No different theories here, maybe on miner issues but not on the two main points:
1. Repentance from all sin.
2. Saving faith in Jesus by His loving grace.
This doesn't seem to describe those prodigal sons who have had to repent after going on a journey, which I thought was the topic we had landed on. Thanks for clarifying that
How do you know though if someone is a prodigal or if they are resting in false assurance in cheap grace while they go and live like the devil? That was my point. I don't think God plays games with sin, yes He will forgive us if we come to Him but not if we refuse to submit to His rule in our lives. Any sin we try to hold on to and cherish in our hearts shows that we have rejected Him as Lord of our lives.
Not saying that we will not mess up and sin, this is going to happen, but when we (true Christians) do we repent afresh and don't want to do it again, but if you say you are saved but hold to a sin that you will not give up and have no desire to, I doubt your security. That was what I was saying.
What I have just said is based on this scripture: "Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God." (1 John 3:9)
You see, if we have been truly born of God we will not sin (continually without repenting) actually we cannot sin because we have the Holy Spirit (seed), if we do not have the Holy Spirit we do not have the safe guard in our hearts to keep us from living in sin.
I don't really want to get into a "once saved, always saved" debate here (although that's where its going) but I will just say that although I asked the Lord into my heart when I was 11, I believe I was not saved until about two years ago when i repented of the sin in my life.
The Lord granted me that in His mercy, I could not and would not do it on my own (repent). So I know personally that repentance and faith go hand in hand, I'm not saying that while I was in the far country God was not looking out for me and hoping I would return but I am saying that if I had died in that state I would have been lost.
I do believe this, God basically told me one day when I was coming off of some drugs; "no more games with sin, either you repent or I will let you go." I listened! I repented because the Lord scared me with a godly fear to wake me up out of that state. I realized that I had held on to sin my whole life and I had to let it go so He could be Lord and not self and sin.
I believe I was truly saved then, not when I said a prayer at 11.