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Only by leaving islam is there hope.

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The first paragraph is about expelling people.

If there's something about forced conversions, can you highlight it?

Also, what's this got to do with the OP?

It looks a lot like another thread where people have to turn this into something against Christianity.
 
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There's no hope at all for us non-Muslims??!?!?!?
WWWWAAAAAHHH!



I'm over it.

Why do you think people enter threads to say that they're not interested in discussing the thread?

Why do you think people are afraid to discuss Islam on it's own merits?

One of my proofs of Chrisitanity is the lengths people go to turn these threads into attacks on Christianity. Something must be driving them to do so.
 
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Why do you think people enter threads to say that they're not interested in discussing the thread?

Hardly a discussion. This was a "your religions sucks. You should leave it" thread. The big crossed out mosque as the avatar is a good indication that there is no real interest in discussion, let alone picking that particular handle. It's trollish behavior more than anything.

Why do you think people are afraid to discuss Islam on it's own merits?

Discussion is good. Hostile and hypocritical attacks from people who are protected from the same criticism not so much welcome. If people want to bring up controversial aspects of religion, it must be done with tact if they expect any discussion, and even then, they must be willing to show an interest in actually learning.
 
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The first paragraph is about expelling people.

If there's something about forced conversions, can you highlight it?

Read the section called "The Decree".

Also, what's this got to do with the OP?

Not much, you asked for the information. The OP was essentially telling Muslims to convert or never have a normal life again - sounds a lot like blackmail to me. It also wasn't a thread with any worthwhile discussion point, so I made a half-joke about inquisitions. Then the thread went off on a topic that can actually be talked about, and you dragged it back.

It looks a lot like another thread where people have to turn this into something against Christianity.

When Christians start attacking other people, they should be prepared for backlash. Hypocrisy is generally not admired.
 
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Hardly a discussion. This was a "your religions sucks. You should leave it" thread. The big crossed out mosque as the avatar is a good indication that there is no real interest in discussion, let alone picking that particular handle. It's trollish behavior more than anything.
That excludes the possibility that the religion does indeed suck

You're welcome to suggest why you think it doesn't.
 
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Read the section called "The Decree".
Okay, thanks

Not much, you asked for the information.
Really! You're the one who introduced the 'information' here
When Christians start attacking other people, they should be prepared for backlash. Hypocrisy is generally not admired.

Thanks for the tu quoque. So in order for Christians to discuss another religion they must first prove Christianity!

Illogic that confirms me my opinion of the source of the confusion.
 
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Really! You're the one who introduced the 'information' here

Sorry, it wasn't supposed to be that serious.

Thanks for the tu quoque. So in order for Christians to discuss another religion they must first prove Christianity!

Not at all, and you know that's not what I said. The OP is basically just a declaration that Islam is hopeless. The implication of such a statement is that the position of the OP is better than Islam (and, while the request to convert isn't explicitly there, it's obviously coming). In a thread where there is a valid discussion point, I'd agree with you, but in a poor attempt at conversion (or an attack, not sure which), the OP comes under scrutiny. The OP is Christian. This is a thread about religion. The rest logically follows on from there.

Like I said before, though, my original post was not particularly serious, so you don't have to worry.
 
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So no one wants to discuss the merits of Islam. Oh well.

Hasn't it been discussed to death in the dozens of other threads yet? Surely people must be getting bored by now, considering there aren't that many of you who are involved in these discussions.
 
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Hasn't it been discussed to death in the dozens of other threads yet? Surely people must be getting bored by now, considering there aren't that many of you who are involved in these discussions.

I got you want to talk about anything BUT Islam several pages ago.
 
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I got you want to talk about anything BUT Islam several pages ago.

I have absolutely no idea what you're saying here. Islam is not a topic that leads on to discussion I find interesting on this forum, and I'm certainly not educated enough to hold up a side of a debate. I just wanted to mention the Inquisition. No, just in case there are people who want to discuss the merits of Islam in this thread, I suggest we drop this so you can start such a discussion.
 
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Hardly a discussion. This was a "your religions sucks. You should leave it" thread. The big crossed out mosque as the avatar is a good indication that there is no real interest in discussion, let alone picking that particular handle. It's trollish behavior more than anything.

QUACK.. QUACK
Discussion is good. Hostile and hypocritical attacks from people who are protected from the same criticism not so much welcome. If people want to bring up controversial aspects of religion, it must be done with tact if they expect any discussion, and even then, they must be willing to show an interest in actually learning.

QUACK, QUACK, QUACK!
 
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Now this is getting too weird

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Don't take it wrong... but you know as I do that muslims take us for a ride on every discussion. Awitch might be a muslim in disguise. Should we take his avatar seriously any more seriously than he took mine?
 
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That excludes the possibility that the religion does indeed suck

You're welcome to suggest why you think it doesn't.

There are plenty of Muslim who have picked a sucky interpretation.
But this subforum is not the place to start topics about how other religions suck.
 
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