Some Evangelical Christians evangelizing in predominantly Christian countries

[Gleb Yakunin]

Ah, that must've been a small miniority of Greeks. Most came in in the early 1900s to 1920s. Ok, so again, where have you heard the Greeks say they came here before those already in these areas? I haven't.

Have you heard of the Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America? They argue all the time with members of the OCA of who was in the States first. (Just guessing that you may be from one of the Slavic jurisdictions).

 

[prodromos]

The short answer is yes. If you look up their webpage you will see that virtually everyone in the photograph has blonde hair and blue eyes. There never have been any Orthodox Christians in Pella other than the pirest and, perhaps a handful of workers the the Pella Corporation.

I've had a look and your claim of virtually everyone having blonde hair and blue eyes is a gross misstatement.
My eldest daughter has blonde hair and blue eyes and she is Greek. I know many Greek men and women who are likewise blue eyed and blonde. I haven't met many Russians but the ones I have met ran the gamut of physical characteristics.
Aside from that, you offer no evidence that the people you assume to be converts from amongst the locals were deliberately targeted. I myself am a convert to Orthodoxy and I can assure you that it was not so with me.

So please, deal with facts and leave your assumptions out of this discussion, unless of course you can back them up.

John

 

[Dorothea]

Have you heard of the Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America? They argue all the time with members of the OCA of who was in the States first. (Just guessing that you may be from one of the Slavic jurisdictions).

Been part of goarch for the past 12+ years, (was baptized when I was 1 into the GOC). And not once have I heard what you stated. Truly.

 

[Thekla]

HEY ! don't forget the red-headed Greeks

 

[Dorothea]

HEY ! don't forget the red-headed Greeks

My cousin has blue eyes and blonde hair. (She's from Greece and is Greek, of course. The daughter of my Thea (aunt)).

 

[prodromos]

HEY ! don't forget the red-headed Greeks

Oh yes, I know a few of those too

John

 

[Thekla]

My cousin has blue eyes and blonde hair. (She's from Greece and is Greek, of course. The daughter of my Thea (aunt)).

My Greek family has many generations of red-heads

 

[Dorothea]

My Greek family has many generations of red-heads

 

[Gleb Yakunin]

Been part of goarch for the past 12+ years, (was baptized when I was 1 into the GOC). And not once have I heard what you stated. Truly.

Well, I guess you do know the GOAA. And never had a discussion about which jurisdiction was in America first, that's very odd. For the EP has stated that the Greeks were first, which means that they claim the whole country as their jurisdiction.So I'm told.

 

[Gleb Yakunin]

HEY ! don't forget the red-headed Greeks

while out missioning, did you ever see a black russian?

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

HEY ! don't forget the red-headed Greeks

Feisty red headed Irish woman [Maureen O'Hara] meets romantic gray haired Greek [Anthony Quinn]....

[Fast forward to 1:23 minutes]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQOKEW2-Whc

 

[prodromos]

while out missioning, did you ever see a black russian?

I've drunk a few back in my youth

There are many Africans living in Greece, I imagine there are also some in Russia.

John

 

[Thekla]

Feisty red headed Irish woman [Maureen O'Hara] meets romantic gray haired Greek [Anthony Quinn]....

[Fast forward to 1:23 minutes]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQOKEW2-Whc

That was rather sweet

( and rather quiet for what are thought to be two somewhat feisty ethnoi )

 

[prodromos]

Feisty red headed Irish woman [Maureen O'Hara] meets romantic gray haired Greek [Anthony Quinn]....

Funny how many people would picture Anthony Quinn if asked about Greeks in the movies.
On the other hand it is just as well his roles were not played by Charlton Heston, given what his surname means in Greek!

I just recalled that a Greek colleague of mine married an Irish redhead over a decade ago. I wonder how they are going

John

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

That was rather sweet

( and rather quiet for what are thought to be two somewhat feisty ethnoi )

It wasn't always that way between those 2.
M. O'Hara was a type of "Archie Bunker" bigot in that movie and didn't have a lot of nice things to say about Greeks , especially Anthony Quinn, who was always trying to hit on her....

 

[Pythons]

Because they don't realize the EO and Catholic's "get it" already.

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[Thekla]

It wasn't always that way between those 2.
M. O'Hara was a type of "Archie Bunker" bigot and didn't have a lot of nice things to say about Greeks, especially Anthony Quinn, who was always trying to hit on her....

Ah, sounds a bit more "energetic"

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Because they don't realize the EO and Catholic's "get it" already.

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Do the Catholics understand Greek?

 

[Dorothea]

Well, I guess you do know the GOAA. And never had a discussion about which jurisdiction was in America first, that's very odd. For the EP has stated that the Greeks were first, which means that they claim the whole country as their jurisdiction.So I'm told.

Ok. If you say so. I'm a member of the GOC, and the present parish I'm in is quite small, and what we are usually discussing outside of the regular spiritual talk is paying the bills and fundraising and helping charities. That's about it.

 

[prodromos]

Well, I guess you do know the GOAA. And never had a discussion about which jurisdiction was in America first, that's very odd. For the EP has stated that the Greeks were first, which means that they claim the whole country as their jurisdiction.So I'm told.

The EP may claim that (I haven't seen any documents, official or otherwise, stating as much) but I believe the Moscow Patriarchate has a stronger claim on US soil than the EP, and I say that as a member of the Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of Australia which is under the EP. In my not so humble opinion I believe the EP needs to let go and let God. The Orthodox Church does not depend on the survival of the Constantinopolian Patriarchate, nor does the spiritual well being of the many crypto Orthodox in Turkey depend on it. In some ways I think it may actually be a hindrance, but that is only my opinion.

John