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sjdean
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I don't see no reason why not, and there are many people who will pull out passages from the Bible to prove one way or the other.
The biggest barrier I think to being gay in the church, is being in a gay relationship - after all, no sex outside of marriage and all that. It gets me a bit frustrated that the church doesn't want to perform gay marriage because you have to ask, what is so special about a heterosexual marriage? Nothing really, apart from having kids, which isn't a strict requirement?
At least the Mormons have the whole idea of spirit children.
The biggest barrier I think to being gay in the church, is being in a gay relationship - after all, no sex outside of marriage and all that. It gets me a bit frustrated that the church doesn't want to perform gay marriage because you have to ask, what is so special about a heterosexual marriage? Nothing really, apart from having kids, which isn't a strict requirement?
At least the Mormons have the whole idea of spirit children.
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Christian marriage is the uniting of a man and a woman under God; a husband and wife. This was God's purpose for man and woman to be with each other. It is also implied that married couples will have sex and bear fruit, but homosexuality is a sin against God.
I would say that gay people can be good Christians as long as they do not actually have sex with other people of their sex. They should pray to God to help become righteous, I have seen a story about a lesbian woman who was saved and eventually become straight. It is not impossible, nothing is with the Lord. Just as thieves, murderers, and deceivers can be changed by Christ, so can homosexuals.
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alan-kinsella
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But in my view, I am gay and im content to be gay. I couldnt be a christian if that means i cant actually be intimate with another man 
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But in my view, I am gay and im content to be gay. I couldnt be a christian if that means i cant actually be intimate with another man
Yes I understand, that is the difficult part for everyone when it comes to living by God's word. It is hard to give up our desires and temptations, you must decide for yourself whether you want to accept Christ and change your ways, or of you do not want to and move on with your life. If you are willing to make a commitment though, understand that God's word is good, he will never lead you astray nor will he let you suffer more than you can bear. If you obey Him you will have a blessed and prosperous life (that is right, heaven is not the only life to look forward too, God wants you to enjoy this one as well).
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sjdean
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I understand the sentiment, but to what purpose is it to bear fruit?
Bearing fruit explains why we need men and women. But why is there an importance to bear fruit? It must be more than multiply. If it was to multiply, then why do we allow people to "unite" who have no intention of having children?
Of course that works from the pre-supposition that there is something wrong with being gay/being in a gay relationship/having gay sex.
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sjdean
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But in my view, I am gay and im content to be gay. I couldnt be a christian if that means i cant actually be intimate with another man
For the past few years, I've been questioning my sexuality. But I think for me, it's been a bit of a learned behaviour and not natural. I know realy gay people who have known since birth.
It's a very difficult thing for someone who isn't gay to comprehend I think.
I think the conservative Christian point of view is that we let ourselves be led away from God by following our carnal desires and not showing more restraint.
On the other hand, I haven't seen any scripture which says a man cannot be in a committed and loving relationship.
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Everyone who has become a Christian has had to give up something that was a major part of his/her make-up or behavior.
It is called surrendering to God in order to break free from the slavery of sin. You are a slave to that homosexual lust. God can free you of that.
It is called surrendering to God in order to break free from the slavery of sin. You are a slave to that homosexual lust. God can free you of that.
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Well you see, many couples do not plan for children but are blessed with them anyways. It is not just to multiply, having children is a symbol of our relationship with God. Just as we are blessed to be loved by God, our children are blessed to be loved by us. I did not mean to suggest marriage exists solely for having children.
But we must realize that God made woman for man because he saw that it was not good for man to be alone. When he made woman for man, then he saw it was good. Please look at this passage in the Bible.
Corinthians 6:9-10
9Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, 10nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
By looking at this you can see that homosexuality, just like adultery and theft and every other sin, is a sin nonetheless. We must turn from these things if we are to enter God's kingdom.
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sjdean
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If you think it wrong and want to be with God, then you will change. It'll take time, but you will change. Im sure of it. One stage at a time. I've gone thorough huge changes myself.
It is about putting God first.
On the other hand, you may think being gay is OK and still want to be with God. There are many different churches and resources around for gay Christians. See if you find God there and spend some time reflecting and praying.
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tammynik
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That's one thing I could never understand. Those "churches" that say it's ok to be gay and be in gay relationships, marraiges, and even have gay sex. And they say it's ok for you to be christian and still do all these things and be proud of what you're doing.
I don't know about other people, but when I do something that is labelled a sin in the Bible, proud is the last feeling I have. So be really careful of these so-called christian churches, because the book they look to is definitely not the Bible since they are teaching direct contradictions.
I don't know about other people, but when I do something that is labelled a sin in the Bible, proud is the last feeling I have. So be really careful of these so-called christian churches, because the book they look to is definitely not the Bible since they are teaching direct contradictions.
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chilehed
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Those who suffer from same-sex attractions can certainly be Christians. That does not change the fact that such attractions are intrinsically disordered and that homosexual acts are gravely sinful.
It's no different that me having to deal with intense desires to engage in relations with a woman other than my wife. I'm still a Christian, but such desires are also disordered and to act on them is also gravely sinful. It is for me to cast myself on the grace of God so that I may remain chaste.
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alan-kinsella
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But the thing is that I dont tihink homosexuality is wrong, a dissorder, or that you suffer from it. I think it is perfectly normal and that it is ok to be homosexual
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Sketcher
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But in my view, I am gay and im content to be gay. I couldnt be a christian if that means i cant actually be intimate with another man
"If anyone would come after me, he must deny himself and take up his cross daily and follow me. For whoever wants to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for me will save it. What good is it for a man to gain the whole world, and yet lose or forfeit his very self?" - Luke 9:23-25
Your very self is your eternal soul. You could indulge in this sin and every other, and have those temporary enjoyments, but in the end, you lose it all, and you lose who God made you to be. God did not make you to be gay, or me to be short-tempered. But if we're going to follow God, we must cast these aside. We must submit our selfish desires to God's will, and there is no room for indulging in them if we are to be practicing Christians.
It's not about what we think in Christianity, but what God says. When we call him Lord, that means just what it sounds like - he's in charge, not us. We submit ourselves to his will, for his will is the only truly good and pure will, and he knows what we do not.
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Yes the thing is, you don't find God in the a church so traveling to this one or that is not where to look.You will only find Christ in the bible.
I think it was Jonathan Edwards who said "the cure for much malady of the soul is to let God be God" (i think that's right. Correction welcomed,however)It's God's will that is important not ours.
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08Victorious
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1 Corinthians 2:14 says, 14The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned.
Trust God, that he will show you the Truth about homosexuality, once you accept Christ, and the Holy Spirit dwells within you.
Once you accept Christ, and surrender it all to him, you will understand, because you will have the mind of Christ, as 1 Corinthians 2:16 says.
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