Pope: Saving world from homosexuality like saving rainforests

[Nihilismus]

Any opinion of the book is invalid in terms of U.S. legislation...

 

[angellica]

And when we read the verse above that it explains:
Romans 1:21-23
"For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles."

Paul is obviously talking about Christians ("for although they knew God") and what did they do? They exchanged God for: "images made to look like mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles." Therefore He allowed those Christians to participate in Roman Sex Rites - which often involved sex acts between people of the same gender.

Speaking of not looking at things in context...

Right, they turned from God and started participating in sinful acts. They turned away from Him and toward their sin.

 

[ChaliceThunder]

If it was okay to be homosexual with ONE person, it would say so. It doesn't say that anywhere in the Bible that being gay is okay if you're only gay with one person. And I am not your darlin' so don't talk down to me with terms like that. I find it patronizing.

I'm not trying to be patronizing.
I'm trying to lessen the blow for you.
You really MUST try reading scripture in context some day.
It will do your spirit a world of good.

 

[angellica]

----- We need to pray for The Church like never before.

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[morningstar2651]

Some of us still practice ritual sex...which is most likely what Paul is referring to.

 

[Polycarp_fan]

Originally Posted by angellica Romans 1:24-28

"Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator--who is forever praised. Amen. Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion. Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done."

This passage has NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with faithful, monogamous gay relationships.

Context, darlin'. Context!

Well snookums, if you are seeking "context" there is no such thing as "gay relationships" in Christian doctrine, scripture or culture.

"Gay," is a neologism to describe homosexuality.

That being the case, you are wrong. In context that is, from cover to cover of the Bible.

Monogamous or promiscuous, homosexual (Gay) relationships are no where supported, promoted or condoned in scripture and in context.

 

[angellica]

I'm not trying to be patronizing.
I'm trying to lessen the blow for you.
You really MUST try reading scripture in context some day.
It will do your spirit a world of good.

I've shown you where He says homosexuality is wrong/a sin. You have not shown me where He says anything about gay marriage or men getting married or women getting married or homosexuality being okay. The fact is you can't, because the Bible does not condone it.

 

[Polycarp_fan]

and

When preaching repentance is hate, bigotry and phobia, you know the gates of hell are opening wide, not just to allow people in, but to unleash it on The Church.

PM for what to do about it.

 

[WatersMoon110]

Right, they turned from God and started participating in sinful acts. They turned away from Him and toward their sin.

But the sin was not being in a committed, loving relationship with someone of the same gender. Their sin was in participating in worship of Roman gods, which often involved sexual acts as part of it.

What we have today - two people of the same gender who love one another and wish to cement their bond with a legal union (and most likely a ceremony) - isn't mentioned anywhere in the Bible. It isn't condoned, it isn't condemned, it just isn't mentioned.

 

[ChaliceThunder]

Well snookums, if you are seeking "context" there is no such thing as "gay relationships" in Christian doctrine, scripture or culture.

Wrong, studmuffin.
Gay relationships abound in Christian culture.
They always have, and they always will.
Get used to it, because we are not deserting the gospel of Christ.

"Gay," is a neologism to describe homosexuality.

Back to you old tune, I see.
Neologism, schmeeologism.
You just hate the fact that Christ, by his precious sacrifice, has made us worthy to stand before him. It gets you down! Real Christians would rejoice over such news!

 

[Nihilismus]

Some of us still practice ritual sex...

 

[ChaliceThunder]

I've shown you where He says homosexuality is wrong/a sin. You have not shown me where He says anything about gay marriage or men getting married or women getting married or homosexuality being okay. The fact is you can't, because the Bible does not condone it.

The bible does not condemn it.

 

[WatersMoon110]

If it was okay to be homosexual with ONE person, it would say so. It doesn't say that anywhere in the Bible that being gay is okay if you're only gay with one person. And I am not your darlin' so don't talk down to me with terms like that. I find it patronizing.

By that logic, since the Bible never condones using electricity, all Christians should become Amish.

 

[Garyzenuf]

When preaching repentance is hate, bigotry and phobia, you know the gates of hell are opening wide, not just to allow people in, but to unleash it on The Church.

PM for what to do about it.

Yes, because there is an "agenda", to become aware of.

*

 

[angellica]

Wrong, studmuffin.
Gay relationships abound in Christian culture.
They always have, and they always will.
Get used to it, because we are not deserting the gospel of Christ.


Back to you old tune, I see.
Neologism, schmeeologism.
You just hate the fact that Christ, by his precious sacrifice, has made us worthy to stand before him. It gets you down! Real Christians would rejoice over such news!

Then why are they not mentioned in the Bible?

 

[OphidiaPhile]

Without knowing what the Bible says and the context it is used in you can't determine if a persons stance is valid or not.

Science and Psychology say it is an invalid opinion and they trump the bible in every circumstance.

 

[angellica]

By that logic, since the Bible never condones using electricity, all Christians should become Amish.

Electricity was not discovered at that time. Homosexual behavior did occur, and was condemned.

 

[ChaliceThunder]

Then why are they not mentioned in the Bible?

Well, David and Jonathan certainly are mentioned in the bible.
But be that as it may - computers are not mentioned in the bible.
You are certainly making use of one now. Since it is not condoned, are you going to hell?

 

[ChaliceThunder]

By the way, something beloved of God does not necessarily need to be mentioned in the bible.

There is nothing you can do or say to remove God's blessing from our 24 year relationship. It is built on the firm foundation of Christ, and will last as long as we live, and into eternity - because God has blessed it, over and over again.

 

[OphidiaPhile]

Fair enough, for you.



Vague? "Extremely vague?"

Not even close pal. If you can understand sentence structure in a Mad Magazine, you can see the plain reality of this :



And what is He (Jesus) talking about? He is referencing Genesis, not just arguing with political appointees.

It was about something that divorce breaks apart. That would be a MARRIAGE.

A MARRIAGE consisting of a man and a woman. The ONLY form of "marriage" there is.

That is what we call "in context," when we read Bible stuff. And here it is further . . .

"Why then," they asked, "did Moses command that a man give his wife a certificate of divorce and send her away?"

That's just about as unvague as it gets. And most certainly, absolutely, UN "extremely vague."

This Pope is just saying what a Christian only can say about "marriage." You may think the Bible is worthless, but you should be honest about what it does describe in detail.

What is EXTREMELY vague, to the point of impossiblilty to be established, . . . is gay theology.

The next major issue of contention next for the historic Christian Church, is dealing with this so-called Gay and Lesbian Christian movement.


----- We need to pray for The Church like never before.

Books on mythology mean nothing in the context of society or law the only context they matter in is how you desire them to control your life and since their are many books on mythology you can even pick parts of different ones.