Did benny deny the unam sanctum?

[mont974x4]

http://www.ourcatholicfaith.org/thepope.html

The doctrine of papal primacy upholds the divine authority of the Successor of St. Peter to rule over the entire Church with ordinary and immediate jurisdiction. Two Magisterial texts are key to understanding its supreme nature and the obligation of all who are not invincibly ignorant of this truth to submit to Papal authority for the sake of their salvation.
Pope Boniface VIII, in his Bull Unam Sanctum (1302), spelled out the doctrine of the necessity of the Church for salvation and with it the necessity of submission to the Roman Pontiff. Regarding the primacy of authority of Peter and his successors he stated:

But this authority, although it is given to man and is exercised by man, is not human, but rather divine, and has been given by the divine Word to Peter himself and to his successors in him, whom the Lord acknowledged an established rock, when he said to Peter himself: Whatsoever you shall bind etc. [Matt. 16:19]. Therefore, whosoever resists this power so ordained by God, resists the order of God [cf. Rom. 13:2] ... Furthermore, we declare, say, define, and proclaim to every human creature that they by necessity for salvation are entirely subject to the Roman Pontiff.



I have asked this a few times in other threads and have never gotten a straight answer. Has benny denied this statement in the unam sanctum?
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[Kristos]

who is benny?

 

[mont974x4]

the current pope

 

[TraderJack]

http://www.ourcatholicfaith.org/thepope.html

The doctrine of papal primacy upholds the divine authority of the Successor of St. Peter to rule over the entire Church with ordinary and immediate jurisdiction. Two Magisterial texts are key to understanding its supreme nature and the obligation of all who are not invincibly ignorant of this truth to submit to Papal authority for the sake of their salvation.

Pope Boniface VIII, in his Bull Unam Sanctum (1302), spelled out the doctrine of the necessity of the Church for salvation and with it the necessity of submission to the Roman Pontiff. Regarding the primacy of authority of Peter and his successors he stated:

But this authority, although it is given to man and is exercised by man, is not human, but rather divine, and has been given by the divine Word to Peter himself and to his successors in him, whom the Lord acknowledged an established rock, when he said to Peter himself: Whatsoever you shall bind etc. [Matt. 16:19]. Therefore, whosoever resists this power so ordained by God, resists the order of God [cf. Rom. 13:2] ... Furthermore, we declare, say, define, and proclaim to every human creature that they by necessity for salvation are entirely subject to the Roman Pontiff.​

I have asked this a few times in other threads and have never gotten a straight answer. Has benny denied this statement in the unam sanctum?​

A "straight answer"??? LOL.

That thar bees in the category of questions that weuns in these here parts calls, "being stuck between a rock and a hard place".

 

[myfavoritmartin]

Hinn or 16 I get them confused...

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

A "straight answer"??? LOL.

That thar bees in the category of questions that weuns in these here parts calls, "being stuck between a rock and a hard place".

Honey is good for yas.

 

[intricatic]

I dunno, I don't really pay much attention to what the Pope says or does.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

I dunno, I don't really pay much attention to what the Pope says or does.

You also?

http://foru.ms/t5805969&page=74
What would it take for Orthodoxs to come under Pope

quote: The Pope would renounce his Roman Catholicism and become Orthodox. There is nothing that would cause the Church as a whole to join with him.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Hinn or 16 I get them confused...

Good question. Did ya ask them on the OBOB board? Peace

http://christianforums.com/t6926307-call-to-boycott-gt.html

 

[mont974x4]

Thanks for the link on the boycott.

I started this thread a few days before that started.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Thanks for the link on the boycott.

I started this thread a few days before that started.

I think the boycott ended by now.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Shameless bump

The Pope


The doctrine of papal primacy upholds the divine authority of the Successor of St. Peter to rule over the entire Church with ordinary and immediate jurisdiction. Two Magisterial texts are key to understanding its supreme nature and the obligation of all who are not invincibly ignorant of this truth to submit to Papal authority for the sake of their salvation.
Pope Boniface VIII, in his Bull Unam Sanctum (1302), spelled out the doctrine of the necessity of the Church for salvation and with it the necessity of submission to the Roman Pontiff. Regarding the primacy of authority of Peter and his successors he stated:

But this authority, although it is given to man and is exercised by man, is not human, but rather divine, and has been given by the divine Word to Peter himself and to his successors in him, whom the Lord acknowledged an established rock, when he said to Peter himself: Whatsoever you shall bind etc. [Matt. 16:19]. Therefore, whosoever resists this power so ordained by God, resists the order of God [cf. Rom. 13:2] ... Furthermore, we declare, say, define, and proclaim to every human creature that they by necessity for salvation are entirely subject to the Roman Pontiff.



I have asked this a few times in other threads and have never gotten a straight answer. Has benny denied this statement in the unam sanctum?
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[LittleLambofJesus]

I decided to bring this quote from another thread to this one since it concerns this particular topic

Here you go...i try to always be a man of my word.
JP2 a dozen years ago confirmed unam sanctum...

All Salvation Comes through Christ
Since Christ brings about salvation through his Mystical Body, which is the Church, the way of salvation is connected essentially with the Church.
The axiom extra ecclesiam nulla salus"--"outside the Church there is no salvation"--stated by St. Cyprian (Epist. 73, 21; PL 1123 AB), belongs to the Christian tradition. It was included in the Fourth Lateran Council (DS 802), in the Bull Unam Sanctam of Boniface VIII (DS 870) and the Council of Florence (Decretum pro Jacobitis, DS 1351).

 

[MrPolo]

If benny is a flippant reference to Pope Benedict XVI, the answer to the subject line is no.

 

[bbbbbbb]

The answer would have to be no because it is utterly impossible for a Pope to alter God's truth as given by previous Popes, even when it contradicts God's truth given by previous other Popes.

 

[chestertonrules]

I have asked this a few times in other threads and have never gotten a straight answer. Has benny denied this statement in the unam sanctum?
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Unam Sanctum stands. All are subject to the keys to the kingdom, whether they are ignorant of this fact or not.

Benedict is speaking of those who are seeking to follow Jesus to the best of their ability.

They too subsist within the Church and are subject to the promises of Jesus even if they are ignorant of this truth.

 

[mont974x4]

nevermind the fact that the popes are ignorant of the truth that we do not have to submit to their tyranny in order to be saved. The unam sanctum is biblically unsound and should be, therefore, discarded like any other false teaching.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

nevermind the fact that the popes are ignorant of the truth that we do not have to submit to their tyranny in order to be saved. The unam sanctum is biblically unsound and should be, therefore, discarded like any other false teaching.

Unam Sanctum was written by an Idiot.

Forgive me...

Hi Ortho! Long time no see. How have you been doing since your illness bro

 

[chestertonrules]

nevermind the fact that the popes are ignorant of the truth that we do not have to submit to their tyranny in order to be saved. The unam sanctum is biblically unsound and should be, therefore, discarded like any other false teaching.

Some verses seem to be missing from your bible:

17Jesus replied, "Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by man, but by my Father in heaven. 18And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it. 19I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven."

John 20
21Again Jesus said, "Peace be with you! As the Father has sent me, I am sending you." 22And with that he breathed on them and said, "Receive the Holy Spirit. 23If you forgive anyone his sins, they are forgiven; if you do not forgive them, they are not forgiven."

1 Timothy 3
15if I am delayed, you will know how people ought to conduct themselves in God's household, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the truth.

Luke 10
16"He who listens to you listens to me; he who rejects you rejects me; but he who rejects me rejects him who sent me."

 

[MrPolo]

They too subsist within the Church and are subject to the promises of Jesus even if they are ignorant of this truth.

Exactly.