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So let's see the next 5 points:

6) How long is Allah's day?

1,000 years

22:47 And they urge you to hasten the punishment. But Allah will never fail in His promise. And indeed, a day with your Lord is like a thousand years of those which you count.

32:5 He arranges [each] matter from the heaven to the earth; then it will ascend to Him in a Day, the extent of which is a thousand years of those which you count.

50,000 years

70:4 The angels and the Spirit [i.e., Gabriel] will ascend to Him during a Day the extent of which is fifty thousand years.


7) Who chooses the devils to be the friends of disbelievers?

Allah

7:27 O children of Adam, let not Satan tempt you as he removed your parents from Paradise, stripping them of their clothing to show them their private parts. Indeed, he sees you, he and his tribe, from where you do not see them. Indeed, We have made the devils allies to those who do not believe.

The disbelievers

7:30 A group [of you] He guided, and a group deserved [to be in] error. Indeed, they [i.e., the latter] had taken the devils as allies instead of Allah while they thought that they were guided.


8) Was Pharaoh drowned or saved?

He was drowned.

17:102-103 [Moses] said, "You have already known that none has sent down these [signs] except the Lord of the heavens and the earth as evidence, and indeed I think, O Pharaoh, that you are destroyed."
So he intended to drive them from the land, but We drowned him and those with him all together.

28:40 So We took him and his soldiers and threw them into the sea. So see how was the end of the wrongdoers.

43:55 And when they angered Us, We took retribution from them and drowned them all.

He was saved.

10:90-92 And We took the Children of Israel across the sea, and Pharaoh and his soldiers pursued them in tyranny and enmity until, when drowning overtook him, he said, "I believe that there is no deity except that in whom the Children of Israel believe, and I am of the Muslims."
Now? And you had disobeyed [Him] before and were of the corrupters?
So today We will save you in body that you may be to those who succeed you a sign. And indeed, many among the people, of Our signs, are heedless.


9) Will all Jews and Christians go to hell?

Yes, all Christians will go to hell.

3:85 And whoever desires other than Islam as religion – never will it be accepted from him, and he, in the Hereafter, will be among the losers.

5:72 They have certainly disbelieved who say, "Allah is the Messiah, the son of Mary" while the Messiah has said, "O Children of Israel, worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord." Indeed, he who associates others with Allah – Allah has forbidden him Paradise, and his refuge is the Fire. And there are not for the wrongdoers any helpers.

No, some will not.

2:62 Indeed, those who believed and those who were Jews or Christians or Sabeans [before Prophet Muhammad ] – those [among them] who believed in Allah and the Last Day and did righteousness – will have their reward with their Lord, and no fear will there be concerning them, nor will they grieve.

5:69 Indeed, those who have believed [in Prophet Muhammad ] and those [before him ] who were Jews or Sabeans or Christians – those [among them] who believed in Allah and the Last Day and did righteousness – no fear will there be concerning them, nor will they grieve.


10) Does Muhammad ask for a fee?

Yes.

2:195 And spend in the way of Allah and do not throw [yourselves] with your [own] hands into destruction [by refraining]. And do good; indeed, Allah loves the doers of good.

8:41 And know that anything you obtain of war booty – then indeed, for Allah is one fifth of it and for the Messenger and for [his] near relatives and the orphans, the needy, and the [stranded] traveler, if you have believed in Allah and in that which We sent down to Our Servant on the day of criterion [i.e., decisive encounter] – the day when the two armies met [at Badr]. And Allah, over all things, is competent.

9:103 Take, [O Muhammad], from their wealth a charity by which you purify them and cause them increase, and invoke [Allah's blessings] upon them. Indeed, your invocations are reassurance for them. And Allah is Hearing and Knowing.

9:111 Indeed, Allah has purchased from the believers their lives and their properties [in exchange] for that they will have Paradise. They fight in the cause of Allah, so they kill and are killed. [It is] a true promise [binding] upon Him in the Torah and the Gospel and the Qur’an. And who is truer to his covenant than Allah? So rejoice in your transaction which you have contracted. And it is that which is the great attainment.

47:38 Here you are – those invited to spend in the cause of Allah – but among you are those who withhold [out of greed]. And whoever withholds only withholds [benefit] from himself; and Allah is the Free of need, while you are the needy. And if you turn away [i.e., refuse], He will replace you with another people; then they will not be the likes of you.

57:10 And why do you not spend in the cause of Allah while to Allah belongs the heritage of the heavens and the earth? Not equal among you are those who spent before the conquest [of Makkah] and fought [and those who did so after it]. Those are greater in degree than they who spent afterwards and fought. But to all Allah has promised the best [reward]. And Allah, with what you do, is Acquainted.

No.

12:104 And you do not ask of them for it any payment. It is not except a reminder to the worlds.

36:21 Follow those who do not ask of you [any] payment, and they are [rightly] guided.

42:23 It is that of which Allah gives good tidings to His servants who believe and do righteous deeds. Say, [O Muhammad], "I do not ask you for it [i.e., this message] any payment [but] only good will through [i.e., due to] kinship." And whoever commits a good deed – We will increase for him good therein. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Appreciative.

52:40 Or do you, [O Muhammad], ask of them a payment, so they are by debt burdened down?

68:46 Or do you ask of them a payment, so they are by debt burdened down?
 
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Point 6 - The answer

The aayah (interpretation of the meaning)

‘…And, verily, a day with your Lord is as a thousand years of what you reckon’ [al-Hajj 22:47] indicates that the length of a day with Allaah is a thousand years.

The same is indicated by the aayah (interpretation of the meaning) ‘He arranges (every) affair from the heavens to the earth, then it (the affair) will go up to Him, in one Day, the space whereof is a thousand years of your reckoning.’ [al-Sajdah 32:5].

Another aayah indicates something different (interpretation of the meaning): ‘The angels and the Rooh [Jibreel] ascend to Him in a Day the measure whereof is fifty thousand years’ [al-Ma’aarij 70:4].

Explanation - Reported by Ibn Abi Haatim via Sammaak from ‘Ikrimah from Ibn ‘Abbaas (May Allah be Pleased with them):

"The day of a thousand years mentioned in Soorat al-Hajj is one of the six days in which Allaah created the heavens and the earth; the day of a thousand years mentioned in Soorat al-Sajdah is the length of time it takes for a matter to go up to Allaah; and the day of fifty thousand years is the Day of Resurrection"

So you know, Ibn Abbaas was a great companion of the Prophet Muhammed and was given the title "Interpreter of the Quran" by the Companions and later Scholars of Islam. So much so that even if ALL (even Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman and Ali if my memory serves me right) the companions were to disagree with him, then his word takes precedent because the Prophet prayed for him specfically to be given knowledge of the Quran unlike anyone else.

And all Companions of Muhammed are trustworthy by the Grace of Allah the Exalted the Mighty

I hope this clarifies this for you Becky.

I will answer the rest of the points in due course.

All Praise be to Allah
 
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8 - Was Pharaoh drowned or saved?

No doubt according to Islamic belief Pharaoh drowned.

A better translation of the key verse 10:92 is:

"So this day We shall deliver your (dead) body (out from the sea) that you may be a sign to those who come after you!) "

Ibn Abbas (may Allah be pleased with them) said concerning this verse:

"Some of the Children of Israel doubted the death of Pharoah so Allah commanded the sea to throw his body -- whole, without a soul -- with his known armor plate. The body was thrown to a high place on the land so that the Children of Israel could confirm his death and destruction.''

Taken from Tafsir.com Tafsir Ibn Kathir

Another point which i think is worth mentioning is that even though Pharoah said that "there is no God worthy of worship except Allah" he still died as a disbeliever. Please refer to the end of Chapter Ghafir below:

Tafsir.com Tafsir Ibn Kathir

Hope this clarifies this point for you Becky

All Praise be to Allah Exalted and Mighty
 
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So let's see the next 5 points:

6) How long is Allah's day?

1,000 years

22:47 And they urge you to hasten the punishment. But Allah will never fail in His promise. And indeed, a day with your Lord is like a thousand years of those which you count.

32:5 He arranges [each] matter from the heaven to the earth; then it will ascend to Him in a Day, the extent of which is a thousand years of those which you count.

50,000 years

70:4 The angels and the Spirit [i.e., Gabriel] will ascend to Him during a Day the extent of which is fifty thousand years.

32-5 (Allah) Rules the cosmic affair from the heavens to the Earth. Then this affair travels to Him a distance in one day, at a measure of one thousand years of what you count.

the verse is talking about the angels whom carry out these orders from heavens to the earth .

in the time of mohammed (pbuh) people measured the distances neither in kilometers nor in miles but rather by how much time they needed to walk.

For example, a village two days away meant a distance equivalent to walking for two days; ten days away meant a distance equivalent to walking for ten days...
However in this verse the Quran specifies 1000 years of what they counted (not what they walked). Those people back then followed the lunar calendar and counted 12 lunar months each year. These months are related to the moon and not related to the sun. Hence in 1 day the angels will travel a distance of 1000 years of what they counted (the moon). Since this verse is referring to distance, then God is saying that angels travel in one day the same distance that the moon travels in 12000 lunar orbits.


70-4 The angels and the Spirit ascend to Him in a day, the measure of which is fifty thousand years.

Here angels will experience 1 day while humans will measure it as 50,000 years (time vs. time and not time vs. distance as the previous lunar verse)
it something which known nowadays by the relativity theory
 
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Point 6 - The answer

The aayah (interpretation of the meaning)

‘…And, verily, a day with your Lord is as a thousand years of what you reckon’ [al-Hajj 22:47] indicates that the length of a day with Allaah is a thousand years.
...
"The day of a thousand years mentioned in Soorat al-Hajj is one of the six days in which Allaah created the heavens and the earth;

So that means that you believe that the earth was created in 6,000 years, right?

The same is indicated by the aayah (interpretation of the meaning) ‘He arranges (every) affair from the heavens to the earth, then it (the affair) will go up to Him, in one Day, the space whereof is a thousand years of your reckoning.’ [al-Sajdah 32:5].
...
the day of a thousand years mentioned in Soorat al-Sajdah is the length of time it takes for a matter to go up to Allaah;
What kind of 'matter' is that which needs 1,000 years to go up to Allah?

Another aayah indicates something different (interpretation of the meaning): ‘The angels and the Rooh [Jibreel] ascend to Him in a Day the measure whereof is fifty thousand years’ [al-Ma’aarij 70:4].
...
and the day of fifty thousand years is the Day of Resurrection"
Does that mean the Day of Resurrection will be 50,000 years long?

I hope this clarifies this for you Becky.

To some extent yes, I see that the 3 verses in question describe 3 different situations. But I would be curious to know if in Arabic, for the word 'day', the same Arabic word is used in all three verses? Also I don't really understand why for example a matter does need 1,000 years to go up to Allah, but the day or Resurrection will be 50,000 years? Why is the first day described as being shorter than the latter?
 
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7) Who chooses the devils to be the friends of disbelievers?

Allah

7:27 O children of Adam, let not Satan tempt you as he removed your parents from Paradise, stripping them of their clothing to show them their private parts. Indeed, he sees you, he and his tribe, from where you do not see them. Indeed, We have made the devils allies to those who do not believe.

The disbelievers

7:30 A group [of you] He guided, and a group deserved [to be in] error. Indeed, they [i.e., the latter] had taken the devils as allies instead of Allah while they thought that they were guided.

I dont understand point 7, can you clarify the issue being raised?

The first verse says in the last sentence that Allah is the one who has chosen the devils as allies for the disbelievers. And the second verse says the disbelievers themselves have chosen the devils as allies, because they have chosen to not do Allah's will. So does Allah or the disbelievers themselves choose the devils as their allies?
 
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So that means that you believe that the earth was created in 6,000 years, right?


What kind of 'matter' is that which needs 1,000 years to go up to Allah?


Does that mean the Day of Resurrection will be 50,000 years long?



To some extent yes, I see that the 3 verses in question describe 3 different situations. But I would be curious to know if in Arabic, for the word 'day', the same Arabic word is used in all three verses? Also I don't really understand why for example a matter does need 1,000 years to go up to Allah, but the day or Resurrection will be 50,000 years? Why is the first day described as being shorter than the latter?


Its 50,000 years long for the disbelievers before they go to hell

and for the believers it's far less it can last from 3 hours to 10 mins
 
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8 - Was Pharaoh drowned or saved?

No doubt according to Islamic belief Pharaoh drowned.

A better translation of the key verse 10:92 is:

"So this day We shall deliver your (dead) body (out from the sea) that you may be a sign to those who come after you!) "

Ibn Abbas (may Allah be pleased with them) said concerning this verse:

"Some of the Children of Israel doubted the death of Pharoah so Allah commanded the sea to throw his body -- whole, without a soul -- with his known armor plate. The body was thrown to a high place on the land so that the Children of Israel could confirm his death and destruction.''

Taken from Tafsir.com Tafsir Ibn Kathir

Another point which i think is worth mentioning is that even though Pharoah said that "there is no God worthy of worship except Allah" he still died as a disbeliever. Please refer to the end of Chapter Ghafir below:

Tafsir.com Tafsir Ibn Kathir

Hope this clarifies this point for you Becky

All Praise be to Allah Exalted and Mighty

OK, this one is clear for me.

But if anyone wants to ask or comment on any of the points, please feel free to do that.
 
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9) Will all Jews and Christians go to hell?

To save myself time, please can you refer to the following website:

Islam Question and Answer - Who are the Jews and Christians who will enter Paradise?

This should clarify the issue

Regards

I knew the answer for this already. ;) But I did post it, so that we'll have a complete list with all the answers in this thread.

Here is a quote from the link which says who are the ones who will be in Heaven according to the Qur'an:

As far as the Jews are concerning, their faith meant believing in the Tawraat (original Torah) and following the way of Moosa (peace be upon him) until ‘Eesa came, after which whoever continued to follow the Torah and the way of Moosa, and did not leave this and follow ‘Eesa, was doomed. As far as the Christians are concerned, their faith meant believing in the Injeel (original Gospel) and following the laws of ‘Eesa; whoever did this was a believer whose faith was acceptable to Allaah, until Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) came, after which whoever did not follow Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and leave the way of ‘Eesa and the Injeel that he had been following before, was doomed.

The aayah (interpretation of the meaning), “And whoever seeks a religion other than Islam, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers” [Aal ‘Imraan 3:85] is a statement that Allaah will not accept any way or deed from anyone, after sending His Final Messenger, except those that are in accordance with the laws of Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). Prior to this, however, anyone who followed the Prophet of his own time was on the Straight Path of salvation.
 
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10) Does Muhammad ask for a fee?

I dont understand the point raised. Do they mean that Muhammed asked for money or some kind of wage?

Yes, that's how I understand it. The first verses obviously say that the Muslims should give a part of their belongings to Muhammad. The last ones say he (Muhammad) did not ask for a payment. So did they have to share with Muhammad from their belongings or not?
 
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originally posted by SlaveOfGod

You are not bringing me any evidence it just your opinion and doubts.

Tell me where Muhammed inferred that Jesus was genetically from God?

I have given you my evidence how Jesus was created according to Islamic principles so it is upon you to bring your evidence from the Quran or the Sunnah telling me how Muhammed believed Jesus was genetically from God.......

Hi, SlaveOfGod. I just realized that we are speaking of two different perspectives. Look at my initial reponse to you, specifically the higlighted portion (red).

But as i mentioned earlier how can He (Allah Exalted) have children when the child is the offspring of two compatible spouses?
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peaceful soul said:
That depends upon what you mean by "child". Mohammad mistakenly thought that child was related to offspring/genetics when understanding the Christian position of Jesus. God does not have sons and daughters by genetics. That is something of Pagan origins. Now how did he misunderstand this if he was a prophet of God??? Of course, the Christians don't know what they are talking about.

As you can see in post post #25, I was referring to Mohammad's understanding of Christian text. I already know about how Muslims view it. I missed it when you started to look at it from a Muslim's perspective from within the Qu'ran. I take part of the fault in not picking up on that while continuing to discuss with you. I don't think that there is much more to say than to state my postion on what I saw when I started from post #51.

This is a Muslim who looks upon Christianity and sees the terminology and misunderstands it and takes it to be a literal son. I am not talking about how the Qu'ran sees Jesus.

112.001
YUSUFALI: Say: He is Allah, the One and Only;
PICKTHAL: Say: He is Allah, the One!
SHAKIR: Say: He, Allah, is One.

112.002
YUSUFALI: Allah, the Eternal, Absolute;
PICKTHAL: Allah, the eternally Besought of all!
SHAKIR: Allah is He on Whom all depend.

112.003
YUSUFALI: He begetteth not, nor is He begotten;
PICKTHAL: He begetteth not nor was begotten.
SHAKIR: He begets not, nor is He begotten.

112.004
YUSUFALI: And there is none like unto Him.
PICKTHAL: And there is none comparable unto Him.
SHAKIR: And none is like Him.

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019.088
YUSUFALI: They say: "(Allah) Most Gracious has begotten a son!"
PICKTHAL: And they say: The Beneficent hath taken unto Himself a son.
SHAKIR: And they say: The Beneficent Allah has taken (to Himself) a son.

Even in the verses that you say are speaking to polythiest, the concept can be used to refer to any occurance where a son relationship is seen to exist between God and man. I am sure that is why some Muslims continue to make this claim against Chritianity.

I have also seen a Muslim defend the above verse as being mistranslated with the word begotten instead of taken as evidenced by Pickthal and Shakir. Yusuf says begotten. Don't blame me or anyone else who sees this verse and don't think that it translates to Chritians understanding that it refers to the principle of procreation. I really don't think that Mohammad would know what the Greek meaning of begotten represented.

I am not interested in peoples opinions, conjecture or doubt, I do not like to hear, "this is what I have seen here" or "I have heard" etc because this do not consitute hard facts.

Regards
Now that I have cleared up our misunderstanding, we do know that many Muslims do believe that Jesus was somehow linked to genetics in being described as the God's son when viewing the Bible. Even if you don't believe it, you know that this is a common misconception in Islam.

I think that you now understand what I was saying. I apolgize for not catching the problem much earlier. I hope that you accept my apology. Now we can move on to something else.
 
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7) Who chooses the devils to be the friends of disbelievers?

This answer is somewhat related to the previous question which was raised relating to who guides people, Allah or not.

Remember from that answer that Allaah guides whomsoever He wills and sends astray whomsoever He wills. He has told us that He guides those who obey Him and turn to Him, as He says (interpretation of the meaning):

While as for those who accept guidance, He increases their guidance and bestows o&shy;n them their piety [wash my mouth][47:17]

But whoever disobeys Allaah and turns away from Him, Allaah will not guide him, as He says (interpretation of the meaning):

Truly, Allaah guides not him who is a liar, and a disbeliever [39:3]

Everything happens by his permission but everyone has a choice to choose either guidance or disbelief. And this is the link between the two ayahs 27 and 30

A group He has guided, and a group deserved to be in error; (because) surely, they took the Shayatin as supporters instead of Allah, and think that they are guided [7:30]

Those who have chosen disbelief and associated partners with Allah have surely chosen the Shayatin as their supporters and helpers and this is indicated in the above ayah 7:30.

O Children of Adam! Let not Shaytan deceive you, as he got your parents out of Paradise, stripping them of their raiment, to show them their private parts. Verily, he and his tribe see you from where you cannot see them. Verily, We made the Shayatin friends of those who believe not [7:27]

In reality every person knows that he posseses will and ability, and through them is able to do or leave an action (like take the Shayatin as allies). However the will and ability of the person exists by the Will and Ability of Allah. Allah says:

For whoever from the creation wishes to follow the truth; and you will not wish it unless Allah, the Lord of all creation, wishes that for you [81:28-29]

The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Allaah has made every doer and what he does.” [Bukhari]

Shaykh Ibn Sa’di (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: Just as Allaah is the One Who created them – meaning people – He has also created that by means of which they act, namely their abilities and will, then they do various actions of obedience and sin, by the abilities and will which Allaah has created.

To summarise, people have chosen to take the Shaytin as their helpers and this was decreed by Allah Exalted and Mighty.

Hope this clarifies this issue.
 
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32-5 (Allah) Rules the cosmic affair from the heavens to the Earth. Then this affair travels to Him a distance in one day, at a measure of one thousand years of what you count.

the verse is talking about the angels whom carry out these orders from heavens to the earth .

I thought this verse does talk about how long a matter needs to go up to Allah (see the above underlined words), not to go down to the earth from Allah.

in the time of mohammed (pbuh) people measured the distances neither in kilometers nor in miles but rather by how much time they needed to walk.

For example, a village two days away meant a distance equivalent to walking for two days; ten days away meant a distance equivalent to walking for ten days...
However in this verse the Quran specifies 1000 years of what they counted (not what they walked).
So? :confused: What they walked is not relevant here then.

Those people back then followed the lunar calendar and counted 12 lunar months each year. These months are related to the moon and not related to the sun. Hence in 1 day the angels will travel a distance of 1000 years of what they counted (the moon). Since this verse is referring to distance, then God is saying that angels travel in one day the same distance that the moon travels in 12000 lunar orbits.

70-4 The angels and the Spirit ascend to Him in a day, the measure of which is fifty thousand years.

Here angels will experience 1 day while humans will measure it as 50,000 years (time vs. time and not time vs. distance as the previous lunar verse)
it something which known nowadays by the relativity theory

So you want to say that the day in those 2 verses is the same for Allah but we will perceive it as two different time periods?
 
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That's why I said earlier in my post, it's relevant to know for whom the verses was addressed to. It's for arab polytheist who said Allah had literal sons and daughter.

:confused:

If you could read me clearly in my first respond to this thread, you'll see I'm talking about Hinduism with their forms of God. I was not saying Jesus was a form of God. I know about Trinity :)

You did mention Hinduism, but you waited to the end of the paragraph; so, was I to believe that the entire paragraph was about it? You didn't start off with Hinduism in the first paragraph; then you started paragraph 2 not speaking of Hinduism. What am I to think?

Of course I was not saying Jesus was later than the Father in Trinity doctrine. It's for becky's explantion about arab polythiests of their literal son and daughter.
And like I said in my second post in this thread, if the form of God exists from the beginning(like in Hinduism), I'm still depict them as many Gods even though they are the same essence.

But that would be contradictory. If God existed like that eternally, you can't impose your beliefs on Him. He is as He is. Hinduism has reincarnation not incarnation. The principle is multiple lives-not one.

And I'm quite clear about Trinity doctrine really is for I've a lot of Christian friends here in Malaysia. Jesus in human flesh was not a form of God like Hinduism. But I don't subscribe to Trinity doctrine either. Becky asked my understanding of uncreated nature of God and that's my respond. I'm not trying to offend any religion whatsoever. In fact, I'll refrain myself to comment on other people doctrine until they ask me what is my view on their religion. :)

OK.

I'm sorry I've quoted only a snippet of your post. Because I was not arguing about Trinity there in my 2 posts in this thread. And I know Trinity is not about reincarnation(even though some Christians I've found used this term) because like I said, I've some insight about Trinity from my Christian friends.

OK.

I live in multi-racial country and I know how religion discussion can turns into disaster. In Malaysia, we're trying hard to avoid this. There're many character of people in this world and I don't know how theier acceptance of my comment on their religion. Plus this is a forum which people can represent themselves with text and I'm not good in English. I don't know whther my comment is in polite English form.

I don't have any problem with your English, at least not yet.

It was a sign to Moses.

[Surah 28:39]
AND WHEN Moses had fulfilled his term, and was wandering with his family [in the desert], he perceived a fire on the slope of Mount Sinai; [and so] he said to his family: "Wait here. Behold, I perceive a fire [far away]; perhaps I may bring you from there some tiding, or [at least] a burning brand from the fire, so that you might warm yourselves."

I know that it was a sign. All manifestations are signs. But it was a manifestation which placed Allah in the form of a bush. It is the form that I am trying to get you to elaborate on--not the sign. Was that not a manifestation of Allah, just as with Jesus, God in flesh? Do you see any similarities? Do you see any differences that would help me to believe that what happened with the bush was not the same as what hapened to Jesus? I see them as being of the same general type of manifestation of God in a visible form.

When Moses asked God to reveal Himself:
[Surah 7:143]
And when Moses came [to Mount Sinai] at the time set by Us, and his Sustainer spoke unto him, he said: "O my Sustainer! Show [Thyself] unto me, so that I might behold Thee!" Said [God]: "Never canst thou see Me. However, behold this mountain: if it remains firm in its place, then &#8211; only then &#8211; wilt thou see Me." And as soon as his Sustainer revealed His glory to the mountain, He caused it to crumble to dust; and Moses fell down in a swoon. And when he came to himself, he said: "Limitless art Thou in Thy glory! Unto Thee do I turn in repentance; and I shall [always] be the first to believe in Thee!"

I am not sure what this has to do with the quetions.
 
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7) Who chooses the devils to be the friends of disbelievers?

This answer is somewhat related to the previous question which was raised relating to who guides people, Allah or not.

Remember from that answer that Allaah guides whomsoever He wills and sends astray whomsoever He wills. He has told us that He guides those who obey Him and turn to Him, as He says (interpretation of the meaning):

While as for those who accept guidance, He increases their guidance and bestows o&shy;n them their piety [wash my mouth][47:17]

But whoever disobeys Allaah and turns away from Him, Allaah will not guide him, as He says (interpretation of the meaning):

Truly, Allaah guides not him who is a liar, and a disbeliever [39:3]

Everything happens by his permission but everyone has a choice to choose either guidance or disbelief. And this is the link between the two ayahs 27 and 30

A group He has guided, and a group deserved to be in error; (because) surely, they took the Shayatin as supporters instead of Allah, and think that they are guided [7:30]

Those who have chosen disbelief and associated partners with Allah have surely chosen the Shayatin as their supporters and helpers and this is indicated in the above ayah 7:30.

O Children of Adam! Let not Shaytan deceive you, as he got your parents out of Paradise, stripping them of their raiment, to show them their private parts. Verily, he and his tribe see you from where you cannot see them. Verily, We made the Shayatin friends of those who believe not [7:27]

In reality every person knows that he posseses will and ability, and through them is able to do or leave an action (like take the Shayatin as allies). However the will and ability of the person exists by the Will and Ability of Allah. Allah says:

For whoever from the creation wishes to follow the truth; and you will not wish it unless Allah, the Lord of all creation, wishes that for you [81:28-29]

The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: &#8220;Allaah has made every doer and what he does.&#8221; [Bukhari]

Shaykh Ibn Sa&#8217;di (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: Just as Allaah is the One Who created them &#8211; meaning people &#8211; He has also created that by means of which they act, namely their abilities and will, then they do various actions of obedience and sin, by the abilities and will which Allaah has created.

To summarise, people have chosen to take the Shaytin as their helpers and this was decreed by Allah Exalted and Mighty.

Hope this clarifies this issue.

Yeah I thought already that this answer is somehow related to the other question regarding who does guide people: Allah or Satan.

OK, so for me this one is clear also.
 
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Yes, that's how I understand it. The first verses obviously say that the Muslims should give a part of their belongings to Muhammad. The last ones say he (Muhammad) did not ask for a payment. So did they have to share with Muhammad from their belongings or not?

Becky I will answer this point for you tommorrow (if i have time) as time doesnt permit at the moment

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