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Why I Don't Believe In Atheism's Creation Myth
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Here's the dictionary definition:
- 2. The state or fact of differing or of being in conflict. See synonyms at discord.
Galatians 5:20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
And we are not to take our variances before the general public:
1 Corinthians 6:1 ¶ Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints?
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It appears from your logic that the Jewish people have a different God too, since they do not believe that Jesus was The Son of God. Please correct me if this assumption is wrong.
It was my impression that Judaism, Christianity, and Islam all believe in the same monotheistic God. The three religions just went in separate directions at different points in time. These three religions are more closely related to each other than to Hinduism or Buddhism. Correct me if I am wrong.
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The Jews knew Who was being crucified.
John 11:47 Then gathered the chief priests and the Pharisees a council, and said, What do we? for this man doeth many miracles.
John 11:48 If we let him thus alone, all men will believe on him: and the Romans shall come and take away both our place and nation.
John 11:49 And one of them, named Caiaphas, being the high priest that same year, said unto them, Ye know nothing at all,
John 11:50 Nor consider that it is expedient for us, that one man should die for the people, and that the whole nation perish not.
John 11:51 And this spake he not of himself: but being high priest that year, he prophesied that Jesus should die for that nation;
John 11:52 And not for that nation only, but that also he should gather together in one the children of God that were scattered abroad.
John 11:53 Then from that day forth they took counsel together for to put him to death.
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Actually, it was God who separated from Judaism and went in one direction - Christianity.
Then Paul and Barnabas answered them (Jews) boldly: "We had to speak the word of God to you first. Since you reject it and do not consider yourselves worthy of eternal life, we now turn to the Gentiles." - Acts 13:46.
Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me." - John 14:6.
Islam was established by men, not by God.
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Mobiosity
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Not true. Sarah gave Hagar to Abraham to sleep with so Sarah could get the child God promised to her. God's intent wasn't that Sarah have Ishmael to raise, His intent was for her to get pregnant and bear Isaac. So the whole Abraham/Hagar/Ishmael incident is an example of man (or in this case woman) does what s/he thinks is right instead of waiting for God's best.
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American by birth; Southern by the grace of God.
I'm having trouble figuring out how to word this. Here goes: Judaism, Christianity and Islam all have the same "root God". Judaism acknowledged God and He announced that they are the Chosen People. Abraham's son Isaac continued to follow Judaism and his progeny did so as well. This is the blood line of Jesus. I assume that Ishmael also continued to follow Judaism as did his progeny until Mohamed.
Yahweh, Jesus and Holy Spirit are all considered by Christians to be God. One God with three presences. Jews and Mohammedans consider Christians to be poly-theistic as they see God as being one, alone. So while we consider ourselves to have a common source; Christians don't think Jews and Mohammedans worship the same God Christians because the Christian God is God the Father, Jesus and Holy Spirit. Unless you recognize that Jesus is God, you aren't worshiping the same God as Christians do. While the other two religions recognize that Jesus lived, they don't accept His divinity.
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That's funny. Many people say the same thing about your religion too.
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And do you not think that quoting from the Koran will show that Islam was established by God (Allah)?
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Mobiosity:
Cor, you could almost put the above in a text book under 'Proof that religion is man made'.
That anybody can read the above, let alone write it, and still believe in religion is quite staggering.
And after all that you guys can't see that the whole thing is made up by human beings?
Cor, you could almost put the above in a text book under 'Proof that religion is man made'.
That anybody can read the above, let alone write it, and still believe in religion is quite staggering.
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That's a fair point.
It does, however, leave god open to one's own interpretation, which I think is no bad thing. Much better to put your own spin on god than subscribe to any of the raving mental cases described in holy texts. For instance, when I'm in the mood to contemplate a supreme being, I imagine him as a koala bear, who spends his days perched half way up a eucalyptus tree, munching leaves and trying desperately to forget about that rash evening when, maddened by fermented eucalyptus juice, he got amorous with Katie koala bear and ended up with more than he bargained for. This version of god works very well for me, and explains a great deal more than standard versions. It allows me to think of the universe as the unintended consequence of a drunken night of passion, as indeed many of us are, and also explains god's distinctly ambiguous reaction to our sudden appearance a short while later as demonstrated by his strict non-interventionist policy: he regards us with a mixture of fear and appalled fascination and spends most of his time trying to ignore us. Works for me.
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