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Are non-Christians deceived by the devil?

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Another Christian on here told me Baha'i's are deceived by Satan. It it common to think non-Christians are being deceived by demonic forces?

I think it is very possible, but more often than not non-Christians seem to prize their own sense of righteousness above that of God.
 
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I think it is very possible, but more often than not non-Christians seem to prize their own sense of righteousness above that of God.

I do not mean atheists. I mean all non-Christians. Jews worship and obey God. Islam means "submission to God's will". The purpose of existence in Islam is to love and serve God.
 
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I do not mean atheists. I mean all non-Christians. Jews worship and obey God. Islam means "submission to God's will". The purpose of existence in Islam is to love and serve God.

So did I.

The Jews knew God and were asked to give up their religion/Method of worship for Him. They refused. In a sense they chose religion/sense of righteousness over God.

The doctrine of Islam is similar in that Their Prophet and their book is the focus of their labor in the name of their god, but when asked to reconcile the differences between (The other two testament of the know God and their own. They hold on to their version of righteousness.) That is why I said Their God. Because of the fundamental differences between the two.
 
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So did I.

The Jews knew God and were asked to give up their religion/Method of worship for Him. They refused. In a sense they chose religion/sense of righteousness over God.

The doctrine of Islam is similar in that Their Prophet and their book is the focus of their labor in the name of their god, but when asked to reconcile the differences between (The other two testament of the know God and their own. They hold on to their version of righteousness.) That is why I said Their God. Because of the fundamental differences between the two.

The Jews and Muslims think Jesus is a false messiah. In they're eyes they're worshiping God correctly to worship Jesus would be idolatry. They are living their lives for God still. They are not choosing their own righteousness over God. You have a disagreement on who God is.
 
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The Jews and Muslims think Jesus is a false messiah. In they're eyes they're worshiping God correctly to worship Jesus would be idolatry. They are living they're lives for God still. They are not choosing their own righteousness over God. You have a disagreement on who God is.

Whoah whoah my understanding is that muslims believe that jesus is a phrophet, a messiah. Not the son of god.
 
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Whoah whoah my understanding is that muslims believe that jesus is a phrophet, a messiah. Not the son of god.

Muslims do believe Jesus was born to a virgin. I made a typo when I was writing. They also think he was a prophet. I'm not that well versed in Islam but I think they believe he is the messiah but not divine.
 
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Muslims do believe Jesus was born to a virgin. I made a typo when I was writing. They also think he was a prophet. I'm not that well versed in Islam but I think they believe he is the messiah but not divine.

Yeh main thing not divine. Fitting in with everything before. No random poof son of god here. Just good old prophets speaking the word of god like the good old days.
 
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The Jews and Muslims think Jesus is a false messiah. In they're eyes they're worshiping God correctly to worship Jesus would be idolatry. They are living they're lives for God still. They are not choosing their own righteousness over God. You have a disagreement on who God is.

Why do we have that discrepancy?

Because they only know God one way. Through the method observances they were given. They chose to worship the worship rather than adhering to the worship and transitioning the act of worshiping to God when the time was right.

Also know not all Jews thought this way. It's just when then transitioned into Worshiping God they took the name Christian. The first and second century church was nearly all Jew.
 
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Yeh main thing not divine. Fitting in with everything before. No random poof son of god here. Just good old prophets speaking the word of god like the good old days.

I don't quite understand what you're saying. You're an atheist who believes in prophets?
 
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I don't quite understand what you're saying. You're an atheist who believes in prophets?

No he is a troll trying to find an arguement he can win. That is why he starts a new thread when he can no longer challenge what was said in the last one.
 
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No he is a troll trying to find an arguement he can win. That is why he starts a new thread when he can no longer challenge what was said in the last one.

Im not trolling. Im just trying to find out what christians say about certain topics. In the context of talking about phrophets i was merely saying what makes sense if you believe it all. Reading a book that talks about prophets alot, then all of a sudden son of god, then reading another book on about the prophets again. In short old testament= prophets, new= son of god, quran= phrophets.
 
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Im not trolling. Im just trying to find out what christians say about certain topics. In the context of talking about phrophets i was merely saying what makes sense if you believe it all. Reading a book that talks about prophets alot, then all of a sudden son of god, then reading another book on about the prophets again. In short old testament= prophets, new= son of god, quran= phrophets.

The Koran isn't really a continuation of the bible. That's not a very good argument against Chrsitianity.

Back to the original question: Are non-Christians deceived by Satan?
 
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The Koran isn't really a continuation of the bible. That's not a very good argument against Chrsitianity.

Back to the original question: Are non-Christians deceived by Satan?

It certainly isnt. Its a mish mash of both.
But yes back to the question.
 
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:amen: Well , either way if a thread be born of a Troll then let the light shine and create it anew,so as to serve this forum's best interests and not the Trolls, if there be any here.

With regard to Islam and Jesus.

Perhaps this will assist:

What Do Muslims Believe about Jesus?

Muslims respect and revere Jesus (peace be upon him). They consider him one of the greatest of God’s messengers to mankind. The Quran confirms his virgin birth, and a chapter of the Quran is entitled ‘Maryam’ (Mary). The Quran describes the birth of Jesus as follows:(Continues)



With respect to the OP question, I think of the Etymology that accompanies "Satan" and "Devil".
Are non-Christians deceived by not finding faith in the one faith that professes of itself it is the only true faith?



Wouldn't anyone who holds faith in something believe, because they comport their lives unto it's tenets, whatever faith that may be, from Christian, unto Muslim, Jewish, Pagan, etc... Feel theirs is the only faith that resonates truth unto their hearts?



Even we as Christians arrive at the belief our path is the righteous and one truth that will let us come to the Father, through belief in his son Jesus, because the Gospels tell us so.
And yet those are written by men and are found to be dated as much as 50 years after Jesus died. While most of the New Testament is written by Paul, formerly Saul of Tarsus who, as a Pharisee, once thought Christians were blasphemers and hunted them down so as to persecute them, see them killed, for teaching a falsehood in the name of a Messiah the Jewish faith did not recognize as the Messiah sent by God according to the truth they believed in their sacred text.



So, is it the Devil deceiving good people who are not Christian? Or rather may it be thought that the Devil, as the adversary of righteousness and the one and only God, so that there can be no other, the Alpha and the Omega, would be opposed to any faith that inspired one's steps toward the light of truth and God?


And what did early humans find in the after life, or that what guided their steps, prior to the advent of Christianity over 2000 years ago? Or Judaism, from which our understanding of Yahweh derives before the coming of the New Testament?











http://www.islam-guide.com/ch3-10.htm
 
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Are non-Christians deceived by the devil?

Are Christians deceived by the devil? Are Christians snatched up by spirits of pride and wrath whilst condemning non-Christians?

I think so.

Once you make it your business (as a Christian) to beat it into people that what they believe is a lie from Satan, your motivations have less do to with the righteousness of Jesus Christ and more with your own righteousness.
 
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Im not trolling. Im just trying to find out what christians say about certain topics. In the context of talking about phrophets i was merely saying what makes sense if you believe it all. Reading a book that talks about prophets alot, then all of a sudden son of god, then reading another book on about the prophets again. In short old testament= prophets, new= son of god, quran= phrophets.
My mistake your efforts fit a very popular profile. Time will tell for sure.
 
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