Missing link found by Norwegian scientist

[fated]

Let's back this train up here --- I interpret Genesis 1 via the historical-grammatical method of interpretation.

The same method Jesus used.

Leaving the Jesus statement out for now, I'll explain myself again.

You may see the same, or very similar words, but fail to acknowledge the wide difference between you and the human writer, and the people to whom it is written. Specifically, do you think Gen 1 was written to lay out scientifically how the earth was created?

I do not see Genesis 1 as a science text, but a Creation narrative. Like many parts of the Bible, more interested in the people.

BUT, maybe you should think of it differently. To you, if evolution did occur, how would Genesis be different? For most Christian, for instance, it would not have to be different.

 

[AV1611VET]

You may see the same, or very similar words, but fail to acknowledge the wide difference between you and the human writer, and the people to whom it is written.

Right there is your mistake.

Human author?

Are you familiar with what's called Verbal Plenary Inspiration?

 

[Morcova]

Right there is your mistake.

Human author?

Are you familiar with what's called Verbal Plenary Inspiration?

It's when nutjobs claim an invisible man told them what to write down.

 

[fated]

just because its not of the same genus doesnt mean its not linked to us.

No, I meant what I said, that the place some people put it in, "the human line," is challenged, and that some scientists believe that it is not in "the human line."

I don't know if I failed to express that clearly, or if you had your heart set on it being in the human line... anyway, I have heard that its been moved around a bit, possibly into the human line, and then grabbing headlines. In any case, I am simply reporting that I have heard that its placement in the human line has been brought into question. I am not making a judgment on that myself, and am simply reporting what I have heard on the radio.

Because, like so many interested parties, I don't believe the term 'missing link' has any material meaning, the outcome of such placement controversies has little effect on me, and I am not personally invested on it being one way or the other.

Am I clear now?

 

[fated]

Right there is your mistake.

Human author?

Are you familiar with what's called Verbal Plenary Inspiration?

I didn't say author, I said writer. As in the person who scribed it. There is no doubt that the Bible has a spiritual and adaptive character, I am not challenging that, but completely ignoring the 'immediate audience' of the Sacred Text seems way far spiritual, and more likely to yield interpretive errors.

 

[LifeToTheFullest!]

Right there is your mistake.

Human author?

Are you familiar with what's called Verbal Plenary Inspiration?

Yep. And those silly sin seekin' imperfect human creations that are the best god could come up with to record it all.

 

[AV1611VET]

It's when ... claim an invisible man told them what to write down.

Wrong --- that's called Mechanical Inspiration.

 

[AV1611VET]

Yep. And those silly sin seekin' imperfect human creations that are the best god could come up with to record it all.

So if God prompted Adam (yes, Adam --- not Moses) to write Genesis 1, and Adam wrote it wrong, you think God just said, "Oh well, I'll go ahead and preserve the mistake. No one will notice."

 

[mpok1519]

No, I meant what I said, that the place some people put it in, "the human line," is challenged, and that some scientists believe that it is not in "the human line."

well no, this species is not a link in a sense of 'of the human line' because its also a missing link for a few other animals like kangaroos and cows I believe. But, its one of those species that is so far back in time its a descendant of many different species, really, BUT, its also connected to species that are connected to ape-like australapithicenes which are believe to be connected to us.

the term 'link' and 'connection' are subjective in this sense, but yes i can see where you're coming from.

 

[LifeToTheFullest!]

So if God prompted Adam (yes, Adam --- not Moses) to write Genesis 1, and Adam wrote it wrong, you think God just said, "Oh well, I'll go ahead and preserve the mistake. No one will notice."

More like, let's preserve the mistake, knowing they will notice.

But don't worry, over the centuries, scribes will alter words to harmonize accounts and make the reading less awkward.

You're finally starting to get it AV.

 

[Wiccan_Child]

So if God prompted Adam (yes, Adam --- not Moses) to write Genesis 1, and Adam wrote it wrong, you think God just said, "Oh well, I'll go ahead and preserve the mistake. No one will notice."

Yes: he's left the other flaws, imperfections, and mistakes in the real world, so why not typos and the like?

 

[mpok1519]

Only on paper, bro --- only on paper.

and 1+1=2 only on paper; its still true though.

You're a homo sapien.

Get over it.

Your perception will not change the fact that you are an animal, similiar to all animals on earth.

 

[AV1611VET]

More like, let's preserve the mistake, knowing they will notice.

But don't worry, over the centuries, scribes will alter words to harmonize accounts and make the reading less awkward.

Oh, my --- I wasn't aware of this secret creation conspiracy.

Thanks for the 411.

 

[AV1611VET]

Yes: he's left the other flaws, imperfections, and mistakes in the real world, so why not typos and the like?

We call that "flesh corruption".

 

[AV1611VET]

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[LifeToTheFullest!]

Oh, my --- I wasn't aware of this secret creation conspiracy.

Thanks for the 411.

Not a conspiracy really. More like humans make mistakes. Don't worry, it happens. Even smart monks and scribes have trouble identifying words from time to time and will mispell a word or two hear and there. Don't worry, it's not intentional, most of the time at least. Unless you come to a passage such as Mark 1:18 where it has Jesus becoming angry, which doesn't sound like the loving Jesus of the NT at all. So, you change it to "compassion" instead of "angry."

Don't let it shake your faith tho' AV, you're still a "True Christian."

 

[LifeToTheFullest!]

BTW AV, like it or not you are indeed... homo sapiens sapiens.

 

[mpok1519]

whats that pollution spewing nazi factory supposed to do with evolution?

if you beleive in evolution you're akin to polluting nazis?

lol oookay.

I don't usually don't have ideas like this, but, I'm starting to believe the govt should have more restrictions on voting...

 

[LifeToTheFullest!]

whats that pollution spewing nazi factory supposed to do with evolution?

if you beleive in evolution you're akin to polluting nazis?

lol oookay.

I don't usually don't have ideas like this, but, I'm starting to believe the govt should have more restrictions on voting...

Don't you know? Evolution and atheism get blamed for all the bad things that happen.

 

[mpok1519]

oh yeah....and Christians have been the cause of all happy things like bunnies, lollipops and rainbows... =P