This Sunday: The Feast of Pentecost

[Deut 5:29]

I just wonder why Chirstian will celebrate this Jewish holiday?

They don't celebrate the other six feast of the L-RD Passover, First Fruits, or unleavened bread, nor Yom Teruah, Yom Kippur or Sukkot

So why do you celebrate the one in the middle? Shavuot?

First, God says these are My Feasts, not Jewish holidays, and are commanded to be kept forever.
Second, they are Holy Days not holidays.
Christians do observe all of God's Holy Days. These Days have great meaning for Christians now and in the future. They have great meaning for all mankind, but only the few, the called out ones, the little flock understand at this time.
After Christ returns all will be taught the wonderful meaning of these days and will learn to observe them. Note: Zech. 14:16-19.
God's annual Holy Days teach God's plan of salvation for all mankind. They are not some tired old outdated festivals that are no longer relevant.
Christendom has no clue.

 

[cyberlizard]

what day will pentecost fall on next year, and why?

Is the LXX able to shed any light on the day it falls?


Steve

 

[Deut 5:29]

what day will pentecost fall on next year, and why?

Is the LXX able to shed any light on the day it falls?


Steve

June 12th 2011, May 27th 2012, May 19th 2013.

You have to count seven Sabbaths after the weekly Sabbath that follows Passover and the day after that is Penecost.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

June 12th 2011, May 27th 2012, May 19th 2013.

You have to count seven Sabbaths after the weekly Sabbath that follows Passover and the day after that is Penecost.

Makes me wonder why Christmas day can't be done the same way

 

[mark46]

holydays are not holidays
hmmm
The word "holiday" comes from the two OE words for "holy" and "day"

First, God says these are My Feasts, not Jewish holidays, and are commanded to be kept forever.
Second, they are Holy Days not holidays.
Christians do observe all of God's Holy Days. These Days have great meaning for Christians now and in the future. They have great meaning for all mankind, but only the few, the called out ones, the little flock understand at this time.
After Christ returns all will be taught the wonderful meaning of these days and will learn to observe them. Note: Zech. 14:16-19.
God's annual Holy Days teach God's plan of salvation for all mankind. They are not some tired old outdated festivals that are no longer relevant.
Christendom has no clue.

 

[cyberlizard]

June 12th 2011, May 27th 2012, May 19th 2013.

You have to count seven Sabbaths after the weekly Sabbath that follows Passover and the day after that is Penecost.

how do you decide when you start counting....

do you start counting from the sabbath which is the weekly sabbath after passover, or do you start counting from the sabbath which is the first day of the feast of unleavened bread.

my understanding according to the LXX is that counting is started from the latter (which is in keeping with the Pharisaic practise as well).



Steve

 

[mark46]

The omer is counted from the 2nd day of passover (pesach).
Torah Tots - The Site for Jewish children - COUNTING THE OMER / SEFIRA / SEFIRAT HA'OMER

how do you decide when you start counting....

do you start counting from the sabbath which is the weekly sabbath after passover, or do you start counting from the sabbath which is the first day of the feast of unleavened bread.

my understanding according to the LXX is that counting is started from the latter (which is in keeping with the Pharisaic practise as well).



Steve

 

[Christos Anesti]

 

[cyberlizard]

The omer is counted from the 2nd day of passover (pesach).
Torah Tots - The Site for Jewish children - COUNTING THE OMER / SEFIRA / SEFIRAT HA'OMER

would that be the first day of unleavened bread? (After all, Passover is according to scripture only a one day festival).


Steve

p.s. are you simply regurgitating what other people have said, or did you come to this conclusion as a result of your own study?

 

[mark46]

yes
Feast of Passover - Feasts of Israel

would that be the first day of unleavened bread? (After all, Passover is according to scripture only a one day festival).


Steve

p.s. are you simply regurgitating what other people have said, or did you come to this conclusion as a result of your own study?

 

[Deut 5:29]

Makes me wonder why Christmas day can't be done the same way

Xmas is not biblical. There is no reason to figure when it isn't.

 

[Deut 5:29]

how do you decide when you start counting....Steve

You follow the biblical instructions.

 

[Polycarp1]

Xmas is not biblical. There is no reason to figure when it isn't.

Oh? Your Bible doesn't have Matthew chapters 1 and 2 and Luke chapter 2 in it? I happen to be sufficiently grateful that my Lord and Savior humbled Himself to be born as a human baby and live as one of us to consider it a very special day. I agree that reindeer, with or without red noses, the decoration of coniferous trees, etc., are not prescribed in Scripture. On the other hand, I'll bet very few of the people who rail against Christmas allegedly not being Biblical build shanties in their back yard and live in them for a couple of weeks in August, and I'll bet none of them observe the ninth day after Rosh Hoshanah by making a detailed confession of their sins.

Which has nothing to do with the Feast of the Coming of the Holy Spirit, the Birthday of the Church.

 

[Deut 5:29]

Oh? Your Bible doesn't have Matthew chapters 1 and 2 and Luke chapter 2 in it? I happen to be sufficiently grateful that my Lord and Savior humbled Himself to be born as a human baby and live as one of us to consider it a very special day. I agree that reindeer, with or without red noses, the decoration of coniferous trees, etc., are not prescribed in Scripture. On the other hand, I'll bet very few of the people who rail against Christmas allegedly not being Biblical build shanties in their back yard and live in them for a couple of weeks in August, and I'll bet none of them observe the ninth day after Rosh Hoshanah by making a detailed confession of their sins.

Which has nothing to do with the Feast of the Coming of the Holy Spirit, the Birthday of the Church.

That doesn't make any sense.

You must not be the real Polycarp, he would have understood.

 

[ebia]

That doesn't make any sense.

Um, yes it does.

That you have not understood it doesn't imply that it doesn't make any sense.

 

[Deut 5:29]

Um, yes it does.

That you have not understood it doesn't imply that it doesn't make any sense.

But you claiming it does, does.

 

[Polycarp1]

That doesn't make any sense.

You must not be the real Polycarp, he would have understood.

Okay, let me simplify it. "Xmas" is an abbreviation for Christmas (which is how it's pronounced, not "ex-mas") using the initial letter Chi of 'Christ', written in Greek with the same symbol as Roman-alphabet 'X'. Christmas is the annual commemoration of the incarnation and birth of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, as described in those three Bible chapters I referred you to (actually only Matthew 1:18ff and Luke 2; Matthew 2 is the visit of the Wise Men, commemorated twelve days later at Epiphany/Theophany.)

Therefore it's Biblical. My other comments had to do with the Jewish (hence Biblical) feasts of Tabernacles and Yom Kippur, not normally observed by Christians, and almost never in the prescribed ways for Jews.

 

[boswd]

Okay, let me simplify it. "Xmas" is an abbreviation for Christmas (which is how it's pronounced, not "ex-mas") using the initial letter Chi of 'Christ', written in Greek with the same symbol as Roman-alphabet 'X'. Christmas is the annual commemoration of the incarnation and birth of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, as described in those three Bible chapters I referred you to (actually only Matthew 1:18ff and Luke 2; Matthew 2 is the visit of the Wise Men, commemorated twelve days later at Epiphany/Theophany.)

Therefore it's Biblical. My other comments had to do with the Jewish (hence Biblical) feasts of Tabernacles and Yom Kippur, not normally observed by Christians, and almost never in the prescribed ways for Jews.

True story Except isn't Chi = X = Greek? Going back to my college days thinking of Fraternity's and Soroities.

*thinks back in a dreamlike state* Ahhh Good times!!!!!!

 

[cyberlizard]

You follow the biblical instructions.

the biblical instructions are a little vague. hence in Jesus' day there were multiple competing calendars for this very subject.

the Passage itself in Leviticus 23 says to start counting off the days following the Sabbath, but it does not specify whether it means the weekly Sabbath, or the same Sabbath it was speaking about a sentence or two earlier which was the Sabbath of Unleavened Bread.

so when a passage is vague, how can you be sure how to interpret it.

I would suggest your advice at the beginning to be extrememly over-simplistic in this context.



Steve

 

[cyberlizard]

Okay, let me simplify it. "Xmas" is an abbreviation for Christmas (which is how it's pronounced, not "ex-mas") using the initial letter Chi of 'Christ', written in Greek with the same symbol as Roman-alphabet 'X'. Christmas is the annual commemoration of the incarnation and birth of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, as described in those three Bible chapters I referred you to (actually only Matthew 1:18ff and Luke 2; Matthew 2 is the visit of the Wise Men, commemorated twelve days later at Epiphany/Theophany.)

Therefore it's Biblical. My other comments had to do with the Jewish (hence Biblical) feasts of Tabernacles and Yom Kippur, not normally observed by Christians, and almost never in the prescribed ways for Jews.

like our previous friend I suppose we could all be pedantic together.

of course Christmas is not biblical in the sense of a specified Holy Day seperated from the rest and treated as such by all in the early church. in that sense Christmas is not biblical.

if on the otherhand we simply mean christmas to be the day the incarnate word popped his head out and this being the day the 'church' chooses to remember it, all well and good.


Steve