Should Revelations be studied?

[Stryder06]

As Christians, and those anticipating the coming of our Lord, should it be of importance to the body of Christ to study and understand the last book of the bible?

There are many incorrect theories floating around about what Revelations teaches, this being the case, shouldn't the church have the best understanding (as good as possible that is) in regards to this book?

Even move, do you think that Revelations is important to salvation and our mission to preach the gospel?

 

[CalmRon]

I remember as 10 year old in church drawn to revelation; didn't understand a lick of it but I kept reading it.

I think that revelation should be read in order to understand the nature of our salvation, what jesus expects out of the churches and that it defines our blessed hope.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

As Christians, and those anticipating the coming of our Lord, should it be of importance to the body of Christ to study and understand the last book of the bible?

There are many incorrect theories floating around about what Revelations teaches, this being the case, shouldn't the church have the best understanding (as good as possible that is) in regards to this book?

Even move, do you think that Revelations is important to salvation and our mission to preach the gospel?

I believe the Jews would be more edified by the book of Revelation than us "gentile" Christians would.

Which Church do you believe has the correct theories on that book if I may ask?

Afterall, it is the fulfillement of all the OT prophecies upon them. I myself read it as fulfilled for "ME" as would the Jews if they read and studied it.

Note the Song of Moses. Thoughts?

Reve 15:3 And they are singing the Song of Moses, the bond-servant of the God, and the Song of the Lambkin saying........

Exodus 15:1 Then Mosheh is singing and sons of Yisra'el the song, this to YHWH. And they are saying to say of "I shall sing to YHWH that to exalt He exalts. Horse and one riding of him He heaved into sea [Reve 15:3]

 

[ThomasDa]

Should Revelations be studied?

Which revelations are you talking about?

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Should Revelations be studied?

Which revelations are you talking about?

A lot of Christians use the plural for that word.

Some call it the "Apocalypse" because it is similar to the greek word. Give him a break why don't ya

Originally Posted by Stryder06
As Christians, and those anticipating the coming of our Lord, should it be of importance to the body of Christ to study and understand the last book of the bible?

Luke 2:32 A light into a from-covering/apo-kaluyin <602> of Nations and glory of people of Thee Israel

Revelation 1:1 A-from-covering/apo-kaluyiV <602> of Jesus Christ,

 

[christianmomof3]

Should Revelations be studied?

Which revelations are you talking about?

I wondered the same thing.

The book is Revelation and it is one revelation - in many parts perhaps, but only one - not many.
It is the revelation of Jesus Christ.
The book of Revelation is the conclusion and completion of the entire divine revelation and without it, the Bible, and one's understanding of God's eternal purpose are incomplete.
It is a symbolic book showing how Christ is now caring for the church and also how He will come to judge and possess the earth and how He will bring the church into it's fulfillment in the New Jerusalem.
If more Christians would read and understand the book of Revelation they would know that as Chrisitans, our ultimate goal and destiny is not to die and go to heaven, but to be a part of the holy city, the New Jerusalem, which will come down out of heaven from God and will be God and man together as one for eternity.

 

[JudaicChristian]

Should Revelations be studied?
I wondered the same thing.

The book is Revelation and it is one revelation - in many parts perhaps, but only one - not many.
It is the revelation of Jesus Christ.
The book of Revelation is the conclusion and completion of the entire divine revelation and without it, the Bible, and one's understanding of God's eternal purpose are incomplete.
It is a symbolic book showing how Christ is now caring for the church and also how He will come to judge and possess the earth and how He will bring the church into it's fulfillment in the New Jerusalem.
If more Christians would read and understand the book of Revelation they would know that as Chrisitans, our ultimate goal and destiny is not to die and go to heaven, but to be a part of the holy city, the New Jerusalem, which will come down out of heaven from God and will be God and man together as one for eternity.

Because there is more than a few things being revealed, I would think that it would be plural.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Because there is more than a few things being revealed, I would think that it would be plural.

Well, there are 3 Signs shown.
The Woman, the Dragon and the Bowls of Wrath.

Matt 24:3....and what? the Sign............
Mark 13:4........and what? the Sign...
Luke 21:7....and what? the Sign.....

Reve 15:1 And I visioned another Sign in the heaven, great and marvelous.
Messengers seven, having stripes/blows seven, the last, that in them is-finished/etelesqh <5055> (5681) the fury of the God.

 

[Stryder06]

I believe the Jews would be more edified by the book of Revelation than us "gentile" Christians would.

How so?

Which Church do you believe has the correct theories on that book if I may ask?

The Adventist Church

Afterall, it is the fulfillement of all the OT prophecies upon them. I myself read it as fulfilled for "ME" as would the Jews if they read and studied it.

Well that would be kinda hard considering certain portions of the book's prophecies have not come to pass yet

Note the Song of Moses. Thoughts?

The song of Moses is a song of deliverance. It's a parallel. Just as they COI sang when they passed through the red sea and Pharaoh's army was destoryed, so will we sing a new song upon our deliverance.

 

[Mankin]

We can gain edification, encouragement, or wisdom from reading any book of the Bible. However with Revelation, we should be very careful how we interpret it.

Imo, it is best to try to avoid literal application of the prophecies in Revelation since so many of them are either not backed up by historical records or blown out of proportion.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

How so?

The Adventist Church

Well that would be kinda hard considering certain portions of the book's prophecies have not come to pass yet

The song of Moses is a song of deliverance. It's a parallel. Just as they COI sang when they passed through the red sea and Pharaoh's army was destoryed, so will we sing a new song upon our deliverance.

According to Dan 12/Luke 21:28 and the Olivet Discourse, the "deliverence" comes/came to the OC Hebrew Israelites/Jews first.


Afterall, 144,000 of them are sealed from their 12 tribes in Revelation.
Btw, I view and a lot of others view Matt 24 and the Olivet Discourse as fulfilled upon Them at the Destruction of Jerusalem and their Temple as prophecied by Jesus and the OT/OC Prophets.

Luke 21:28 Beginning yet these-things to be becoming, up-bend! and lift-up! the heads of ye, thru-that is nearing the redemption/apo-lutrwsiV <629> of ye.

1 Corinthians 1:30 Out of him yet, ye are in Christ Jesus, who was become wisdom to us from God, righteousness besides, and hallowing, and redemption/apo-lutrwsiV <629>

 

[Stryder06]

We can gain edification, encouragement, or wisdom from reading any book of the Bible. However with Revelation, we should be very careful how we interpret it.

Agreed

Imo, it is best to try to avoid literal application of the prophecies in Revelation since so many of them are either not backed up by historical records or blown out of proportion.

I can say that I think there are parts of the book that we may never understand properly, but I believe that light has been given us so that we can discern that which has come to pass and be ready for that which is to come. Is there any prophecy in particular that you know of that gets blown out of proportion?

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Agreed

I can say that I think there are parts of the book that we may never understand properly, but I believe that light has been given us so that we can discern that which has come to pass and be ready for that which is to come. Is there any prophecy in particular that you know of that gets blown out of proportion?

I would say Daniel/Olivet Discourse in general, and Matthew 24 in particular.
I hope to get more input on the Matthew 24 thread I have up at the link in my siggy

[edit to add]. It was moved from the GT board to the Unorthodox board and might be one reason it doesn't get viewed much ehehe......

 

[zeke37]

As Christians, and those anticipating the coming of our Lord, should it be of importance to the body of Christ to study and understand the last book of the bible?

There are many incorrect theories floating around about what Revelations teaches, this being the case, shouldn't the church have the best understanding (as good as possible that is) in regards to this book?

Even move, do you think that Revelations is important to salvation and our mission to preach the gospel?

I found the answer to your question in the bible.



1The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

2Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw.

3Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.


this is the answer to your question. Agreed?

 

[Celticflower]

I think there are lessons to be learned from Revelation, but I don't think it is a step by step blueprint of what has/will/may happen.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

I think there are lessons to be learned from Revelation, but I don't think it is a step by step blueprint of what has/will/may happen.

Hi Cf! I believe it is the same "blueprint" that is used from the very first verse in Genesis to the last verse of Malachi in the OT/OC.

I started this thread over on the Unorthodox board on Revelation.

http://www.christianforums.com/t7396952/
How much of Revelation is fulfilled?

And one reason I started it there instead of on the GT board is because a thread I had on Matthew 24 was moved from the GT board to the UT board and a reason I was given by Staff was because of the fact I view and voted it as Fulfilled.[even a lot of so called "partial preterists" view it as fulfilled]

Why is Matt 24 [and all the Olivet Discourse] and Revelation so "Controversial" within Christianity today? Thoughts?

http://www.christianforums.com/t7392923/
How much of Matthew 24 is fulfilled

 

[squint]

Hi Cf! I believe it is the same "blueprint" that is used from the very first verse in Genesis to the last verse of Malachi in the OT/OC.

I started this thread over on the Unorthodox board on Revelation.

http://www.christianforums.com/t7396952/
How much of Revelation is fulfilled?

And one reason I started it there instead of on the GT board is because a thread I had on Matthew 24 was moved from the GT board to the UT board and a reason I was given by Staff was because of the fact I view and voted it as Fulfilled.[even a lot of so called "partial preterists" view it as fulfilled]

Why is Matt 24 [and all the Olivet Discourse] and Revelation so "Controversial" within Christianity today? Thoughts?

http://www.christianforums.com/t7392923/
How much of Matthew 24 is fulfilled

Are you aware of what the typical embrace of full preterism really means lloj?

For examples:

Most full preterists say that many books of the N.T. are NOT APPLICABLE to present day Christianity i.e. Peter(s) James' Hebrews Acts etc. because they cannot harmonize those books to their beliefs, though it is EASILY done imho. This position alone does place the position far into the fringes of beliefs.

Most full preterists also present a TWO GOSPEL position. One for the Jews and one for the Gentiles, which is again a very marginal position.

Full preterism has many holes to say the least.

 

[Cribstyl]

We can gain edification, encouragement, or wisdom from reading any book of the Bible. However with Revelation, we should be very careful how we interpret it.

Imo, it is best to try to avoid literal application of the prophecies in Revelation since so many of them are either not backed up by historical records or blown out of proportion.

.... but I know for sure my SDA friends dont agree. What they call "THE THREE ANGEL'S MESSAGE is their gospel for today.



In Seventh-day Adventist beliefs, the "three angels' messages" is an interpretation of the messages given by three angels in Revelation 14:6-12. The church teaches that these messages are given to prepare the world for the second coming of Jesus Christ, and sees them as a central part of its own mission.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Are you aware of what the typical embrace of full preterism really means lloj?

For examples:

Most full preterists say that many books of the N.T. are NOT APPLICABLE to present day Christianity i.e. Peter(s) James' Hebrews Acts etc. because they cannot harmonize those books to their beliefs, though it is EASILY done imho. This position alone does place the position far into the fringes of beliefs.

Most full preterists also present a TWO GOSPEL position. One for the Jews and one for the Gentiles, which is again a very marginal position.

Full preterism has many holes to say the least.

Hi squint. As does "Partial Preterism" ehehe..Could you and others give me their view on the Matthew 24 thread at the link in my siggy? I am hoping to get at least 50 votes on it.

I myself read the Bible as fulfilled for "ME" and I never got into the "Endtime" books as most have.
I really hate "labels" of which the number of them is as the "sand of the sea".

Anywho, there are a few threads on "full preterism" and that term has always confused me.

Some Historicists/Amills [I believe the Catholic Church holds that view] that view themselves being in the 1000yr period NOW but yet, they are still considered "orthodox" Christians! How come?

http://www.christianforums.com/t7389995/
Do you agree with Full Preterism?

http://www.christianforums.com/t2367396/
Full Preterism-Where is the scriptural evidence?

 

[squint]

Hi squint. As does "Partial Preterism" ehehe..

I agree.

I myself read the Bible as fulfilled for "ME" and I never got into the "Endtime" books as most have.

The 'end' of FULfillment is here, but is there really an end to that fulfillment?:

1 Cor. 15:
28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

I really hate "labels" of which the number of them is as the "sand of the sea".

We both know that all of us are rightfully entitled to our individual reflections on all matters. That is the territory of the realm of the subjective observers. I admit to what I reflect as being 'subjective' and never the 'whole' as that is not possible 'for me.'

Anywho, there are a few threads on "full preterism" and that term has always confused me.

Some Historicists/Amills [I believe the Catholic Church holds that view] that view themselves being in the 1000yr period NOW but yet, they are still considered "orthodox" Christians! How come?

http://www.christianforums.com/t7389995/
Do you agree with Full Preterism?

http://www.christianforums.com/t2367396/
Full Preterism-Where is the scriptural evidence?

I would agree that there is a double standard regarding the 'amill' portion, but the RCC certainly does not embrace the typical 'full preterism' views that I know of so they get a by.