I wouldn't call a link to a conservative groups overhyped claims urging parents to remove their kids from school as evidence. Though even they have problems maintaining the hyperbole, as at times they admit the bills are nothing more than "
"anti-harassment" education" (though why they feel the need to put "anti-harassment" in quotes is strange). If you read the actual text of the bills, it is not a promotion of homosexuality but simply that people are not to be discriminated against.
from the brave souls at MassResistance a ten-year old film shown in public schools:
http://www.massresistance.org/media/video/brainwashing.html
Odd, even they admit that it is a "training film" for "homosexual activist teachers". They claim it has been shown in schools around the country -- yet they do not say if it is 2 schools (one in Massachusetts and one in California) or more than that. If it were more than a handful, I'm sure they'd mention it was "commonly" or "frequently" shown. As such, their claim is weak and not supported. Not to mention that Massresistance is a
known hate group.
They do claim that it is shown at "homosexual teacher conferences", as such I doubt that many teachers have actually seen either these films. In fact, I'd guess many times more people have seen this on Massresistance's website than have ever seen it in school or in a teachers conference. This is far from evidence that Christians have no rights, that homosexuals have access to our schools, etc.
I have been to public schools. You don't need to even mention homosexuality to stop bullying. In fact assaul and threatening behavior has been illegal for a very long time.
Odd, then, that surveys find that gay students (and people who others perceive to be gay) are far more likely to be bullied. In fact, a 2004 survey of California schools found that 46% of
all students said their schools were not safe for gay students.
Further, schools that teach not to discriminate and have non-discrimination policies that include homosexual students are
less likely to have bullying and the problems associated with bullying:
HOW IS SCHOOL CLIMATE DIFFERENT in schools with harassment policies that specify
sexual orientation or gender expression?
• Students from schools with an inclusive policy are less likely to report a serious harassment
problem at their school (33% vs. 44%).
• Students from schools with an inclusive policy report that others are less often harassed in their
school because of their sexual orientation (32% vs. 43%) or their gender expression (26% vs.
37%).
• Students from schools with an inclusive policy are also more likely to feel very safe at school
(54% vs. 36%).
HOW DOES TRUANCY DIFFER in schools with harassment policies that specify sexual
orientation or gender expression?
• Students from schools with an inclusive policy are significantly less likely to report having
skipped one or more classes (5% vs. 16%).
• Students from schools with an inclusive policy are significantly less likely to report having
skipped one or more whole days of school (4% vs. 10%).
These statistics seem to contradict your above claims.
This Gay twist/indoctriantion into GLBT lifestyles is quite new. I don't remember mentioning gays not having children for this reason. It's just physically impossible owing to the structure of the human body.
No, it is very possible for gays to have children. Just that they often do the same things that heterosexual couples who find themselves unable to conceive do.
The absurdity of comparing gay sex between two adults, with a mother and a father wanting to raise their children free from government school/humanist propaganda is amazing. gays using children to drive home their agenda is also shocking. There are no adultery lessons in schools that I know of, so why do we need to hear about those that like gay sex?
Well, technically there aren't homosexual lessons either. However, adultery often comes up in the same way that homosexuality does -- Heather only has a mom but not a dad because mommy wasn't married when she got pregnant. Or Keith has two mommies and a daddy, just that daddy divorced first mommy and now he has a new mommy.
Christians took a few centuries to get slavery abolished. Not one of the abolitionists promoted sodomy should be a school subject.
And I'm not aware of any abolitionist that opposed segregation, either. But it doesn't really matter since both arguments are logical fallacies, arguments from silence.
Not true? Gays and Lesbians are screaming and ranting about gay marriage NOT being legal. It never has been.
Again, false. Two states in the US currently have gay marriage. And then there are Canada, Belgium, the Netherlands, Spain, South Africa, etc. Not to mention the large number of ancient societies that had gay marriage, including Rome, China, the Native Americans -- the list just goes on and on.
Hate crimes legislation. That is why "parents" can't opt out their kids from gay indoctrination in public schools. GLSEN and HRC are always on the ready.
False, gays are not currently protected by hate crime legislation in most of the US. Ironically, Christians already are. Again, this seems to contradict the point you've attempted to make.
Jesus and the Apostles gave this heads up long before "gay pride" forced its way into the Church.
Let them bring their case. They will have to use scripture. The Humanist Manifesto holds no authority over Christians (in Churches). I will make my apologia anytime against gay theologians and their co-parts. When I throw out scripture because it opposes my sinning, then anyone can accuse me of error for that. That is all I do. I use scripture unaltered. I am not gay either. BTW.
I really don't care what Christians choose to believe. So I'll let you Christians debate that.
I am not Catholic as a matter of what Church I currently attend. I go to a Church that values the Bible un-perverted. I could easily go to a Catholic Church, Lutheran, Baptist, Prsebyterian, etc., etc.. They just need to value the Gospels and the epistles of the Apostles (and disciples) and not alter scripture for a new social cause that promotes same-gender sex acts be engaged in by fellow Christians. Notice I didn't mention Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses and Soulforce. Also, notice I make no secular stand on gay behavior except when its forced on me and my fellow Christian brothers and sisters and their children in public schools. I couldn't care less what pagans do legally or covert. Although I do care about what tax collectors do. Jesus knows I'm working on that one. But, the Democrats weild a lot of power.
Sorry about my mistake, I had thought at some point you said you were Catholic. I do think you have a strange idea of "forced on". Telling children that people are different and admitting that some things exist, like homosexuality, is not the same as it being "forced on" you. Under this definition, teaching history would be forcing religion on children when we teach the Crusades, the Puritans and Plymouth Colony, the founding of Utah, etc.
