Some Reasons I Don't Believe in Evolution

[sk8Joyful]

Do you realize that understanding how DNA works
could give you greater insight
both to how copy errors are made and how such errors could lead to change in the organism itself?

Assuming the above, would you be interested in learning?
The molecules in our bodies don't much care if they are "adding information",
they are just following along with the rules of chemistry.

It might interest you to know
that the molecules in our bodies don't much care, about the rules of chemistry, as currently understood. -
why?
They were by God Lovingly Designed & created to follow a Higher order; and
in fact most of the time this is exactly how they function...

(unless man in his arrogance interferes: so
we get the most weird diseases, dreamt up for $profit$).

Thank God many of us are intelligent enuf
to have figured that out; so we CAN "follow a Higher order".

 

[mpok1519]

Except for the Wolf. A pack of wolves will hamstring a adult moose to get to her calf. They say there is no other example in nature where animals kill without reason or purpose.

Wolves causing an injury to the protector of their primary target isn't without purpose; the injury, sure, can kill the adult, however.

 

[mpok1519]

My friend Colin would disagree:

there can be only one.

which is weird because there we so many

 

[mpok1519]

It is written, that man is appointed to die. Before the fall there was no death. how would one have evidence for a non-fallen state/dimension, when all that we have now is what is in a presently, fallen, decaying state? Where would this evidence come from? From what source? How does one produce evidence from an infinitely removed state than what is presently available?

Your claim is that the natural world has not played by the same rules throughout time. That reality was once a "non-fallen dimension"

So, do you want the fossil record, or, what? I really have no idea what you're trying to convey here.

Please elaborate.

 

[AV1611VET]

They are going to bring up Apes, chimps, & related monkey-critters, and because we share DNA with those animals too,
then obviously us humans ARE apes.

That's because they think in terms of common ancestor, not common designer.

Only they call theirs "science" and ours "religion".

 

[mpok1519]

In my finite, limited, flawed state, how would i see "evidence" of what was perfect? Is that possible?

no, because our flawed state makes up subjective ideas like "perfection".

 

[mpok1519]

Yes, but they won't like you mentioning "bacteria & fruit flies",
as that's not what they are trying to Argue, as you well know.
They are going to bring up Apes, chimps, & related monkey-critters, and
because we share DNA with those animals too,
then
obviously us humans ARE apes.
Even as they can never prove, that 'stretch' of their imagination;
anymore than they can prove their theory of evolution.
That's why it will forever remain a "theory".

well, gene allele shift frequencies and variations, a fact, is a true event.

Thats the fact of evolution.

The theory seeks to explain why and how this happens.

 

[mpok1519]

You can argue, whatever you want, 'til the cows come home, but it won't make it so.

One strain of bacteria isn't the same species as any other. This is a fact.

Just because a BACTERIA is "transporting citrate across the cell membrane to the cell interior",
does NOT mean, in a 1000 years that bacteria is now displayed in a zoo as an ape; let alone as a human.

I honestly have no idea what you mean by this.

But that's ok; some people will argue anything!

Yes, but only a few even know how to make an argument, or even know what one is.

 

[sk8Joyful]

"higher"? What is "higher"? You show your ignorance.

Um, don't you think it's terrible Ignorant on your part,
to call another person "ignorant", when they may actually have more awareness than you currently, but
you are not even aware of this?

It's quite obviously happened

as we see fossils of all sorts of creatures that were here
and are not here today. Where did they all go?

Well, you can find your answer to this in the Bible ; IF you are competent in both Greek & Hebrew.

So apparently, whatever you thought was so obvious; had an entirely-different "causation".

This is simply a lie. It is not true. I personally know
you've had it explained to you over and over again and
yet you persist in trying to spread this.
As such you are now not ignorant nor misinformed. You are lying.

I'm not quite sure, about CF-rules; they change faster...
than you can bat an eyelash. BUT I thought I read somewhere,
at one time, that you CANT call someone a liar, because its
you know like throwing sand in someone's eye, while you've got MUD in your own.
So you might wanna to check the CF-rules, just in case.

You're gonna force your position into schools
whether anyone else likes it or not?

No... you're not.

okay, let's get this straight: Atheists, agnostics, sexual Perverters, etc.
have the (human court-mandated) right to FORCE your position
down (our precious children's throats): such monstrosities as
1. evolution,
2. abortion,
3. sex-'ed',
4. social-studies disguised as "history" complete with abolishing the Constitution,
5. new-math, etc, - such that Educational test-scores are hopelessly LOST.
______________________________________ BUT

we Christians, don't have the SAME right to Educate our children with:
1. Prayer in the schools,
2. multiple languages
3. Accelerated math
4. Scientific excellence
5. Constitutional history
6. Exemplary Community service, etc - where our children's Academic-scores are consistently in the upper 90's, such that our children graduate college, with Honors, while yet in their Teens.

According to you, we CANT do the above?;

but our children CAN become the next guinea-pig in your evolution machine??
And that you call INTELLIGENT??? evolution...
.

 

[SonOfTheWest]

okay, let's get this straight: Atheists, agnostics, sexual Perverters, etc.
have the (human court-mandated) right to FORCE your position
down (our precious children's throats): such monstrosities as
1. evolution,
2. abortion,
3. sex-'ed',
4. social-studies disguised as "history" complete with abolishing the Constitution,
5. new-math, etc, - such that Educational test-scores are hopelessly LOST.

1. Scientific facts are not forced on anyone.
2. Unless you live in China or the like, you are not forced to abort.
3. Utterly vague. Does not say if one is against sex ed in general(which is asinine) or against poor teaching.

 

[Huram Abi]

Um, don't you think it's terrible Ignorant on your part,
to call another person "ignorant", when they may actually have more awareness than you currently, but
you are not even aware of this?


Well, you can find your answer to this in the Bible ; IF you are competent in both Greek & Hebrew.

So apparently, whatever you thought was so obvious; had an entirely-different "causation".



I'm not quite sure, about CF-rules; they change faster...
than you can bat an eyelash. BUT I thought I read somewhere,
at one time, that you CANT call someone a liar, because its
you know like throwing sand in someone's eye, while you've got MUD in your own.
So you might wanna to check the CF-rules, just in case.



okay, let's get this straight: Atheists, agnostics, sexual Perverters, etc.
have the (human court-mandated) right to FORCE your position
down (our precious children's throats): such monstrosities as
1. evolution,
2. abortion,
3. sex-'ed',
4. social-studies disguised as "history" complete with abolishing the Constitution,
5. new-math, etc, - such that Educational test-scores are hopelessly LOST.
______________________________________ BUT

we Christians, don't have the SAME right to Educate our children with:
1. Prayer in the schools,
2. multiple languages
3. Accelerated math
4. Scientific excellence
5. Constitutional history
6. Exemplary Community service, etc - where our children's Academic-scores are consistently in the upper 90's, such that our children graduate college, with Honors, while yet in their Teens.

According to you, we CANT do the above?;

but our children CAN become the next guinea-pig in your evolution machine??
And that you call INTELLIGENT??? evolution...
.

You can educate or miseducate your child all you want. But, no, you cannot demand that the state not teach evolution. Nor can you insist that they force child labor (community service).

It is your job to prepare your child for a productive adult life. You certainly can and SHOULD take the lead in his or her development.

It's called "taking personal accountability."

If you are so concerned that you make a vulgar emotional appeal such as "abortion is going to be forced down your child's throat by sexual perverters," no one is stopping you from utilizing those 8 hours a day to do the very thing you expect the state to do.

Then when your child is pregnant at 17 and not even thinking about college, you'll know exactly who you should credit.

 

[AV1611VET]

Then when your child is pregnant at 17 and not even thinking about college, you'll know exactly who you should credit.

The baby's father?

 

[Huram Abi]

Point made.

I hope you understood my point as well.

 

[AV1611VET]

Point made.

I hope you understood my point as well.

Two things I'm against in your post:

1. Evolution should not be taught as science, it is religion.
2. Sex education should not be taught in public schools.

 

[Belk]

Are you serious? Of COURSE i'll pray and ask others to join in. What kind of paralysis is it?

Technically it is not paralysis since I still have limited functionality, it is "weakness". I have limited control of the left side of my body as a result of brain surgery.

 

[Split Rock]

okay, let's get this straight: Atheists, agnostics, sexual Perverters, etc.

You have a lot of nerve lumping atheisits and agnostics together with "sexual perverters" (whatever that is.. I'm assuming that the term is an attempt to say "perverts").

have the (human court-mandated) right to FORCE your position
down (our precious children's throats): such monstrosities as
1. evolution,

Evolution is not a "monstrosity." It is the central theory in modern biological sciences, whether you like it or not.

2. abortion,

Falsehood. Abortion is not forced on anyone in this country.

3. sex-'ed',

Yeah...And you guys wonder why the bible-states are the ones with the highest number of teen pregnancies.

4. social-studies disguised as "history" complete with abolishing the Constitution,

Another falsehood. I learned about the constitution when I was in school.

5. new-math, etc, - such that Educational test-scores are hopelessly LOST.

When I was in school, we leared what was called "new math." Its probably a different "new math" now. LOL.

______________________________________ BUT

we Christians, don't have the SAME right to Educate our children with:
1. Prayer in the schools,

Prayer is for your church and your home. Nevertheless, your kids are not prevented from praying in school. They just can't push their religion on others.

2. multiple languages

Huh? They can learn other languages in school. I learned spanish (though not very well). Are your kids' school suffering under budget cuts, perhaps?

3. Accelerated math

I learned calculus in high school.

4. Scientific excellence

Ha, ha. Coming from a creationist, that is rich!

5. Constitutional history

I learned that in school.

6. Exemplary Community service, etc - where our children's Academic-scores are consistently in the upper 90's, such that our children graduate college, with Honors, while yet in their Teens.

Don't know any school where that is prohibited or discouraged.

According to you, we CANT do the above?;

Mostly, the answer is yes, you can.

but our children CAN become the next guinea-pig in your evolution machine??
And that you call INTELLIGENT??? evolution...
.

What is a "evolution machine?" Is it like a time machine or something??

 

[Split Rock]

Two things I'm against in your post:

1. Evolution should not be taught as science, it is religion.

My friend, you are really starting to backslide badly. Is this a sign that you are actually coming around, perhaps? I have heard that creationists entrench their position just before it collapses on them... just remember... I am here for you buddy!

 

[Belk]

My friend Colin would disagree:

This is Conner.

 

[brinny]

Originally Posted by brinny
Are you serious? Of COURSE i'll pray and ask others to join in. What kind of paralysis is it?

Technically it is not paralysis since I still have limited functionality, it is "weakness". I have limited control of the left side of my body as a result of brain surgery.

Thank you for your response. I will most certainly pray for you and have others join in. You can respond here, or PM me. What is your first name?

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Two things I'm against in your post:

1. Evolution should not be taught as science, it is religion.
2. Sex education should not be taught in public schools.

Evolution=Revolution......Repent!

http://www.kingdombiblestudies.org/Revelation/rev1.htm

Reve 2:5 Be thou remembering then!, whence/which-place thou hast fallen and reform/repent/metanohson <3340> (5657) and the first works do!

Revelation 16:11 And they blaspheme the God of the heaven out of the miseries of them, and out of the sores of them.
And not they repent/reform/metenohsan <3340> (5656) out of the works of them.

Duran Duran New Religion - YouTube