Did benny deny the unam sanctum?

[LittleLambofJesus]

Originally Posted by chestertonrules They too subsist within the Church and are subject to the promises of Jesus even if they are ignorant of this truth.

You know what. I am getting a little tired of the RCs calling non-RCs ignorant.
I can see this as an outright "flame" against me personally and against the Orthodox Church.

 

[OrthodoxyUSA]

Unam Sanctum is a flame.

Forgive me...

 

[Hentenza]

I am not ignorant of the truth (the Catholic church claim). I know and have studied the Catholic church doctrines but simply find that I can not agree with enough of the doctrines to be a Catholic. So, if the unam sanctum still stands then how does the Catholic church view my chances of salvation outside of it?

 

[chestertonrules]

You know what. I am getting a little tired of the RCs calling non-RCs ignorant.
I can see this as an outright "flame" against me personally and against the Orthodox Church.

It is not a flame, it either applies to you or it doesn't.

As a former Catholic, you might be in a much worse position!

Let's hope not.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

It is not a flame, it either applies to you or it doesn't.

As a former Catholic, you might be in a much worse position!

Let's hope not.

Explain please

 

[Hentenza]

Unam Sanctum is a flame.

Forgive me...

Than report it so we can work the report.

 

[chestertonrules]

Explain please

It is much worse to reject the Church out of pride or a disagreement on moral teaching than to reject it from ignorance.

 

[chestertonrules]

Unam Sanctum is a flame.

Forgive me...

Or a lifeline.

Do you truly seek forgiveness?

 

[OrthodoxyUSA]

Yes... Hello.

I would like to report a flame.

Yes. A flame.

post number? um... Well, it's old.

I do have the name of the post and the poster. It's Unam Sanctum.

What?

Yes, I know. But, it's still a flame.

What do you mean it's out of your jurisdiction?

Who's jurisdiction is it?

Oh?

I see.

What do you suggest?

What?

Oh...

O.K. Thanks, bye...

click.

Forgive me...

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

It is much worse to reject the Church out of pride or a disagreement on moral teaching than to reject it from ignorance.

Another subtle "flame" I see. I do not reject my Church or its teachings.

 

[OrthodoxyUSA]

Do you truly seek forgiveness?

Not from the Church of Rome. No.

Forgive me...

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Not from the Church of Rome. No.

Forgive me...

Ahhh, to have the wisdom as thou dost have dear friend

 

[chestertonrules]

Another subtle "flame" I see. I do not reject my Church or its teachings.

It was neither subtle nor a flame.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

It was neither subtle nor a flame.

Then quit using the word "IGNORANCE" towards us in yours and from other RCs in your posts.

Save that for the "heathen" unbelievers in the world

1 Corin 12:1 About yet the spiritual-things brethren! not I am willing ye to be being ignorant/agnoein <50> (5721).

 

[JimfromOhio]

the current pope

Oh, I thought it was Benny Hinn, Word of Faith TV preacher.

 

[Hentenza]

It is much worse to reject the Church out of pride or a disagreement on moral teaching than to reject it from ignorance.

Are you saying that because the remainder of the universal church rejects the Catholic church doctrines it will be much worse? Like how much worse? Is our salvation affected?

 

[JimfromOhio]

It is much worse to reject the Church out of pride or a disagreement on moral teaching than to reject it from ignorance.

Lack of balance is often the direct consequence of over-emphasis on certain doctrinal issues while ignoring others that are related. Christians' conclusions are either ignorance or loyalty to a specific denomination, cause, teachings (doctrines) or person. We are all guilty of that at one point of our lives (maybe more). Its a man's heart that is corrupted. There are many who are judging based on bickering doctrines than God-centered fruitful lives.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

If benny is a flippant reference to Pope Benedict XVI, the answer to the subject line is no.

Oh.. I didn't see this post. So is Bene XVI the one the OP is referring to?

 

[chestertonrules]

Are you saying that because the remainder of the universal church rejects the Catholic church doctrines it will be much worse? Like how much worse? Is our salvation affected?

Disobedience to Jesus could jeopardize salvation.

If one's faith is built on a sincere seeking of Christ, then this doesn't apply.

However, if someone rejects the Church because they want a divorce and to remarry, or, if they reject the Church from personal pride or for personal comfort, etc., then a person could be chronically rejecting the will of God.

An ongoing act of defiance could impact one's salvation.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Disobedience to Jesus could jeopardize salvation.

If your faith is built on a sincere seeking of Christ, then this doesn't apply.

However, if you reject the Church because you want a divorce and to remarry, or, if you reject the Church from personal pride or comfort, etc., then a person could be chronically rejecting the will of God.

An ongoing act of defiance could impact your salvation.

Well at least you left out the "ignorance" part this time