2 Timothy 4:1 translation

[Chickapee]

peace C


SEEMS the Lord did come to bring divison .. that example of Paul and gallios maybe with the Jews ?gaining brothers to Christ or dismissing them , i meant

it is Jesus whom judges no man , yet whom is worthy of ther kingdom peace C

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

I am of the view the "Armeggdon/Gog-Magog" are not the same events in Revelation as the Judging, Rewards and Wraths all occur before that symbolic "1000yr" period

2 Timothy 4:1 Thru-witnessing then I, before the GOD and the Lord Jesus Christ, of the one-being-about/mellontoV <3195> (5723) to be judging living and dead, according as the appearance/manifestation/epifaneian <2015> of Him and the Kingdom of Him

Reve 11:18 And the nations are angered, and came Thy wrath, and the Time of the dead to be judged, and to give the wages to Thy Bond-servants, the prophets, and to the Saints, and to those fearing Thy name, the small, and the great, and to blight the ones blighting the land [Ezekiel 7:1-3]

Reve 14:7 saying in great sound: Be being fearful! of the God, and be Ye giving! to Him glory, that came/hlqen <2064> (5627) the Hour of His judging/krisewV <2920>. And worship Ye! to the One-making the heaven and the land and sea and springs of waters.

 

[Chickapee]

I am of the view the "Armeggdon/Gog-Magog" are not the same events in Revelation as the Judging, Rewards and Wraths all occur before that symbolic "1000yr" period

I am not either seeing them events as One , but several Little Lamb ,

and Have a diffent view of the 1000 yr reign all together the 1000 years is the DAY OF THE LORD to me

2Pe 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day [is] with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.


The Magog , of Ekekiel 38 and 39 , fortelling of the princes End .. Sons of Japheth wide spreading "opened" the 1/3 of the three of the sons of Noah whom covered the earth after the deluge /flood ..

Eze 38:2 Son of man, set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech : who is drawn by force, drawing out ,
and Tubal,: the earth; the world; confusion
and prophesy against him, Magog: covering; roof; dissolving

And say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I [am] against thee, O Gog, roof; covering
the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal:And I will turn thee back, and put hooks into thy jaws, and I will bring thee forth, and all thine army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed with all sorts [of armour, even] a great company [with] bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords:

they are of the form from the "north country" horsmen ...Rev 20:8And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom [is] as the sand of the sea.
the part i can understand is sands of the sea shore , those are the tiny and divided stones , not of the ROCK , soild in Jesus Christ
the Lord said Abrahams seed are multiplied and divivded as the stars of heaven [ as the angels risen above the earth with the light of Christ in them ]
and the sands of the sea shore , those tossed about by the Winds and waters of the voices by the Sea

there is no way i can explain , writting for me is hard , I can speak much mopre clear than write , though i still try bro
Peace and Gods love , have a ballon lol C

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

I am not either seeing them events as One , but several Little Lamb ,

and Have a diffent view of the 1000 yr reign all together the 1000 years is the DAY OF THE LORD to me

Hi Chickappee. You are correct that there are many events showing, and in my view, revelation is much like Parables within Parables, each one revealing what was hidden in the Old and thus all of it can be found in the OT Scriptures in some way. [Kind of like the Parables in the Gospels]

The important thing is we are "being changed. Someone brought up a comment Augustine made concerning the Heaven being rolled up and I responded on this thread if you are interested:

http://christianforums.com/showthread.php?t=7231168
Sola Scriptura IS..... Sola Scriptura is NOT....

............Augustine&#8217;s Confessions, Book XIII

Chapter XV.&#8212;Allegorical Explanation of the Firmament and Upper Works, Ver. 6.

16. Or who but Thou, our God, made for us that firmament1 of authority over us in Thy divine Scripture?2 As it is said, For heaven shall be folded up like a scroll;3 and now it is extended over us like a skin..............

Hebrew 1:12 "And as-if about-clothing Thou shall be rolling-up/elixeiV <1667> (5692) them as a cloak, and they shall be being changed/allaghsontai <236> (5691). Thou yet the same are and the years of Thee not shall be lacking/failing". [Psalm 102:25-27/Reve 6:14]

1 Corin 15:51 Behold! A mystery to ye I am telling all not shall be being reposed all yet we shall be being changed/allaghsomeqa <236> (5691) 52 in instant in twinkle of eye, in the last trump, for he shall be trumpeting and the dead ones shall be being roused uncorruptible and we shall be being changed/allaghsomeqa <236> (5691).

Reve 6:14 And the heaven recoils /apecwrisqh <673> (5681)as scrollet being rolled-up/eilissomenon <1507> (5746) and every mountain and island out of the places of them were moved.

 

[Chickapee]

Hi Chickappee. You are correct that there are many events showing, and in my view, revelation is much like Parables within Parables, each one revealing what was hidden in the Old and thus all of it can be found in the OT Scriptures in some way. [Kind of like the Parables in the Gospels]

The important thing is we are "being changed. Someone brought up a comment Augustine made concerning the Heaven being rolled up and I responded on this thread if you are interested:

http://christianforums.com/showthread.php?t=7231168
Sola Scriptura IS..... Sola Scriptura is NOT....

............Augustine’s Confessions, Book XIII

Chapter XV.—Allegorical Explanation of the Firmament and Upper Works, Ver. 6.

16. Or who but Thou, our God, made for us that firmament1 of authority over us in Thy divine Scripture?2 As it is said, For heaven shall be folded up like a scroll;3 and now it is extended over us like a skin..............

Hebrew 1:12 "And as-if about-clothing Thou shall be rolling-up/elixeiV <1667> (5692) them as a cloak, and they shall be being changed/allaghsontai <236> (5691). Thou yet the same are and the years of Thee not shall be lacking/failing". [Psalm 102:25-27/Reve 6:14]

1 Corin 15:51 Behold! A mystery to ye I am telling all not shall be being reposed all yet we shall be being changed/allaghsomeqa <236> (5691) 52 in instant in twinkle of eye, in the last trump, for he shall be trumpeting and the dead ones shall be being roused uncorruptible and we shall be being changed/allaghsomeqa <236> (5691).

Reve 6:14 And the heaven recoils /apecwrisqh <673> (5681)as scrollet being rolled-up/eilissomenon <1507> (5746) and every mountain and island out of the places of them were moved.

wow! Great Bro thanks ! alot of fortelling and it being made True , real
peace in Him C

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

wow! Great Bro thanks ! alot of fortelling and it being made True , real
peace in Him C

That one verse opened up my eyes a lot once I saw how it was in the Greek.
Isn't the WORD just wonderful

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

This form of #3195 used 6 times in the NT including 2 times in Revelation

http://www.scripture4all.org/

Matthew 3:7 Seeing yet many of the Pharisees and Sadducees coming upon his baptism he said to them "broods of vipers! who intimates to ye to be fleeing from the being about/melloushV <3195> (5723) wrath? [Reve 3:10/12:4]

Reve 3:10 That thou keep the Word of the endurance of Me, I also thee shall be keeping out of the hour of the trial of the being about/melloushV <3195> (5723) to be coming upon the being-homed, whole, to try the ones dwelling upon the land.

Reve 12:4 and the tail of him dragging the third of the stars of the heaven and casts them into the land and the dragon has stood in view of the women, of the one being about/melloushV <3195> (5723) to be bringing forth that whenever she may be bringing forth the offspring of her he may be devouring.