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As we are having a thread discussing the contradictions within the Bible, I said why not having a thread discussing the contradictions within the Qur'an?
So for all Muslims out there: please feel free to join the discussion. I look forward to your comments and explanations.
Also all other members are welcome to join the discussion if they have something useful to say.
I will start with posting 5 contradictions, and as soon as they were clarified, I'll go on posting another 5, and so on.
These contradictions are from a link which Montalban posted some days ago in the thread: "the contradictions, what about them". Here is the link: Qur'an contradictions
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1) Have some passages in the Quran been abrogated?
No, the Quran is perfect and can never be abrogated.
2:85 Believe ye in part of the Scripture and disbelieve ye in part? And what is the reward of those who do so save ignominy in the life of the world, and ... the most grievous doom.
6:34 There is none to alter the decisions of Allah.
6:115 Perfected is the Word of thy Lord in truth and justice. There is naught that can change His words.
10:64 There is no changing the Words of Allah.
18:27 And recite that which hath been revealed unto thee of the Scripture of thy Lord. There is none who can change His words.
Yes, some verses have been abrogated.
2:106 Nothing of our revelation (even a single verse) do we abrogate or cause be forgotten, but we bring (in place) one better or the like thereof.
16:101 And when We put a revelation in place of (another) revelation, - and Allah knoweth best what He revealeth - they say: Lo! thou art but inventing. Most of them know not.
2) Is it OK to drink alcohol?
Yes
16:67 And of the fruits of the date-palm, and grapes, whence ye derive strong drink and (also) good nourishment. Lo! therein is indeed a portent for people who have sense.
No
2:219 Strong drink and games of chance. Say: In both is great sin.
3) How many angels talked to Mary?
One
19:16-19 And make mention of Mary in the Scripture, when she had withdrawn from her people to a chamber looking East, And had chosen seclusion from them. Then We sent unto her Our Spirit and it assumed for her the likeness of a perfect man. She said: Lo! I seek refuge in the Beneficent One from thee, if thou art God- fearing. He said: I am only a messenger of thy Lord, that I may bestow on thee a faultless son.
More than one
3:42 And when the angels said: O Mary! Lo! Allah hath chosen thee and made thee pure, and hath preferred thee above (all) the women of creation.
3:45 (And remember) when the angels said: O Mary! Lo! Allah giveth thee glad tidings of a word from him, whose name is the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, illustrious in the world and the Hereafter, and one of those brought near (unto Allah).
4) Who leads disbelievers astray?
Allah
2:6-7 As for the Disbelievers, Whether thou warn them or thou warn them not it is all one for them; they believe not. Allah hath sealed their hearing and their hearts, and on their eyes there is a covering.
6:25 We have placed upon their hearts veils, lest they should understand, and in their ears a deafness.
17:97-98 As for him whom He sendeth astray, for them thou wilt find no protecting friends beside Him, and We shall assemble them on the Day of Resurrection on their faces, blind, dumb and deaf; their habitation will be hell; whenever it abateth, We increase the flame for them. That is their reward because they disbelieved Our revelations.
18:57 Lo! on their hearts We have placed coverings so that they understand not, and in their ears a deafness. And though thou call them to the guidance, in that case they can never be led aright.
Iblis
7:16-18 Now, because Thou [Allah] hast sent me [Iblis] astray, verily I shall lurk in ambush for them on Thy Right Path. ... He [Allah] said: Go forth from hence, degraded, banished. As for such of them as follow thee, surely I will fill hell with all of you.
15:39-40 He said: My Lord! Because Thou hast sent me astray, I verily shall adorn the path of error for them in the earth, and shall mislead them every one, Save such of them as are Thy perfectly devoted slaves.
19:83 Seest thou not that We have set the devils on the disbelievers to confound them with confusion?
5) Can Allah do anything?
Yes, Allah can do anything.
35:1 Praise be to Allah, the Creator of the heavens and the earth, Who appointeth the angels messengers having wings two, three and four. He multiplieth in creation what He will. Lo! Allah is Able to do all things.
No, there are some things Allah cannot do.
6:100-101 Yet they ... impute falsely, without knowledge, sons and daughters unto Him. ... The Originator of the heavens and the earth! How can He have a child?
So for all Muslims out there: please feel free to join the discussion. I look forward to your comments and explanations.
Also all other members are welcome to join the discussion if they have something useful to say.
I will start with posting 5 contradictions, and as soon as they were clarified, I'll go on posting another 5, and so on.
These contradictions are from a link which Montalban posted some days ago in the thread: "the contradictions, what about them". Here is the link: Qur'an contradictions
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1) Have some passages in the Quran been abrogated?
No, the Quran is perfect and can never be abrogated.
2:85 Believe ye in part of the Scripture and disbelieve ye in part? And what is the reward of those who do so save ignominy in the life of the world, and ... the most grievous doom.
6:34 There is none to alter the decisions of Allah.
6:115 Perfected is the Word of thy Lord in truth and justice. There is naught that can change His words.
10:64 There is no changing the Words of Allah.
18:27 And recite that which hath been revealed unto thee of the Scripture of thy Lord. There is none who can change His words.
Yes, some verses have been abrogated.
2:106 Nothing of our revelation (even a single verse) do we abrogate or cause be forgotten, but we bring (in place) one better or the like thereof.
16:101 And when We put a revelation in place of (another) revelation, - and Allah knoweth best what He revealeth - they say: Lo! thou art but inventing. Most of them know not.
2) Is it OK to drink alcohol?
Yes
16:67 And of the fruits of the date-palm, and grapes, whence ye derive strong drink and (also) good nourishment. Lo! therein is indeed a portent for people who have sense.
No
2:219 Strong drink and games of chance. Say: In both is great sin.
3) How many angels talked to Mary?
One
19:16-19 And make mention of Mary in the Scripture, when she had withdrawn from her people to a chamber looking East, And had chosen seclusion from them. Then We sent unto her Our Spirit and it assumed for her the likeness of a perfect man. She said: Lo! I seek refuge in the Beneficent One from thee, if thou art God- fearing. He said: I am only a messenger of thy Lord, that I may bestow on thee a faultless son.
More than one
3:42 And when the angels said: O Mary! Lo! Allah hath chosen thee and made thee pure, and hath preferred thee above (all) the women of creation.
3:45 (And remember) when the angels said: O Mary! Lo! Allah giveth thee glad tidings of a word from him, whose name is the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, illustrious in the world and the Hereafter, and one of those brought near (unto Allah).
4) Who leads disbelievers astray?
Allah
2:6-7 As for the Disbelievers, Whether thou warn them or thou warn them not it is all one for them; they believe not. Allah hath sealed their hearing and their hearts, and on their eyes there is a covering.
6:25 We have placed upon their hearts veils, lest they should understand, and in their ears a deafness.
17:97-98 As for him whom He sendeth astray, for them thou wilt find no protecting friends beside Him, and We shall assemble them on the Day of Resurrection on their faces, blind, dumb and deaf; their habitation will be hell; whenever it abateth, We increase the flame for them. That is their reward because they disbelieved Our revelations.
18:57 Lo! on their hearts We have placed coverings so that they understand not, and in their ears a deafness. And though thou call them to the guidance, in that case they can never be led aright.
Iblis
7:16-18 Now, because Thou [Allah] hast sent me [Iblis] astray, verily I shall lurk in ambush for them on Thy Right Path. ... He [Allah] said: Go forth from hence, degraded, banished. As for such of them as follow thee, surely I will fill hell with all of you.
15:39-40 He said: My Lord! Because Thou hast sent me astray, I verily shall adorn the path of error for them in the earth, and shall mislead them every one, Save such of them as are Thy perfectly devoted slaves.
19:83 Seest thou not that We have set the devils on the disbelievers to confound them with confusion?
5) Can Allah do anything?
Yes, Allah can do anything.
35:1 Praise be to Allah, the Creator of the heavens and the earth, Who appointeth the angels messengers having wings two, three and four. He multiplieth in creation what He will. Lo! Allah is Able to do all things.
No, there are some things Allah cannot do.
6:100-101 Yet they ... impute falsely, without knowledge, sons and daughters unto Him. ... The Originator of the heavens and the earth! How can He have a child?
But if you don't care to explain things for me...
