Update on Fr. John Corapi

[isshinwhat]

Thats absolutely true. But as I said earlier... I'm think all things point to nobody's hands being clean in this mess.

I'm trying to work in *gag me with a spoon* here somewhere & having no luck.

Here's some inspiration.

 

[Chrystal-J]

the worst of all of this is Corapi leaving the priesthood. His sermons brought many to Christ. His section on the radio was always on when I went to work in my car and now because of this I cannot hear him preach anymore when I go to work in my car in the morning. The only other show I liked was "Life is worth Living", but while I love Fulton Sheen he speaks from an era that is different than today, whereas Corapi spoke about what was happening this moment.

Yes, that's how I felt. I used to listen to Corapi and now I wonder what was really going through his head and what his true agenda was. (To follow the church until it no longer suits you, then bail.)

This situation reminds me of Matthew 13:3-8
3 He told many stories in the form of parables, such as this one: “Listen! A farmer went out to plant some seeds. 4 As he scattered them across his field, some seeds fell on a footpath, and the birds came and ate them. 5 Other seeds fell on shallow soil with underlying rock. The seeds sprouted quickly because the soil was shallow. 6 But the plants soon wilted under the hot sun, and since they didn’t have deep roots, they died. 7 Other seeds fell among thorns that grew up and choked out the tender plants. 8 Still other seeds fell on fertile soil, and they produced a crop that was thirty, sixty, and even a hundred times as much as had been planted!

I feel like this explains how some people don't endure the pressure when things go wrong for them and quit instead of staying and continuing on in the face of difficulties.

 

[LinuxUser]

And the priests who minister to them make easy targets...

Yep. I think at this point only a few there are who will not abandon the truth

 

[Michie]

Here's some inspiration.

 

[isshinwhat]

Yes, that's how I felt. I used to listen to Corapi and now I wonder what was really going through his head and what his true agenda was. (To follow the church until it no longer suits you, then bail.)

This situation reminds me of Matthew 13:3-8
3 He told many stories in the form of parables, such as this one: “Listen! A farmer went out to plant some seeds. 4 As he scattered them across his field, some seeds fell on a footpath, and the birds came and ate them. 5 Other seeds fell on shallow soil with underlying rock. The seeds sprouted quickly because the soil was shallow. 6 But the plants soon wilted under the hot sun, and since they didn’t have deep roots, they died. 7 Other seeds fell among thorns that grew up and choked out the tender plants. 8 Still other seeds fell on fertile soil, and they produced a crop that was thirty, sixty, and even a hundred times as much as had been planted!

He may not be bailing. He is following the advice of Bishop Gracida and Father James Flanagan who founded the order he's a part of, so I am hopeful that it can all work out.

 

[Davidnic]

We know that prostitutes are sooo trustworthy, like in strauss khan case

As are those that solicit them.

And the priests who minister to them make easy targets...

And sometimes those who minister become those who solicit. And, for SOLT to claim directly that that was done here...there must be some evidence.

They say they wanted to dig deeper but the civil lawsuit prevented it but to make that direct accusation in yesterdays statement and say they have proof...

 

[Chrystal-J]

He may not be bailing. He is following the advice of Bishop Gracida and Father James Flanagan who founded the order he's a part of, so I am hopeful that it can all work out.

I'm pretty sure if he considers the church leaders: "delusional oxygen thieves—taking up the space and breathing the air that a real leader should occupy fill." You can be pretty sure he's not coming back.

 

[LinuxUser]

And sometimes those who minister become those who solicit. And, for SOLT to claim directly that that was done here...there must be some evidence.

They say they wanted to dig deeper but the civil lawsuit prevented it but to make that direct accusation in yesterdays statement and say they have proof...

Yeah taking advice from a SOLT and then they throw you under the bus. Great place

 

[LinuxUser]

I'm pretty sure if he considers the church leaders: "delusional oxygen thieves—taking up the space and breathing the air that a real leader should occupy fill." You can be pretty sure he's not coming back.

He never said that about all of them an to say he did, to even give the idea he did is wrong. The liberal ones are oxygen thieves

 

[Chrystal-J]

He never said that about all of them an to say he did, to even give the idea he did is wrong. The liberal ones are oxygen thieves

If he said that about any of them, he should never come back.

 

[Davidnic]

Yeah taking advice from a SOLT and then they throw you under the bus. Great place

Revealing that the investigation showed there were issues because he was going to his website and, according to his own order, misleading the faithful is not throwing anyone under the bus.

SOLT allowed him to have freedoms because it suited them and that was wrong, they fed a cult of personality and this is the result. Now everyone is scrambling. There is to much smoke for him to be some kind of saint in the furnace here. And the investigation showed some really disturbing things. I am sure it is only a matter of time before more come out. And many will still believe only in John Corapi.

 

[isshinwhat]

I'm pretty sure if he considers the church leaders: "delusional oxygen thieves—taking up the space and breathing the air that a real leader should occupy fill." You can be pretty sure he's not coming back.

I'm in the military and that is a common phrase. If what he is saying is true, that is a pretty valid statement... If he is playing poor souls who want to believe him, then may God have mercy on his soul.

 

[Davidnic]

And that is it really...so many need prayers in this

 

[isshinwhat]

And sometimes those who minister become those who solicit. And, for SOLT to claim directly that that was done here...there must be some evidence.

They say they wanted to dig deeper but the civil lawsuit prevented it but to make that direct accusation in yesterdays statement and say they have proof...

Don't you find that odd? After the investigation had stopped they stated that they, "...had not arrived at any conclusion as to the credibility of the allegations under investigation," and, "... that Fr. Corapi had not been determined guilty of any canonical or civil crimes. If the allegations had been found to be credible, the proper canonical due process would have been offered to Fr. Corapi." Now suddenly, even though they stated the evidence was not found to be credible, they let loose with it anyway. I agree with Michie, I don't know who to trust, the whole thing is sad and scandalous, and I pray for a holy resolution to this mess because the Lord works good from evil.

 

[LinuxUser]

Revealing that the investigation showed there were issues because he was going to his website and, according to his own order, misleading the faithful is not throwing anyone under the bus.

SOLT allowed him to have freedoms because it suited them and that was wrong, they fed a cult of personality and this is the result. Now everyone is scrambling. There is to much smoke for him to be some kind of saint in the furnace here. And the investigation showed some really disturbing things. I am sure it is only a matter of time before more come out. And many will still believe only in John Corapi.

a manufactured investigation

 

[WarriorAngel]

The investigation may not be able to pry the statements out of folks, but the vow of poverty thing - and his accrued wealth - well, thats not kosher.

I feel badly for everyone involved and mostly for those who believed in him and trusted him and who may struggle with the fact he is also a sinner.
I hope and pray the Lord gives them strength to see - tho a sinner - he was good at teaching and teaching the truth as opposed to how he himself lived.
May they - the sheep - not lose hope and fall thru his failings.

I am disheartened - not only because of his lifestyle choices - including the wealth he amassed which should all be public knowledge by records, but for the fear i have of the repercussions this may cause on all souls who see the scandal and involved in the scandal.

Lord have Mercy.
Sincerely - have mercy on all.

 

[LinuxUser]

Don't you find that odd? After the investigation had stopped they stated that they, "...had not arrived at any conclusion as to the credibility of the allegations under investigation," and, "... that Fr. Corapi had not been determined guilty of any canonical or civil crimes. If the allegations had been found to be credible, the proper canonical due process would have been offered to Fr. Corapi." Now suddenly, even though they stated the evidence was not found to be credible, they let loose with it anyway. I agree with Michie, I don't know who to trust, the whole thing is sad and scandalous, and I pray for a holy resolution to this mess because the Lord works good from evil.

I would say SOLT is most definitely not credible and no doubt they has pressure from some evil source to throw him under the bus after they defended him

 

[Chrystal-J]

I'm in the military and that is a common phrase. If what he is saying is true, that is a pretty valid statement... If he is playing poor souls who want to believe him, then may God have mercy on his soul.

But, shouldn't priests be held at a higher standards than the run of the mill person? There are a lot of things said by military personnel (and civilians) that I wouldn't want to hear a priest say.
In James 3:1 it says:
1 Dear brothers and sisters, not many of you should become teachers in the church, for we who teach will be judged more strictly.

I agree if he's playing people, then he will have that issue between himself and God. I'm just having a hard time believing anything he says now that he's contradicted himself. Before this problem, he always said "Turn to the Rosary", after this issue--he hired a lawyer to sue his accuser, told us to consider church leaders "oxygen thieves", wasn't willing let Cannon Law work through the problem and never talks about the rosary anymore.

 

[LinuxUser]

But, shouldn't priests be held at a higher standards than the run of the mill person? There are a lot of things said by military personnel (and civilians) that I wouldn't want to hear a priest say.
In James 3:1 it says:
1 Dear brothers and sisters, not many of you should become teachers in the church, for we who teach will be judged more strictly.

I agree if he's playing people, then he will have that issue between himself and God. I'm just having a hard time believing anything he says now that he's contradicted himself. Before this problem, he always said "Turn to the Rosary", after this issue--he hired a lawyer to sue his accuser, told us to consider church leaders "oxygen thieves", wasn't willing let Cannon Law work through the problem and never talks about the rosary anymore.

You are missing a lot of things in your assessment. Those things you are so fast to accuse him of he did not do in a vacuum by himself, he had advice from a Bishop, the head of SOLT and canon and regular lawyers

 

[isshinwhat]

But, shouldn't priests be held at a higher standards than the run of the mill person? There are a lot of things said by military personnel (and civilians) that I wouldn't want to hear a priest say.
In James 3:1 it says:
1 Dear brothers and sisters, not many of you should become teachers in the church, for we who teach will be judged more strictly.

I agree if he's playing people, then he will have that issue between himself and God. I'm just having a hard time believing anything he says now that he's contradicted himself. Before this problem, he always said "Turn to the Rosary", after this issue--he hired a lawyer to sue his accuser, told us to consider church leaders "oxygen thieves", wasn't willing let Cannon Law work through the problem and never talks about the rosary anymore.

The oxygen thieves thing is not new, he's said that for years. See 2:57.

YouTube - ‪Fr. Corapi and Corruption in the Church‬‏

And again, as far as the civil suit and it's effect on Canon Law, he's following the advice of two very holy men...