

It's not unreasonable to put stipulations in an OP, as they can help define the scope of a discussion. If it's a specific question for a specific "group", it can be specified that one is looking for answers only from members of that "group" (although others are always welcome to post in fellowship in these threads); if it's a specific question for an individual, don't start a thread, send a PM.

Using stipulations to limit the scope of a discussion in an OP also helps staff when a post is reported for off topic.

 

[Tishri1]

Absolutely too!!!

Good morning on this wonderful Shabbat.

Brother Talmidim,

In addition to what Supervisor Mark said above, if someone or several members start taking your topic and turning it into something entirely different like "how they milk cows in Buffalo," we have staff you can contact who will help get the thread back on topic if we find it necessary. For now, the team members laid out in this thread would be the people to contact for assistance. Make sense?

Also, if you'd rather make a kind post before contacting staff saying something like, "Brothers and sisters, as the OP I think we're getting off topic. Let's return to the OP. I appreciate your help and God bless you" might be all you need.

Now if you do this and someone starts giving you guff or it doesn't get back on topic then we still have the option of contacting one of the MJ Helping Staff as I said above.

Shalom, David

 

[Tishri1]

Let's talk about debate, some of you want it even after all we have seen here in its ability to take a fellowship forum down....I'm soooooo against it, what are the bennifits and what are the consequences ?

Let's make a list of pros and cons k?