So are they demons? I don't know much but I am scared. This will encourage me to read my bible.
So are they demons? I don't know much but I am scared. This will encourage me to read my bible.
Oh hey please don't feel that way as not one of us here is without faultHis grace is plenty sufficient for every time we fail and it is up to us to tune the devil out and believe it ourselves. Ok I need to work on that last one myself. Lol.I will pray. Truthfully, I don't think God will give me a vision or dream, I don't am not close enough to him.
UFO's 'per se' are not demons, neither are those that 'pilot' them likely to be either, however what is behind them is demonic and part of a grand deception by the enemy.[/quote]
Hi
no disrespect ... I'm just curious how you arrived at this understanding? I'm a never-ending lover of knowing Truth ... it would be of great interest to me to know where this can be found in scripture ... thank you in advance for any help you can give me here ...
UFO's 'per se' are not demons, neither are those that 'pilot' them likely to be either, however what is behind them is demonic and part of a grand deception by the enemy.[/quote]
Hi
no disrespect ... I'm just curious how you arrived at this understanding? I'm a never-ending lover of knowing Truth ... it would be of great interest to me to know where this can be found in scripture ... thank you in advance for any help you can give me here ...
Hi lilmiss
No disrespect taken, I understand that this is a controversial subject and we may need to agree to disagree, but I refer back to my original scripture in
Ephesians 6
The Armor of God
10Finally, be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power. 11Put on the full armor of God so that you can take your stand against the devil's schemes. 12For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. 13Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand. 14Stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist, with the breastplate of righteousness in place, 15and with your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace. 16In addition to all this, take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one. 17Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God. 18And pray in the Spirit on all occasions with all kinds of prayers and requests. With this in mind, be alert and always keep on praying for all the saints.
Ok, this does not explicitly mention anything about UFO's and aliens, however 'spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms' may be one interpretation of them. It also speaks of putting on the full armour for when the day of evil comes.
As I described above UFOs/Aliens are the 'evil of our day' the focus has shifted down the centuries but the same 'prinicpalities and powers' (Satan and his minions) are behind them as they have been right from the serpent in Genesis.
Ok, I realise and accept that this might be a 'giant leap' for those who cling vehemently to the traditional interpretation and message of this scripture about clothing ourselves in the armour of God daily (which I am not decrying at all).
But what if there's more to it than that, isn't all scripture open to the interpretation of the day when placed into context? It is still living and active for the world we inhabit now, a world in which UFOlogy is pervasive within society!
'Stand firm' then knowing that when these things present themselves they are the 'devil's schemes' and above all be alert (watch out for the evils of the day) and pray for all the saints, that they not be fooled when the time comes.
Hope this helps?
Hi lilmiss
No disrespect taken, I understand that this is a controversial subject and we may need to agree to disagree, but I refer back to my original scripture in
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Ephesians 6
The Armor of God
10Finally, be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power. 11Put on the full armor of God so that you can take your stand against the devil's schemes. 12For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. 13Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand. 14Stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist, with the breastplate of righteousness in place, 15and with your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace. 16In addition to all this, take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one. 17Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God. 18And pray in the Spirit on all occasions with all kinds of prayers and requests. With this in mind, be alert and always keep on praying for all the saints.
I agree ... great verses to add to the list
Ok, this does not explicitly mention anything about UFO's and aliens, however 'spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms' may be one interpretation of them. It also speaks of putting on the full armour for when the day of evil comes.
no ... you're right ... it doesn't speak about ufo's ... and yes, it does say to do that ... I understand it to go a step further ... we should always have our armor on ... every day that passes until Jesus returns will have some evil moving around in it ... it's the ways of the world ... if we always wear our armor ... or endeavor to ... we won't be caught unaware ...
As I described above UFOs/Aliens are the 'evil of our day' the focus has shifted down the centuries but the same 'prinicpalities and powers' (Satan and his minions) are behind them as they have been right from the serpent in Genesis.
that brings me back to what I was hoping to see ... scriptures to back that up ... I can't accept that by the principles of the Word until I can back it up with scriptures ... please know, I'm not saying you can't ... I'm always open to learn or I wouldn't be asking ... I just have to see them to know where to see it for myself ... Jesus says follow no one but Him ... I hope that makes sense without offending ... also if I repeat what you say and it turns out it's not true ... well, then I'm guilty to ... so you see where I'm at? and if you don't want to do that I'm cool with that to ... I not here to cause trouble, but to learn ...
Ok, I realise and accept that this might be a 'giant leap' for those who cling vehemently to the traditional interpretation and message of this scripture about clothing ourselves in the armour of God daily (which I am not decrying at all).
I don't see any leap ... I'd agree ... that we covered that ground when I gave my view here of my understanding , which as it turns out is what's called traditional ... I didn't know that
But what if there's more to it than that, isn't all scripture open to the interpretation of the day when placed into context? It is still living and active for the world we inhabit now, a world in which UFOlogy is pervasive within society!
I'm having a hard time making the step from the bible being open to interpretation and a world of UFOlogy, as you put it without scriptures to begin with ...
'Stand firm' then knowing that when these things present themselves they are the 'devil's schemes' and above all be alert (watch out for the evils of the day) and pray for all the saints, that they not be fooled when the time comes.
I'd say that's what I'm doing here ... the Bible says not to accept if it doesn't line up with the Word ... how am I to do that without a starting point? again, please take no offense ... it's only because the Lord has so firmly given me the importance of listening to Him and Him only do I ask? As I said ... I'm here to learn and hopefullly serve the interest of the Lord ... my focus here has little to do with things as much as it has to do with these scriptures.
Joel 2:28-32
the outpouring of God's Spirit
And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:
And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit.
And I will show wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, be fore the great and terrible day of the Lord come.
And it shall come to pass, that whosever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the Lord hath said, and in the remnant whom the Lord shall call.
I believe that in these coming days forums such as this will prove to be crucial in working for the Lord. I'm here because I feel led to be here, but am very, very aware of the utmost importance of keeping my eyes on the Lord as I learn.
Hope this helps?
yes, it did ... thank you ... I appreciate you posting me back ... it's good to know where we're at ...
So are they demons? I don't know much but I am scared. This will encourage me to read my bible.
Hello
No they are not demons. UFO's are aircraft of sorts. They are inanimate objects. Obviously if there are UFO's there is someone behind the drivers seat. Please don't be so quick to determine they are demons. With the limited information available to the public, I don't believe there is a general population person who can say yes or no they are demons. And some believe it can be either ... or.
First ... demons are nothing but spirits not of the Lord ... so there is absolutely nothing to fear. spirits not of the Lord should nopt be given any credit for anything. You and God make a majority. He says He will never leave you, nor forsake you. And so it is ... He won't. We should always remember the Lord is not angry with His ... He's angry at the filth of the world and those who perpetrate it. Anything that comes our way will be something we can handle ... He will make sure of that ... you really need not worry. Your time would be well spent learning the foundations of the Lord. As you fill your soul with things of the Lord the things not of the Lord will grow to fear you ... nice twist, eh? and there are just so many really fun things to learn in the Bible.
Productive thoughts are something I'm dealing with right now. We must learn to keep our eye on Him ... not the distractions of the world. Grow in your knowledge of the Lord ... learn His promises ... know what He would say to you and what He wouldn't ... study to be strong in Christ ... pray ... ask Him for understanding and guidance. As you do these things you will come to a place that you can understand fear is a worthless, debilitaing spirit not of the Lord. The Lord needs people who can stand for Truth right now more than ever in history ... if we're to seek Truth, we find it in the Word because Jesus is the Living Word and His name is Truth ... John 1:14,17; John 8:32; John 14:6; 2 John 1
I pray my post does, indeed, encourage you to read more. The answers to your questions on UFO's is there boldy ... He says seek and ye shall find ... that means ask Him for the answers and the understandings to go with them and the wisdom to know what to do with the knowledge. If you want the Truth on UFO's then you seriously need to find the answer in the Bible. It IS there. And google is a wonderful thing ... as long as you stick to a few simple rules ... like don't take anything as Truth that you see until you find it in the Bible and read for yourself and ask the Lord about it. biblegateway.com is a wonderful tool as well
So, there are some thoughts to growing in Christ ... to a place of boldness in Christ. It simply must be Him you seek. You will not find the true answer to UFO's from man. Man is extremely limited in their understandings and knowledge ... the Father is the One who knows.
I see in a later post you say you don't think He will give you dreams because you aren't close enough to Him. I so lovingly want to say to you ... it doesn't make one bit of difference who you are, how rich you are, what race you are, what anything ... even if you don't have much knowledge of Him ... He meets you where you are. Period. He doesn't wait for any thing or any man. If He wants to give you a dream He can do it, regardless of your closeness. He is not a little god. He is the God of gods. He can not and will not be fenced in and boxed in by man's definitions of what He can and can't do.
I'm so proud of you for coming here and saying what was on your heart. I say all these things to encourage you in Christ. You will never regret seeking Him. It is a glorious thing to have a personal relationship with the Lord.
may the one true God of all things good,
knower of hearts,
lover of your soul,
set you and keep you on the Way
lilmiss
Yes, they are demons! They are liars and deceivers, and they are dangerous. Maybe you haven't done your homework on this subject, but I have sister.
They are not our brothers and sisters like the vatican has recently come out and said, they are not here to lead us to peace and harmony, they are not our friends.
You should know this so you can be aware.
As I said earlier, I'm not here but to learn ... the Lord will be the one that teaches me ... don't be so quick to think I'm ignorant on this subject. As to what I should be aware of ... the Lord leads, guides, and directs me in that ... hence, I'm not worried. I stand by my words. If you have scriptures to show that back up what you say, I'd definitely be interested ... other than that, we'll just have to agree to disagree. Debate is a non-issue for me. I don't. And as for what another denomination teaches or believes or whatever ... I leave that to them ... I point no fingers at any person, church, or denomination. Not my business.
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If you take almost every scripture describing demons and compare it to carefully researched info on aliens you will have no doubts I'm betting. My final clue was people saying these things smelled horrible and likened it to "burning rubber".
So what does burning rubber smell like was the immediate question that came to mind. Answer? Sulfer. What a suprise....
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My final clue was people saying these things smelled horrible and likened it to "burning rubber".
So what does burning rubber smell like was the immediate question that came to mind. Answer? Sulfer. What a suprise....