Pope: Saving world from homosexuality like saving rainforests

[angellica]

Well, David and Jonathan certainly are mentioned in the bible.
But be that as it may - computers are not mentioned in the bible.
You are certainly making use of one now. Since it is not condoned, are you going to hell?

As I said before, computers were not invented yet. Homosexual sex did exist, and was condemned.

Romans 1:24-28

"Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator--who is forever praised. Amen. Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion. Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done."

 

[angellica]

The bible does not condemn it.

Romans 1:24-28

"Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator--who is forever praised. Amen. Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion. Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done."

 

[Nihilismus]

Have you realized that it is irrelevant either way yet?

 

[OphidiaPhile]

If it was okay to be homosexual with ONE person, it would say so. It doesn't say that anywhere in the Bible that being gay is okay if you're only gay with one person. And I am not your darlin' so don't talk down to me with terms like that. I find it patronizing.

It does not say that being heterosexual with a few hundred people is good but that does not mean it is bad or against the law. I have married friends that have weekly group sex and it is ok for them to do.

 

[ChaliceThunder]

Electricity was not discovered at that time. Homosexual behavior did occur, and was condemned.

No it was not.
You have failed to read in context.
And it's getting old.

 

[angellica]

It does not say that being heterosexual with a few hundred people is of but that does not mean it is bad or against the law. I have married friends that have weekly group sex and it is ok for them to do.

Not according to the Bible.

 

[angellica]

No it was not.
You have failed to read in context.
And it's getting old.

The context is that men were having sex with men and God did not condone it. He calls it a sin.

Romans 1:24-28

"Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator--who is forever praised. Amen. Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion. Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done."

 

[Paulos23]

Not according to the Bible.

So what? That doesn't make it illegal.

 

[SiderealExalt]

Wow thanks for angellica clearing up for me that Christianity over the years has condemned homosexuality. I mean I didn't know that.

 

[ChaliceThunder]

The context is that men were having sex with men and God did not condone it. He calls it a sin.

Romans 1:24-28

"Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator--who is forever praised. Amen. Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion. Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done."

That is not the context, and you know it.

Your intellectual dishonesty does not speak well of your Christianity.

 

[Nihilismus]

The context is that men were having sex with men and God did not condone it. He calls it a sin.

God never struck me as the jealous type.

 

[WatersMoon110]

Electricity was not discovered at that time. Homosexual behavior did occur, and was condemned.

But the behavior happened in a far different context then, our society is different in many ways from Roman society back then.

Jesus told us to love our neighbors as we love ourselves. I do not see any loving action in deny rights to homosexuals, or (for that matter) in condemning homosexuality.

Have you never met a loving same sex couple? I know and have known many couples, and many of them have the exact same sort of true romantic love that I feel for my husband.

The loving God that I know, that I have experienced could not condemn the love that two humans feel for one another. And, frankly, even if I did agree with your interpretation of Paul (which I do not) I feel that reality (as I experience it) disagrees with that interpretation.

 

[angellica]

Wow thanks for angellica clearing up for me that Christianity over the years has condemned homosexuality. I mean I didn't know that.

Actually, God condemned it so it follows that Christianity would condemn it.

 

[angellica]

But the behavior happened in a far different context then, our society is different in many ways from Roman society back then.

Jesus told us to love our neighbors as we love ourselves. I do not see any loving action in deny rights to homosexuals, or (for that matter) in condemning homosexuality.

Have you never met a loving same sex couple? I know and have known many couples, and many of them have the exact same sort of true romantic love that I feel for my husband.

The loving God that I know, that I have experienced could not condemn the love that two humans feel for one another. And, frankly, even if I did agree with your interpretation of Paul (which I do not) I feel that reality (as I experience it) disagrees with that interpretation.

I refuse to reject that part of the Bible just because of pity for a gay couple.

 

[WatersMoon110]

Actually, God condemned it so it follows that Christianity would condemn it.

The God of the Old Testament also condemned shellfish - but Christianity does not (generally).

 

[angellica]

That is not the context, and you know it.

Your intellectual dishonesty does not speak well of your Christianity.

Then what is the context?

 

[OphidiaPhile]

Actually, God condemned it so it follows that Christianity would condemn it.

And yet no one has proven that god exists or that the bible is his/hers/its word, it is more likely a tool used by ancient scribes to control the masses.

 

[WatersMoon110]

I refuse to reject that part of the Bible just because of pity for a gay couple.

"That part of the Bible"? Are there parts of the Bible you do reject?

 

[ChaliceThunder]

I refuse to reject that part of the Bible just because of pity for a gay couple.

Jesus spoke so often to and challenged the hard-hearted Pharisees.
Can you hear him?

 

[angellica]

The God of the Old Testament also condemned shellfish - but Christianity does not (generally).

Ahh, the familiar shellfish talking point. That was for tribes in the OT regarding ceremonial laws and tribal laws, not so with homosexuality.