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Emma Watson (HP's Hermione Granger) says she would get naked for the right role

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It's absurd that violence and gore somehow get a lower rating that nudity and sex in our culture.

There's nothing inherently wrong with nudity at all. As an actor I'd be comfortable with anything up to full rear nudity but that's more about my own self consciousness than any ethical oppositions.

Keep in mind that Emma Watson is over 18 and that Britain's attitudes to sex are a little less puritanical than the US.
 
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There is a lower standard for violence because there are good reasons to attack people and it is quite exciting to witness violence on your TV screen. Of course Saving Private Ryan was violent but it was all in the name of a good cause: defeating fascism.

Nudity is generally unnecessary. I do not need to see nipples to understand that sex has transpired between two characters.

If you want to see naked women, you should consider using your internet. You can not only see nude women but you can even see them doing all sorts of interesting things.

I do not think it is necessary for my entertainment to see nudity in some normal film. It is distracting and I am just not that interested in arousing my sexual feelings during a film, nor am I interested in the sexual feelings of pre-teens and young teens being aroused in my presence.

So why?

Nudity can be artistic but I think that belongs more in paintings.
 
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There is a lower standard for violence because there are good reasons to attack people and it is quite exciting to witness violence on your TV screen. Of course Saving Private Ryan was violent but it was all in the name of a good cause: defeating fascism.

Nudity is generally unnecessary. I do not need to see nipples to understand that sex has transpired between two characters.

If you want to see naked women, you should consider using your internet. You can not only see nude women but you can even see them doing all sorts of interesting things.

I do not think it is necessary for my entertainment to see nudity in some normal film. It is distracting and I am just not that interested in arousing my sexual feelings during a film, nor am I interested in the sexual feelings of pre-teens and young teens being aroused in my presence.

So why?

Nudity can be artistic but I think that belongs more in paintings.
You remind me of the American family that was sitting right in front of me in the cinema, watching "Starship Troopers". The kid of the family was in his early teens at best, yet his parents didn't seem to mind that he was subjected to images of torn-off limbs, disemboweled and dismembered bodies, violence, gore, the whole nine yards. This, in itself, disgusted me pretty much. But then, there was this tiny, utterly harmless love scene that involved some partial nudity on the part of the female actress, and all of a sudden, the concerned American parents went: "Oh Jimmy, cover your eyes and don'T open them again until we tell you to!"

Insanity. Plain insanity.
 
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There is a lower standard for violence because there are good reasons to attack people and it is quite exciting to witness violence on your TV screen. Of course Saving Private Ryan was violent but it was all in the name of a good cause: defeating fascism.

Nudity is generally unnecessary. I do not need to see nipples to understand that sex has transpired between two characters.
You don't need to see limbs blown off to understand a beach landing occurred either.
I do not think it is necessary for my entertainment to see nudity in some normal film. It is distracting and I am just not that interested in arousing my sexual feelings during a film, nor am I interested in the sexual feelings of pre-teens and young teens being aroused in my presence.
So you can't see naked people without becoming aroused?
 
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I must have forgot... Movies made in other countries and cultures MUST conform to American standards in order to be acceptable.

What are movies supposed to do? Just ignore the fact that in other cultures nudity isn't seen as a super-sexual "Oh, look, nipples, I'm thinking dirty thoughts!" issue?

There are appropriate times for nudity in films; there are appropriate times for violence. But too often the goal of Hollywood filmmaking is just to entertain with bland, predictable shock or boring, pottymouth humour, and not to entertain by engaging plots, by informing, by engaging the audience, by presenting emotional truths, by presenting history, or other artistic goals.
 
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I do not need to see nipples to understand that sex has transpired between two characters.

I'll assume you mean female nipples.
How on earth do seeing nipples equate with having sex? I see nipples every day and I'm not having any...
The double standards of american morality continue to mystify me. I would rather see nudity as a normal and every day phenomenon, not violence!
 
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I'll assume you mean female nipples.
How on earth do seeing nipples equate with having sex? I see nipples every day and I'm not having any...
The double standards of american morality continue to mystify me. I would rather see nudity as a normal and every day phenomenon, not violence!
Heh. We are talking about people who wear swimsuits and -trunks in the sauna, Veyrlian. Hullu maailma!
 
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*blink* so they didn't get upset with the shower nude scene with the same woman earlier in the movie?

You remind me of the American family that was sitting right in front of me in the cinema, watching "Starship Troopers". The kid of the family was in his early teens at best, yet his parents didn't seem to mind that he was subjected to images of torn-off limbs, disemboweled and dismembered bodies, violence, gore, the whole nine yards. This, in itself, disgusted me pretty much. But then, there was this tiny, utterly harmless love scene that involved some partial nudity on the part of the female actress, and all of a sudden, the concerned American parents went: "Oh Jimmy, cover your eyes and don'T open them again until we tell you to!"

Insanity. Plain insanity.
 
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You remind me of the American family that was sitting right in front of me in the cinema, watching "Starship Troopers". The kid of the family was in his early teens at best, yet his parents didn't seem to mind that he was subjected to images of torn-off limbs, disemboweled and dismembered bodies, violence, gore, the whole nine yards. This, in itself, disgusted me pretty much. But then, there was this tiny, utterly harmless love scene that involved some partial nudity on the part of the female actress, and all of a sudden, the concerned American parents went: "Oh Jimmy, cover your eyes and don'T open them again until we tell you to!"

Insanity. Plain insanity.

A lot of gore is cartoony. I would be more upset if it seemed like more realistic gore like... I do not know. In the Goodfellahs when he takes the pistol to the guys face over and over again.

I'd probably have no problem with my kid seeing violence but I would prefer them not to see nudity.

I am an American. :)

You don't need to see limbs blown off to understand a beach landing occurred either.
So you can't see naked people without becoming aroused?

I can, but I prefer not to.

Usually the naked people in the movies were chosen to be naked because they are sexy. Usually their nudity acomodates a sexy scene.

Do you watch movies, Tenka?

I must have forgot... Movies made in other countries and cultures MUST conform to American standards in order to be acceptable.

What are movies supposed to do? Just ignore the fact that in other cultures nudity isn't seen as a super-sexual "Oh, look, nipples, I'm thinking dirty thoughts!" issue?

There are appropriate times for nudity in films; there are appropriate times for violence. But too often the goal of Hollywood filmmaking is just to entertain with bland, predictable shock or boring, pottymouth humour, and not to entertain by engaging plots, by informing, by engaging the audience, by presenting emotional truths, by presenting history, or other artistic goals.

You are right. A lot of American films are bad.

Also, most of the world already copies and imitates America in every single way. What do you expect?

They imitate us because it is good -- not because we tell them to.

I'll assume you mean female nipples.
How on earth do seeing nipples equate with having sex? I see nipples every day and I'm not having any...
The double standards of american morality continue to mystify me. I would rather see nudity as a normal and every day phenomenon, not violence!

The only context I ever see other adults nude in is in the context of intercourse.

So I associate nudity with intercourse.

Few films have nude scenes that are non-suggesive of impending sexy times.
 
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You remind me of the American family that was sitting right in front of me in the cinema, watching "Starship Troopers". The kid of the family was in his early teens at best, yet his parents didn't seem to mind that he was subjected to images of torn-off limbs, disemboweled and dismembered bodies, violence, gore, the whole nine yards. This, in itself, disgusted me pretty much. But then, there was this tiny, utterly harmless love scene that involved some partial nudity on the part of the female actress, and all of a sudden, the concerned American parents went: "Oh Jimmy, cover your eyes and don'T open them again until we tell you to!"

Insanity. Plain insanity.

I agree. I don't like and can't deal with violence in movies, not even when it's supposed to be funny. It literally makes me ill.

Just the other day my SO made me watch "The Princess Bride" and I even found the Pit Of Despair scene in that movie, which is supposed to be humorous, very disturbing. I don't like the idea of people being mutilated, tortured, maimed. I have no clue how anyone can sit through a movie like Saw. Just purely disgusting.

And yeah, the same parents who will let their kids watch Saw get all uptight about the sight of a naked body if it isn't being mutilated and tortured in some way. Disturbing.
 
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Which raises the question: Is nudity or even semi-nudity (not talking any sexual activity) in movies now perfectly acceptable? Should tasteful nudity now merit a PG or even a G rating?

It's acceptable outside the US :) I have no issue with my children seeing a film where the actors appear nude - providing said actors are not engaging in sexual activity. On a similar note I don't mind my children viewing moderate violence as in LOTR battle scenes but I draw the line at gore fests.
 
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Which raises the question: Is nudity or even semi-nudity (not talking any sexual activity) in movies now perfectly acceptable? Should tasteful nudity now merit a PG or even a G rating?
This is obviously proof that God does exist. Excuse me while I go change my faith icon. ;)
 
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The ridiculous thing about breasts is that western culture has completely over-sexualised them. In societies where women tend to go topless or with very little covering, men don't care much about breasts and are more aroused by women's backsides. Your daily interesting anthropological fact has now been transmitted =p


EDIT: Also, the violence is apparently cartoonish, but the sex isn't? Wow.
 
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The only context I ever see other adults nude in is in the context of intercourse.

So I associate nudity with intercourse.

Few films have nude scenes that are non-suggesive of impending sexy times

This is prudish and silly. There must be times when you see other people naked. Showering after physical exercise? The beach?
 
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Which raises the question: Is nudity or even semi-nudity (not talking any sexual activity) in movies now perfectly acceptable? Should tasteful nudity now merit a PG or even a G rating?

First, let just say [Homer voice] Emma Wastson, Mmmmmm [/Homer voice]. Yes, I am a dirty old man.

Now, on to the OP. I believe it is an odd conflation of the puritanical hold over of the Victorian period and the view that violence is an acceptable method of solving problems. I wonder how much is a hold over from our national pride from WW2?
 
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Keep in mind that Emma Watson is over 18 and that Britain's attitudes to sex are a little less puritanical than the US.

If they are less puritanical then why does the daily mail say:

The news will shock fans who have watched her grown up as Hermione Granger in the series of JK Rowling adaptations and still think of her as a child.

Apparently the daily mail believes their readers to be as silly about the fact that someone might consider a nude soon no matter where they are. Why would the question even be posed if the idea of nudity didn't get some of their own readers all worked up?

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In terms of what my kids might view:
I am more concerned about violence for the sake of gore than I am about nudity. I am more concerned about how relationships are portrayed and how women and men are treated in the plot line than I am about limited and not particularly graphic sex scenes.

In terms of what I view- I don't care for violence and gore -- and it bugs me that the target audience for incredibly violent films is generally adolescent males, which means women also tend to get portrayed quite unpleasantly to go with the violence.

Nudity just for the sake of putting breasts on screen usually screws up the story, but carefully covering everything up can be as distracting to a scene as well.. and oh my gosh.. mens penises are apparently like the face of God since the industry seems to think we would fall down dead should we ever see one.
 
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If they are less puritanical then why does the daily mail say:



Apparently the daily mail believes their readers to be as silly about the fact that someone might consider a nude soon no matter where they are. Why would the question even be posed if the idea of nudity didn't get some of their own readers all worked up?
If you paid attention to what Ryal Kane had written you would have seen he said "Britain's attitudes to sex are a little less puritanical than the US." And even "less puritanical" does not eliminate puritanical attitudes altogether, which leaves plenty of room for those who would be "silly about the fact," or even "all worked up."
 
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I think people fail to understand the concept of implication.

If, for example, the nudity is in art form or non-sexual context - than yeah, maybe they can get away with a PG rating.

But if a nude Emma Watson is straddling Harry's lap - keep that PG-13 and up. That's kind of the reason for having the ratings in the first place.
 
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