Do you vaccinate?

[TaterFaith]

I have always vaccinated my children

 

[cobweb]

There is no such thing as herd immunity when it comes to pertussis, that is for sure.

It's amazing how much people miss, isn't Jan? I have a friend who has completely different parenting style than I do. Of those things, she vaccinates completely on CDC schedule. Her baby has been sick SOOO often - bronchitis, pneumonia (a very bad case of it, in fact), and other things as well. Coincidentally,... all these illnesses, she always came down with very shortly after routine vaccinations... hmmm. My friend didn't connect the dots, but I surely did!!

My 4 month old has only ever had one small cold. My husband got it first, he gave it to me, I gave it to baby. Baby was over before my husband was!! I truly believe he is so healthy because his immune system hasn't been damaged by vaccines, and of course because he's breastfed so was getting protection from me. All the people I know now that have never had vaccines are always healthier than those that have been vaccinated. It just seems so, "Duh!" considering they put immune suppressing toxins in the vaccines.

He's 4 months old. Talk to us when he is 11 and in school.

My kids are vax'ed on schedule and they are almost never sick. Usually they get one minor cold per year or less. We haven't had anything in this house requiring antibiotics for at least 3 years.

My oldest is hig functioning autistic, but he was born that way (as were all of the autistic kids I know) He was "different" in the womb. He was lining up M&Ms by color at 22 months old.

 

[GolfingMom]

I've gotten the VaX required for school. I didn't sign a 'religious waver' since I didn't think it applied. My children are very rarely ill (so far no colds or flu this year). I don't do the flu shots nor did I do the H1N1 flu shot.

All the people I know now that have never had vaccines are always healthier than those that have been vaccinated

LOL. I know the opposite. All my friends who opted out have children that are ill all the time.

 

[heart of peace]

IMO to many parents refuse to vaccinate because of what they've "read" on the internet rather than talk to informed medical professionals with education and resources and knowledge.

Diseases that have been nearly irraddicated are now once again harming children for lack of knowledge and the stupid internet garbage people read and accept as truth.

TCat, not all internet sites are stupid garbage. The CDC has it clearly written on their internet site (I wouldn't call the official CDC site stupid garbage )that rubella is made out of aborted fetal cells. I know many Christians parents who do not allow the rubella vaccine for their children for this reason. A pediatrician I met didn't know this fact.

 

[TaterFaith]

TCat, not all internet sites are stupid garbage. The CDC has it clearly written on their internet site (I wouldn't call the official CDC site stupid garbage )that rubella is made out of aborted fetal cells. I know many Christians parents who do not allow the rubella vaccine for their children for this reason. A pediatrician I met didn't know this fact.

I didn't know that either about rubella, I think I'm gonna throw up:o

 

[heart of peace]

TaterFaith, here is the link to it:
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd-vac/combo-vaccines/mmr/faqs-nipinfo-mmr.htm

Does MMR vaccine contain fetal or embryonic tissue? If so, what kind?

The rubella vaccine virus is cultured in human cell-line cultures, and some of these cell lines originated from aborted fetal tissue, obtained from legal abortions in the 1960's. No new fetal tissue is needed to produce cell lines to make these vaccines, now or in the future. Fetal tissue is not used to produce vaccines; cell lines generated from a single fetal tissue source are used; vaccine manufacturers obtain human cell lines from FDA-certified cell banks. After processing, very little, if any, of that tissue remains in the vaccine. Human Cell Cultures webpage (exit) and Summary of Vaccine Contents

(2/27/03)

 

[TaterFaith]

TaterFaith, here is the link to it:
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd-vac/combo-vaccines/mmr/faqs-nipinfo-mmr.htm

thank you

 

[CrystalBrooke]

Selective here. I've never had a flu shot, neither will my daughter and we didn't do the H1N1 either. She also will not be getting the Gardasil shot whenever she is old enough to have it. She has had a few vaccination shots and 2 (tho I can't remember right now which ones they were) that I have opted not to give her.

Call me selfish, but I'm not worried about anyone else when it comes to MY child.

 

[ido]

I don't think any of us are selfish when we're acting in what we believe is the best interest of our children. No one reserves the right to call one camp ill-informed or the other camp over-protective (or paranoid, or whatever).

JMHO

 

[b.hopeful]

I'm with FLnative.....I think if you are discussing/debating vaccinations...chances are you are not ill informed. Coming to two different conclusions doesn't have to mean that one is right and one is wrong.

 

[Bro_Sam]

Do you vaccinate your children?

Absolutely not!

 

[Bro_Sam]

I wished the parents of this child had worried about the lives of other people. They were very, very selfish.

While I'm sympathetic to your problem, there's no way I'm going to put my child in jeopardy for someone else.

 

[mont974x4]

selective

 

[ChildByGrace]

I put other because I think in England we dint have as many is in the us-or I don't think we do the chicken pox one.

I have given my son all of his so far (he's 2.5) and my daughter of 4 months has had most of hers. I will not have them done if they are Ill-even if they just have a cold so u also will delay vaccine

also I won't be ghving my daughter the cirvical cancer one and I didn't give my son the swine flu one - both because I don't think they know enough about any possible side effects

 

[Flipper]

I work for an environmental lawyer on the plaintiff side and I researched possible litigation against the manufacturers of vaccinations that contain thimerosol. What I found was good science on BOTH sides. What did it for us to not pursue it was the study comparing children in the US with limited thimerosol in their vaccines and children in Africa with much more thimerosol in their vaccines, and the incidence of autism in African children did not go up. Not saying there isn't a link - just that I don't think every kid with autism got it from thimerosol, and the ones who did are very few and far between. Personally, I believe environmental pollution is the biggest cause of autism. The Lancet recently recanted their earlier statements supporting the thimerosol theory.

My husband and I are anxiously waiting for a referral to adopt 2 siblings in Ethiopia. The referral can happen any time. We also just finished our first round of vaccinations. Because of our circumstance, we are opting to get every one that's recommended by the CDC. Regarding our future kids, we will probably opt to do the same thing. We're bringing them here from another country that does not have the same medical standards that we do, so we think it's probably best to give them all the protection they can get. If they were our natural children, we would probably be selective.

BTW, MMR vaccine did not work like it was supposed to on me - I came down with full blown measles. Then after that, I had antibodies.

 

[Tea]

I think the biggest fallacy is that vaccines give immunity for life, and that is just not true. Also that if one of these diseases is going to be spread in the community it is going to be by someone who has not been vaccinated, and that also is not true.

Whooping cough for example, is not a life long immunity, but only meant to get children through the first couple of years of life, as I found out when I had five (vaccinated) children come down with whooping cough. Rubella, is another that if you don't have antibodies, needs to be updated. Tetnus also needs updating regularly.

In the days before the internet, yes I did vaccinate my children, but after my second youngest was diagnosed with a cronic disease after having her MMR so that she could go to pre-school, I started learning and reading, and my youngest has not had any injections, and he also has not had any illnesses either. I have also chosen to homeschool, as school is now out of the question for him here. Sad, because it was from school that my eldest son brought home whooping cough. sigh...

For me personally, I think the idea behind vaccination is wonderful, and good, what I don't agree with though, are the chemicals that are added to them, and the cultures that some are grown on. If there were "clean, chemical free" injections available to the community, then I would definately have to re-evaluate the situation.

Just my two cents worth.

 

[heart of peace]

Many of the cases of autism are actually lyme-induced and this is not well known because many women who have lyme disease while pregnant don't even realize it. Lyme is known as the 'great imitator' because it resembles so many different diagnosis. Here is the site for it: http://www.lymeinducedautism.com/

From the site:

(PRWEB) November 7, 2007 -- A new article in Medical Hypotheses, "The association between tick-borne infections, Lyme Borreliosis and autism spectrum disorders" was released this week. Robert Bransfield, M.D., the main author collaborated with top doctors in both fields on this paper such as Jeff Wulfman, M.D., William T. Harvey, M.D. and Anju Usman, M.D.

The summary of the article states that "Chronic infectious diseases, including tick-borne infections such as Borrelia burgdorferi may have direct effects, promote other infections and create a weakened, sensitized and immunologically vulnerable state during fetal development and infancy leading to increased vulnerability for developing autism spectrum disorders."

 

[ProtectionofMotherofGod]

I didn't know that either about rubella, I think I'm gonna throw up:o

Please read the entire article cited below. The virus used to make the rubella vaccine in the 1960s was obtained from dead fetuses that died (and then had to be aborted) because they were exposed to Rubella. (A Rubella infection in a pregnant woman can kill her baby or cause it to have severe birth defects.)

"Since the tissue was removed after the aborted fetus was clinically dead, individuals involved in the vaccine production were not involved in the abortion."

ABORTED FETAL CELL USE IN RUBELLA VACCINES: A MEDICAL AND ETHICAL CONFLICT by Laurence F. Roberge, M.S.

Rubella (German Measles) - March of Dimes

 

[Sabertooth]

These are not a trick questions:

Are the Amish exposed to Lyme's disease?

Is Lyme's disease present in all of the places we are seeing a rise in Kannerian autism?

 

[Sabertooth]

Please read the entire article cited below. The virus used to make the rubella vaccine in the 1960s was obtained from dead fetuses that died (and then had to be aborted) because they were exposed to Rubella. (A Rubella infection in a pregnant woman can kill her baby or cause it to have severe birth defects.)

"Since the tissue was removed after the aborted fetus was clinically dead, individuals involved in the vaccine production were not involved in the abortion."

ABORTED FETAL CELL USE IN RUBELLA VACCINES: A MEDICAL AND ETHICAL CONFLICT by Laurence F. Roberge, M.S.

Rubella (German Measles) - March of Dimes

This page has a paper trail showing that the abortions in question were indeed deliberate and medically unnecessary. I believe those who performed the murder profitted from the sale of these remains, no matter how innocent/removed the buyer appears to be. We should be outraged!

Further, any cells from a fetus who died from natural causes would be ineligible for use in developing these cultures. They would be at risk for contaminating them with the disease that killed them. Not to be morbid, but it is the same with meat from animals. If they have any sickness they can't be eaten, as it would contaminate the food supply. These cells were chosen because they were reasonably healthy prior to these murders.