The Bible silent on pre-marital sex?

[Thaeoles]

I couldn't find anything that remotely says anything about being 'married in the eyes of God' in the Bible.

 

[elephunky]

I have read it with my own eyes

 

[rcorlew]

I think that people are trying to "read out" certain parts of the Bible. There was a marital ceremony all the way back to Genesis and here is some of the proof:

Matthew 24:38 For as they were in the days before the flood: eating, and drinking, marrying, and giving in marriage, until the day when Noah went into the ark.

Deuteronomy 24:1 When a man has taken a wife and married her, and it happens that she finds no favor in his eyes because he has found a thing of uncleanness in her, and he writes her a bill of divorce and puts it in her hand, and sends her out of his house;

And now in the New Testament

Luke 14:20 And another said, I married a wife, and for this reason I am not able to come.

Romans 7:2 For the married woman was bound by Law to the living husband; but if the husband dies, she is set free from the Law of the husband.

1Co 7:10 But I command the ones being married (not I, but the Lord), that a woman is not to be separated from her husband;

1Co 7:39 A wife is bound by law for as long a time as her husband lives; but if her husband sleeps, she is free to be married to whomever she desires, only in the Lord.

So much for the theory of no ceremony and law regarding marriage in the Bible, and just to top it off here is Jesus first miracle at a wedding:

John 2:9 But when the master of the feast tasted the water that had become wine, and did not know from where it was (but the servants drawing the water knew), the master of the feast called the bridegroom,

So they were married in very much the same way we are today, both ceremonially and legally.

Job 31:1 I made a covenant with my eyes; how then could I look intently on a virgin?

Job 31:9 If my heart has been enticed by a woman; or I have laid wait at my neighbor's door,
Job 31:10 let my wife grind to another, and let others crouch over her.
Job 31:11 For that would be an evil scheme, and is iniquity for judges.

Revelation 2:22 Behold, I am throwing her into a bed, and into great affliction those committing adultery with her, unless they repent of their works.

I think the case rests.

 

[Zebra1552]

Im at work right now so Im not gonna spend 20 minutes looking for a bible passage.

It also requires a lot of money and is in my opinion unneccessary

Fancy weddings require a lot of money. Not quiet weddings, and quiet weddings are at the discretion of the couple. Anyway, isn't it the parents who usually pay to some degree?

I have read it with my own eyes

And I've read everything but the minor prophets with my own eyes and didn't see it anywhere. See, now we have a duel of claims. That gets us nowhere.

 

[daydreamergurl15]

Okay, so I went to www.gateway.com and searched "eyes, God" and I found a lot of "eyes of the LORD your God". The only verses I've found that pertains to marriage, is in the NIV. I do not read the NIV, but NKJV didn't quote this verse with that phrase, it used "abomination before the LORD". Anyways, I hope this helps you Godschild87

Deut. 24:1-5

1 If a man marries a woman who becomes displeasing to him because he finds something indecent about her, and he writes her a certificate of divorce, gives it to her and sends her from his house, 2 and if after she leaves his house she becomes the wife of another man, 3 and her second husband dislikes her and writes her a certificate of divorce, gives it to her and sends her from his house, or if he dies, 4 then her first husband, who divorced her, is not allowed to marry her again after she has been defiled. That would be detestable in the eyes of the LORD. Do not bring sin upon the land the LORD your God is giving you as an inheritance.

5 If a man has recently married, he must not be sent to war or have any other duty laid on him. For one year he is to be free to stay at home and bring happiness to the wife he has married.

On a completely different subject, I love verse 5, the man should bring happiness to the wife he has married. Oh....if only we were under that particular law.

 

[Zebra1552]

Okay, so I went to www.gateway.com and searched "eyes, God" and I found a lot of "eyes of the LORD your God". The only verses I've found that pertains to marriage, is in the NIV. I do not read the NIV, but NKJV didn't quote this verse with that phrase, it used "abomination before the LORD". Anyways, I hope this helps you Godschild87

Deut. 24:1-5


On a completely different subject, I love verse 5, the man should bring happiness to the wife he has married. Oh....if only we were under that particular law.

If there is nothing in the Bible separating legal and Godly marriage, we must then assume they are one in the same.

 

[elephunky]

I read NIV, its where i read the verse that I was referring to, Im having trouble finding it again.

 

[daydreamergurl15]

If there is nothing in the Bible separating legal and Godly marriage, we must then assume they are one in the same.

I didn't say they were different. I was just pointing out the only verse I found that dealt with marriage that had "The eyes of the LORD". And if you read it, it's not really something that is going to make you warm and fuzzy inside.

 

[Zebra1552]

I didn't say they were different. I was just pointing out the only verse I found that dealt with marriage that had "The eyes of the LORD". And if you read it, it's not really something that is going to make you warm and fuzzy inside.

No, you didn't. Another user, however, did, and the statement applies there too.

 

[daydreamergurl15]

No, you didn't. Another user, however, did, and the statement applies there too.

The verse I wrote was to help your argument because I agree with you but mostly because what you said is biblical. And that's the only verse I could find that included "eyes of the LORD" and marriage together.

 

[Zebra1552]

Funny how people tend to stop posting when they think they're being 'ganged up' on.

 

[rcorlew]

Funny how I put up about 8 verses that shows that the ceremonial weddings were performed and those marriages were legal and bound believers in that marriage and this was spoke of by Jesus at the sermon on the mount.

No one even pays attention, don't let evidence stand in the way of a good argument.

 

[Zebra1552]

Funny how I put up about 8 verses that shows that the ceremonial weddings were performed and those marriages were legal and bound believers in that marriage and this was spoke of by Jesus at the sermon on the mount.

No one even pays attention, don't let evidence stand in the way of a good argument.

What, you mean this evidence:

I think that people are trying to "read out" certain parts of the Bible. There was a marital ceremony all the way back to Genesis and here is some of the proof:

Matthew 24:38 For as they were in the days before the flood: eating, and drinking, marrying, and giving in marriage, until the day when Noah went into the ark.

Deuteronomy 24:1 When a man has taken a wife and married her, and it happens that she finds no favor in his eyes because he has found a thing of uncleanness in her, and he writes her a bill of divorce and puts it in her hand, and sends her out of his house;

And now in the New Testament

Luke 14:20 And another said, I married a wife, and for this reason I am not able to come.

Romans 7:2 For the married woman was bound by Law to the living husband; but if the husband dies, she is set free from the Law of the husband.

1Co 7:10 But I command the ones being married (not I, but the Lord), that a woman is not to be separated from her husband;

1Co 7:39 A wife is bound by law for as long a time as her husband lives; but if her husband sleeps, she is free to be married to whomever she desires, only in the Lord.

So much for the theory of no ceremony and law regarding marriage in the Bible, and just to top it off here is Jesus first miracle at a wedding:

John 2:9 But when the master of the feast tasted the water that had become wine, and did not know from where it was (but the servants drawing the water knew), the master of the feast called the bridegroom,

So they were married in very much the same way we are today, both ceremonially and legally.

Job 31:1 I made a covenant with my eyes; how then could I look intently on a virgin?

Job 31:9 If my heart has been enticed by a woman; or I have laid wait at my neighbor's door,
Job 31:10 let my wife grind to another, and let others crouch over her.
Job 31:11 For that would be an evil scheme, and is iniquity for judges.

Revelation 2:22 Behold, I am throwing her into a bed, and into great affliction those committing adultery with her, unless they repent of their works.

I think the case rests.

Your verses don't establish a difference between 'marriage in God's eyes' and legal marriage. The case indeed rests.

 

[daydreamergurl15]

What, you mean this evidence:


Your verses don't establish a difference between 'marriage in God's eyes' and legal marriage. The case indeed rests.

Again, rcorlew is agreeing with you Godschild. He is saying that they are one in the same.

 

[rcorlew]

Yes godchild, I agree with you, they are one in the same.

 

[Zebra1552]

Again, rcorlew is agreeing with you Godschild. He is saying that they are one in the same.

That was my point in saying 'the case indeed rests'. We don't disagree, so I feel no need to respond to his post and wasn't talking about him when I said:
Funny how people tend to stop posting when they think they're being 'ganged up' on.

That's why I said 'the case indeed rests'.

 

[elephunky]

Funny how people tend to stop posting when they think they're being 'ganged up' on.

Was that aimed at me?

 

[Zebra1552]

Was that aimed at me?

In part.

 

[elephunky]

No means to be rude, but I do have a life, I dont sit on forums waiting for a response to my post. I only go on the working week during the day

 

[Zebra1552]

No means to be rude, but I do have a life, I dont sit on forums waiting for a response to my post. I only go on the working week during the day

So because my main ministry is here in the forums I don't have a life? Gosh I hope that's not what you just said.