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[seekingagnostic32]

Jesus was not this Charismatic handsome Guy (often portrayed), but according to Isaiah was an average looking Jew, very approachable.

Well Jesus wasn't a Christian, nor a woman so I don't see the relevance here, sorry.

I find it odd how Christians are always insulting their Lord's looks. I think Jesus was quite an attractive man.

 

[seekingagnostic32]

Yes, this is the Gospel you know: deny yourself take up your Cross and follow Jesus, because ... that's where all the hot babes are.

Forgive me my blasphemy, but - seriously dude? We all need to be honest with the Lord about our struggles, and Christianity = getting the Blessing of Abraham. His wife was HOT well into her 60's ... that's a part of the Gospel most of Churchianity refuses to mention. And yet none of the Promises are along these lines; Abraham and Sarah were their own unique individuals. It's much more correct thinking to come to terms with the fact that if you get YOUR Spirituality together, you'll become much more attractive to women. Nothing wrong with that being a motivator, but there's still that "thou shalt have no other Gods before Him" thing. The focus of our lives should be on "things above," not carnality. (This just might be one of the best indicators of maturity, in the Christian sense?)

No argument there.

This was mostly just to see if Christian women are better looking than worldly, or atheist, ones. Generally, I've been told that is true. Have you seen atheist women? Oh Lord. It's not good. Generally speaking, I think the premise I'm asking here is true.

Of course true spirituality is the pearl of great price that we must all search out. No amount of pretty girls can detract from that beautiful pearl, can they?

As for God's jealousy... I don't know what to say about that. It's hard to imagine an omnipotent being being so jealous and spiteful over nothing. Hmm.

It's also laughable that this said being created the human body (I'm told?) and yet demands that we hate it and shun sexuality for some "super-spiritual" endeavours. I dun get it.

 

[razeontherock]

It's also laughable that this said being created the human body (I'm told?) and yet demands that we hate it and shun sexuality for some "super-spiritual" endeavours. I dun get it.

I agree that attitude is wrong, and it is not what the Bible teaches. At the same time it IS possible to willingly be celibate for the purpose of greater dedication to God. I find He accepts what we offer Him, if done humbly and from a pure heart.

 

[razeontherock]

So the way a person looks on the outside makes no difference to what they are on the inside?

Nobody's addressed this, so I will. In our society women in particular are susceptible to the ill of feeling ugly "inside" if they don't think they measure up to whatever unrealistic expectations she may feel are imposed on her. This can be a downward spiral! OTOH, an outwardly beautiful woman can have such a nasty personality that I perceive her as physically ugly (even repulsive) as well.
So as far as this might relate to your OP, coming to the Lord may well make a woman more attractive. At the same time, most people don't really get their Spirituality together until later in life, so ...

 

[Heidiii]

So the way a person looks on the outside makes no difference to what they are on the inside?

Correct. It is a shallow attitude that says one implies the other.

 

[grasping the after wind]

Well Jesus wasn't a Christian, nor a woman so I don't see the relevance here, sorry.

I find it odd how Christians are always insulting their Lord's looks. I think Jesus was quite an attractive man.

Since Isaiah was long dead when Jesus was around I don't know why one would use his portrayal of the Messiah as an eyewitness account of Jesus ' physical looks. I can't say whether or not Jesus was attractive in a physical way but is that really of any importance?

 

[seekingagnostic32]

Correct. It is a shallow attitude that says one implies the other.

Oh, so it's shallow for an employer to not hire an applicant because he shows up unshaven, wearing old, dirty, smelly clothes with stains that are t-shirt and jeans rather than a suit? Hmmm, I see.

Or it's shallow to conclude that someone is a messy slob when they live in perpetual filth, never clean their houses, cars or themselves (i.e. poor hygiene)? Hmmm, really?

I don't think you understand how the real world works.

As it is within, so it is without.

Example. A person has poor self image. They see themselves as ugly on the inside. Therefore, they do not try to look good on the outside. Yet, the person who has confidence and feels good about himself, will by nature, do his best to look good, dress well and make himself look as he is on the inside.

I don't know what planet you guys are from here, because on planet earth, we do things differently and don't live in fairytale land where everyone skips over the rainbows and it rains Skittles.

 

[razeontherock]

See, that's why you should join the Church. The first promise is raining skittles

 

[grasping the after wind]

See, that's why you should join the Church. The first promise is raining skittles

I'd rather have it rain M&Ms. Skittles just don't do it for me.

 

[Heidiii]

Oh, so it's shallow for an employer to not hire an applicant because he shows up unshaven, wearing old, dirty, smelly clothes with stains that are t-shirt and jeans rather than a suit? Hmmm, I see.

Or it's shallow to conclude that someone is a messy slob when they live in perpetual filth, never clean their houses, cars or themselves (i.e. poor hygiene)? Hmmm, really?

I don't think you understand how the real world works.

As it is within, so it is without.

Example. A person has poor self image. They see themselves as ugly on the inside. Therefore, they do not try to look good on the outside. Yet, the person who has confidence and feels good about himself, will by nature, do his best to look good, dress well and make himself look as he is on the inside.

I don't know what planet you guys are from here, because on planet earth, we do things differently and don't live in fairytale land where everyone skips over the rainbows and it rains Skittles.

Yes, to some extent. But it's to a limited extent. And common sense should say where to draw the line.

And there are many girls who obsess over their appearence, and some guys actually seem to think they're "hot" (personally I think they look awful though), and inside they can be quite nasty individuals. So, caring about your appearance does not necessarily mean you are a good person at all. What if a person had a disability or illness or some kind that hurt their "outer beauty" and you weren't aware of it so just assumed they looked the way they did because of what they are like? And people when they are depressed sometimes forget about their appearance. Does that make them bad people inside? Not at all!

And there's no way that you should be judging other people like this.

Arguing with people that you think outer beauty => inner beauty is just ridiculous. Frankly, I don't even understand why you're asking this. It's so beside the point and so irrelevant to ANYTHING that actually matters regarding "exploring christianity". Although I have been getting the impression that you're looking at the possibility of converting to Christianity for reasons that a lot of people here would consider as the wrong reasons. It's nearly like you want to be a Christian for *Satan's* benefit rather than the *Lord*.

Please try and accept the Holy Spirit for the right reasons, and follow the advice of the Lord.

 

[seekingagnostic32]

Yes, to some extent. But it's to a limited extent. And common sense should say where to draw the line.

And there are many girls who obsess over their appearence, and some guys actually seem to think they're "hot" (personally I think they look awful though), and inside they can be quite nasty individuals. So, caring about your appearance does not necessarily mean you are a good person at all. What if a person had a disability or illness or some kind that hurt their "outer beauty" and you weren't aware of it so just assumed they looked the way they did because of what they are like? And people when they are depressed sometimes forget about their appearance. Does that make them bad people inside? Not at all!

And there's no way that you should be judging other people like this.

Arguing with people that you think outer beauty => inner beauty is just ridiculous. Frankly, I don't even understand why you're asking this. It's so beside the point and so irrelevant to ANYTHING that actually matters regarding "exploring christianity". Although I have been getting the impression that you're looking at the possibility of converting to Christianity for reasons that a lot of people here would consider as the wrong reasons. It's nearly like you want to be a Christian for *Satan's* benefit rather than the *Lord*.

Please try and accept the Holy Spirit for the right reasons, and follow the advice of the Lord.

Well you're wrong.

And go preach to the choir. I was a bible thumper for nearly 20 years, so you're lecturing the wrong guy on "following the Lord." I know the bible better than you, went to bible school, served in ministry as a leader and almost became pastor at one time, so your arguing with the wrong person on this one.

 

[Heidiii]

Well you're wrong.

And go preach to the choir. I was a bible thumper for nearly 20 years, so you're lecturing the wrong guy on "following the Lord." I know the bible better than you, went to bible school, served in ministry as a leader and almost became pastor at one time, so your arguing with the wrong person on this one.

I apoligise for arguing with you.

Please forgive me Lord for being so brutal in my post to seekingagnostic32.

 

[someguy14]

All of Gods childrens hearts are beautiful.