Carl Sagan said it better than I can...

[Belk]

How is that simpler then in the beginning, universe?

So no response to my query?

 

[AV1611VET]

"scientism is used to describe the view that natural science has authority over all other interpretations of life"
© Wikipedia

Tell MoonLancer, don't tell me.

I already discussed scientism in another thread.

 

[AV1611VET]

There would be very few atheists who consider the universe to have always existed. A big bang that happened 13-14 billion years ago is the theory with the most credence.

Tell it to Mr Sagat.

He's the one whose quote started this conversation.

 

[AV1611VET]

You yourself have stated God has hidden evidence of creation and the flood.

I beg your pardon?

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[Nathan Poe]

I beg your pardon?

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Question: Anything about that supposed to inspire anything besides laughter and facepalming?

 

[sandwiches]

So bottom line, according to AV1611VET, the only reason to add a god into the creation of the universe is because a book says so. Very sound thinking.

 

[AV1611VET]

So bottom line, according to AV1611VET, the only reason to add a god into the creation of the universe is because a book says so. Very sound thinking.

No, atheists [think they] took Him out --- we're just showing, as the song says, "He was there all the time."

 

[sandwiches]

No, atheists [think they] took Him out --- we're just showing, as the song says, "He was there all the time."

He is there, according to a book. We're back to the same place, AV.

 

[AV1611VET]

He is there, according to a book. We're back to the same place, AV.

Seeing as that Book is His Autobiography...

 

[sandwiches]

Seeing as that Book is His Autobiography...

What reason is there to believe it is really inspired by this deity?

 

[Nathan Poe]

What reason is there to believe it is really inspired by this deity?

Its worshippers say so.

 

[SithDoughnut]

Seeing as that Book is His Autobiography...

No it isn't. It barely mentions the life of God. Certainly not before Genesis. If it was his autobiography, I feel that proving/disproving God would be much easier.

 

[jpcedotal]

Karl Sagan began a religion masked in very bad science theory....in which, naturalist now follow. He wants mankind to worship the cosmos, not God.

 

[SithDoughnut]

Karl Sagan began a religion masked in very bad science theory....in which, naturalist now follow. He wants mankind to worship the cosmos, not God.

While I doubt this, at least we know the cosmos exists...

 

[AV1611VET]

If it was his autobiography, I feel that proving/disproving God would be much easier.

Read what you just said here slowly, SD.

"Disproving"?

Someone writes an autobiography, and that 'disproves' his existence?

 

[sandwiches]

Read what you just said here slowly, SD.

"Disproving"?

Someone writes and autobiography, and that 'disproves' his existence?

Read what you just said very slowly, AV, and THINK about it for a minute.

If an autobiography is published, you can read the book and deduce or investigate whether that person truly existed or exists. It's not like fake autobiographies have never been written.

 

[AV1611VET]

Read what you just said very slowly, AV, and THINK about it for a minute.

If an autobiography is published, you can read the book and deduce or investigate whether that person truly existed or exists. It's not like fake autobiographies have never been written.

Read what I said slowly, sandwiches.

"Someone writes an autobiography..."

If it was fake, it wasn't an autobiography, was it?

 

[sandwiches]

Read what I said slowly, sandwiches.

"Someone writes an autobiography..."

If it was fake, it wasn't an autobiography, was it?

Read again, AV.

"Someone writes an autobiography..."

Considering that HUMANS supposedly WROTE this 'autobiography,' it's not an 'autobiography' is it? It's more like hiring a writer to write your biography. 'Inspired by' is NOT the same a 'written by.'

Edit: Is this where conflagration, equivocation, logic-twisting, and misinterpreting will come in?

 

[Nathan Poe]

Edit: Is this where conflagration, equivocation, logic-twisting, and misinterpreting will come in?

I've always found that to be the cornerstone of the fundies' arguments.

 

[BananaSlug]

I beg your pardon?

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"Cleaned up"= hid.