Evolution is a RELIGION and not Science

[Blackwater Babe]

You do realize that most of the so called "transitional fossils" have been exposed as frauds. Go ahead and post them. I would be interested in seeing them. As far as I knew, they still had not found the "missing link".

List of transitional fossils - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
should be enough to get you started.

 

[mathetes123]

Isn't micro-evolution as contrary to genesis as macro-evolution? I can link you to several ewxamples of speciation, i,e. dog+dog=cat.

Micro-evolution is not contrary to genesis. The Bible speaks of created kinds. The issue is with the vehicle for the initial creation. Creationists and scripture says God created everything directly. Theistic evolutionists say God used mutations and selection (survival of the fittest) over millions of years as the process.

Theistic evolution cannot be reconciled with scripture.

 

[Blackwater Babe]

Micro-evolution is not contrary to genesis. The Bible speaks of created kinds. The issue is with the vehicle for the initial creation. Creationists and scripture says God created everything directly. Theistic evolutionists say God used mutations and selection (survival of the fittest) over millions of years as the process.

Theistic evolution cannot be reconciled with scripture.

Well, there's a list of transitionals for you, heres a list of observed speciation. Observed Instances of Speciation

 

[MrMoe]

I want to address you post more fully but since I am pressed for time right now so let me just say that if you find those two options disagreeable then please suggest a third that works. If biologists are not incompetent then there must be something to evolution since it has been considered the basic theory in biology for 200 years. The only other way I can see it being in the sciences for this long is a conspiracy theory. What do you think? Do you see a third option I am missing if evolution is incorrect?

you seem to be under the impression that time and majority consensus implies credibility. you realize people have believed in things that have turned out to be wrong for much longer than 200 years.


there's a very good joke that has a lot of truth in it:

if a frog turns into a man its called a fairytale.
if a frog turns into a man over millions of years its called evolution.

if you tell someone they evolved from primordial soup 100 years ago they would laugh at you.
even if you said 1000 years ago they would still find it hard to believe you.
but if you tell them they evolved over millions of years they probably would believe that.

it seems time is evolutions ultimate hero

and no I don't think its a conspiracy. just a small group of people with an agenda and a very loud voice screaming over anyone who doesn't agree with them.

 

[mathetes123]

you seem to be under the impression that time and majority consensus implies credibility. you realize people have believed in things that have turned out to be wrong for much longer than 200 years.


there's a very good joke that has a lot of truth in it:

if a frog turns into a man its called a fairytale.
if a frog turns into a man over millions of years its called evolution.

if you tell someone they evolved from primordial soup 100 years ago they would laugh at you.
even if you said 1000 years ago they would still find it hard to believe you.
but if you tell them they evolved over millions of years they probably would believe that.

it seems time is evolutions ultimate hero

and no I don't think its a conspiracy. just a small group of people with an agenda and a very loud voice screaming over anyone who doesn't agree with them.

Time eliminates the element of faith. People have no conception of time and can be led to believe just about anything can happen over time no matter how much the odds are against it.

 

[mathetes123]

There we go again... There are many, many examples of transitional fossils. Want one? Here, a reptile covered with feathers (aka a transition between a dinosaur and a bird):

Genetics reveals relationships among species, and that is strong evidence for evolution.

You can tell this is a reptile-bird from this imprint in a rock?

As for genetics revealing relationships among species, could it not also reveal a common creator?

 

[CabVet]

You can tell this is a reptile-bird from this imprint in a rock?

As for genetics revealing relationships among species, could it not also reveal a common creator?

Yes, this is an exceptionally well-preserved fossil, and yes, we can tell it has characteristics of both reptiles and birds. And no, relationships among species don't indicate a common creator, they indicate common descent, very different.

 

[mathetes123]

Of course evolution is called a religion by creationists, why? because creationists want it to be a religion and what creationists want becomes the truth for them.
Truth has nothing to do with creationism because creationism is all about belief, they believe things because they want them to be true not because they are in fact true, a belief in creationism is so ridiculous that they need to justify it in any way they can.
To be told that Genesis is true all of your young life by people you love must be believed no matter what otherwise everything you know and believe would be a sham, denial and self delusion become the norm to maintain the sanity.

My heart goes out to all of them.

Thank you for your heart felt concern for my welfare.

 

[Blackwater Babe]

So you're ignoring my two lists?

 

[CabVet]

So you're ignoring my two lists?

I have noticed that a lot of people here simply do not go to non-creationists websites. That's why I posted an image instead of a link

 

[MrMoe]

And no, relationships among species don't indicate a common creator, they indicate common descent, very different.

do you know this or do you think this? if you know this, how do you know this?

all you've said is this fossil has some reptile parts and some bird parts therefore this fossil must be the middle man between reptile and birds. that sounds more like wishful thinking.

here's a thought, what if this fossil isn't a transitional fossil at all?

 

[Blackwater Babe]

do you know this or do you think this? if you know this, how do you know this?

all you've said is this fossil has some reptile parts and some bird parts therefore this fossil must be the middle man between reptile and birds. that sounds more like wishful thinking.

here's a thought, what if this fossil isn't a transitional fossil at all?

Explain why God would create intermediate species that are now exxtinct?

 

[MrMoe]

Explain why God would create intermediate species that are now exxtinct?

your question makes no sense. your question has a built in assumption that evolution has occurred and that there are such things as intermediate species.

its like asking someone "why are elephants pink?"
well, elephants aren't pink. that question assumes they are pink, it has a built in assumption.

which is all the theory of evolution is anyway. an assumption based on another assumption.

 

[Blackwater Babe]

your question makes no sense. your question has a built in assumption that evolution has occurred and that there are such things as intermediate species.

its like asking someone "why are elephants pink?"
well, elephants aren't pink. that question assumes they are pink, it has a built in assumption.

which is all the theory of evolution is anyway. an assumption based on another assumption.

Um, but unlike pink elephants, we can see archaeopteryx... explain the existance of it and other allegedly transitional fossils according to Creationism?

 

[USincognito]

Micro-evolution is not contrary to genesis. The Bible speaks of created kinds.

If I were to give you a list of, say, 15 beings, could you tell me what kind they belong/belonged to, and why or why they were not related to the other beings on the list via common ancestry?

 

[USincognito]

there's a very good joke that has a lot of truth in it:

if a frog turns into a man its called a fairytale.
if a frog turns into a man over millions of years its called evolution.

There's absolutely no truth in it.

Do you know why?

 

[Psudopod]

do you know this or do you think this? if you know this, how do you know this?

all you've said is this fossil has some reptile parts and some bird parts therefore this fossil must be the middle man between reptile and birds. that sounds more like wishful thinking.

here's a thought, what if this fossil isn't a transitional fossil at all?

So why do we only find these creatures in the historical and geological location between the two creatures it appears to be tranistional. Why would a creature sharing the morphology of reptiles and birds only exist before modern birds, but after reptiles and in the same habitat that both of them lived in?

 

[Blackwater Babe]

So why do we only find these creatures in the historical and geological location between the two creatures it appears to be tranistional. Why would a creature sharing the morphology of reptiles and birds only exist before modern birds, but after reptiles and in the same habitat that both of them lived in?

*raises hand* they're about to tell you scientific dating is wrong too?

 

[Psudopod]

*raises hand* they're about to tell you scientific dating is wrong too?

No doubt, and geography too. Obviously everything else must be wrong, even the bits that independently verify each other.

 

[AV1611VET]

it seems time is evolutions ultimate hero

Indeed -- qv my four Biblical reasons against evolution please:

1. NOT ENOUGH TIME

• Using the Bible to calculate time, one concludes that the earth has gone around the sun roughly 6100 times. This is much too short a timespan for evolution to have occurred.

2. THERE IS NO ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT

• Genesis 1:31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

3. NO ANIMALS DIED PRIOR TO THE FALL

• Romans 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

4. JESUS BELIEVED IN CREATION - NOT EVOLUTION

• Mark 10:6 But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female.