Ask a physicist anything. (5)

[1611AV]

That's the spirit! Even if you end up not agreeing with what you read, hopefully you'll be a little wiser for it, anyway.

QM is one of those things that says seems to throw "common sense" out of the window. What little I know is very interesting.

Yeah, Im not against seeking things out. It sounds interesting.

Trite, but, alas, not true. First, there's no evidence that something cannot come from nothing - there is no experiment, no concrete data that even suggest genesis ex nihilo cannot occur. Moreover, there is both theoretic and empirical reasons to believe that things do indeed come into existence ex nihilo.

It has to be said that the primary opponents of this are philosophers (there are philosophers against everything ), and those theists attempting to shoehorn a Creator into being. They simply cannot accept that "something can't come from nothing" is wrong, since that invalidates their whole argument - that God must exist. To them, something can't come from nothing, so there has to be a God from whence everything came. Despite rather glaring theological and philosophical complications in this reasoning, its foundational premise is at best unfounded, and at worst at odds with established science - that some things do indeed come from nothing, without prior cause.

The much-loved intuitions of causality (every event has a cause) and simultaneity (two events are separated by a fixed and unalterable length time) have also taken a beating by science, but that's a topic for another day. Or today. I'm easy

Well, I think you know me well enough in the short time we have spoken that I believe God created all things out of nothing. So I am not attempting to slip that in a sly way. I just want to know what science answer to that question is and you opinions as well as it is a fascinating thought for a Christian or non Christian alike.

Like sandwiches said, QM is not friendly to common-sense. Reality is what it is, regardless of those truths are comfortable or even comprehensible.

Yes, it definitely goes against generalized common sense.

 

[Wiccan_Child]

An explosion is not a "canceling out" of energy, is it? When matter and antimatter meet, does the energy inherent in both disperse, or does it become nothing?

They convert to energy, perhaps imparting kinetic energy to other particles. But the matter and antimatter itself ceases to exist. The 'something' has become 'nothing'.

Nature of a Cone

I'm not sure I follow

You can't get something without the mechanics existing. The mechanics are something.

Are they? Can you show me an atom of 'Newton's First'?

It should be by now, you guys need to work harder. Quit slacking off.

Haven't you seen the LHC? It's a giant cleaving machine baby!

 

[Wiccan_Child]

Yeah, Im not against seeking things out. It sounds interesting.

Well, I think you know me well enough in the short time we have spoken that I believe God created all things out of nothing. So I am not attempting to slip that in a sly way. I just want to know what science answer to that question is and you opinions as well as it is a fascinating thought for a Christian or non Christian alike.

Yes, it definitely goes against generalized common sense.

It's definitely interesting. Who knows, maybe you'll end up developing your own ideas on how God spoke things out of nothing.

 

[Naraoia]

It's definitely interesting. Who knows, maybe you'll end up developing your own ideas on how God spoke things out of nothing.

"Let there be... *tosses coin* ... light!"

 

[Wiccan_Child]

"Let there be... *tosses coin* ... light!"

God does not play dice, even a d2!

 

[Wiccan_Child]

Right, my little physicists, explain this!

YouTube - Red-hot ice cube by induction heating

I expect a 2000 word essay on my desk in the morning!

 

[pgp_protector]

Great, now I want to build one of them ..

Builds in into a box, ask the littleone to put their coins in the box to see a cool trick

 

[corvus_corax]

Have you ever seen the Young's double slit experiment in real life (as Young supposedly did it with sunlight)?

I have been looking for people who have seen this done IRL and can reproduce it, and have found nothing so far.


Help me WC, you're my only hope (sorry, listening to my son playing SW BF II behind me)

 

[mzungu]

Yeah, Im not against seeking things out. It sounds interesting.



Well, I think you know me well enough in the short time we have spoken that I believe God created all things out of nothing. So I am not attempting to slip that in a sly way. I just want to know what science answer to that question is and you opinions as well as it is a fascinating thought for a Christian or non Christian alike.



Yes, it definitely goes against generalized common sense.

Since you believe your Bible has all the answers then why do you insist on asking Science to answer your questions?

Reading all the posts I get the impression than some here have been ported over from the middle ages. They ask questions that betray their total lack of any scientific knowledge (unacceptable in this day and age); Believing in a flat earth or geocentric system, etc.

 

[Nabobalis]

Right, my little physicists, explain this!

YouTube - Red-hot ice cube by induction heating

I expect a 2000 word essay on my desk in the morning!

Ah I don't know.

 

[TheReasoner]

God does not play dice, even a d2!

Sorry. He does. There's some PHOTOGRAPHIC evidence for you!

 

[Steffenfield]

The video that you posted Wiccan completely amazes me and I'm so dumbfounded on what to even say.

Can you explain this in such a way that a retarded gorilla like myself can understand?

Please and thank you.

 

[TheReasoner]

Right, my little physicists, explain this!

YouTube - Red-hot ice cube by induction heating

I expect a 2000 word essay on my desk in the morning!

In the words of Terry Pratchett:
'Cause of Quantum!

 

[mzungu]

Right, my little physicists, explain this!

YouTube - Red-hot ice cube by induction heating

I expect a 2000 word essay on my desk in the morning!

Hmm! It is not the ice that is glowing but the hidden metallic object somewhere in the ice. This experiment just proves that inductive heating does not heat through heat transfer and that is why the ice cube is not melting but the metal object inside the ice cube has reached white hot temperatures.

Now where's my lolly then eh?

 

[Chesterton]

They convert to energy, perhaps imparting kinetic energy to other particles. But the matter and antimatter itself ceases to exist. The 'something' has become 'nothing'.

How is that different from saying a stick of dynamite has ceased to exist after it's exploded?

I'm not sure I follow

Well you were talking about atoms and splitting things in two, and someone had recently mentioned Democritus (or maybe that was another thread). Thought you might comment on that cone problem for the fun of it.

Are they? Can you show me an atom of 'Newton's First'?

No I can't, but if the mechanics don't exist then QM physicists are actually just studying their own minds, no?

 

[Nabobalis]

Hmm! It is not the ice that is glowing but the hidden metallic object somewhere in the ice. This experiment just proves that inductive heating does not heat through heat transfer and that is why the ice cube is not melting but the metal object inside the ice cube has reached white hot temperatures.

Now where's my lolly then eh?

But won't the ice start to melt on the inside once that metallic object gets white hot?

 

[1611AV]

Since you believe your Bible has all the answers then why do you insist on asking Science to answer your questions?

Reading all the posts I get the impression than some here have been ported over from the middle ages. They ask questions that betray their total lack of any scientific knowledge (unacceptable in this day and age); Believing in a flat earth or geocentric system, etc.

I like to hear what others have to say on certain things. Im not against science, I took antibiotics (penicillin) for a sore throat a few weeks ago, it worked great! I thank science for that. But, I thank God first, for mold.

Would you rather I not ask questions here?

 

[mzungu]

But won't the ice start to melt on the inside once that metallic object gets white hot?

At some point in the video you will hear the ice crack and some steam being released at the bottom. Also the ice acts as a heat exchanger and thus turns the steam into water before most of it is released to the atmosphere!

 

[mzungu]

I like to hear what others have to say on certain things. Im not against science, I took antibiotics (penicillin) for a sore throat a few weeks ago, it worked great! I thank science for that. But, I thank God first, for mold.

Would you rather I not ask questions here?

By all means do ask questions! But when you have dismissed science by dismissing Evolution, Biology, Chemistry, Geology, Astronomy, Medicine, Physics, etc by claiming that only the Bible (genesis) is true and science is wrong about how life was created and the age of the cosmos then I suspect your questions are not in earnest.

You enjoy the fruits of science while you dismiss it altogether. You cannot deny Evolution without denying Biology, Medicine, Chemistry, Physics etc.

Had you the erudition to see and understand the interconnectivity between all the sciences, you would not be so willing to dismiss one and accept the other.

 

[TheReasoner]

I like to hear what others have to say on certain things. Im not against science, I took antibiotics (penicillin) for a sore throat a few weeks ago, it worked great! I thank science for that. But, I thank God first, for mold.

Would you rather I not ask questions here?

You took penicillin for a sore throat? :o

AWESOME! /irony