Many Chrisitians believe that non-believers go to hell. Aristotle was born before Christ and was therefore a non-believer. Is one of the fathers of western ethical philosophy (and one of the greatest influences on so-called Christian values) in hell? If not, why not, since God's law is immutable?
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Where's Aristotle?
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Just because someone was born before Christ does not mean that they would go to hell, according to christianity. For example, Abraham was born before Christ and yet I don't know any christian who thinks Abraham would be in hell.
The fact is only God, if there is one, knows who is going to hell. And, thankfully, he aint telling.
The only thing human beings have to go on are speculations based on outward signs. However, it is a part of Jesus' teachings that good deeds should not be done for others to see... so it could even be that what we know of someone is unreliable.
And if God wanted to save someone on their deathbed, who is any christian to gainsay him?
The fact is only God, if there is one, knows who is going to hell. And, thankfully, he aint telling.
The only thing human beings have to go on are speculations based on outward signs. However, it is a part of Jesus' teachings that good deeds should not be done for others to see... so it could even be that what we know of someone is unreliable.
And if God wanted to save someone on their deathbed, who is any christian to gainsay him?
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Hebrews 11 says that Abraham, and all the other examples used in that chapter who were born before Christ, were saved by their faith. If Aristotle had faith, he's in heaven. But how are any of us to know one way or the other?
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Well, you know, it is only made up if it doesn't agree with one's beliefs
Meaning that as long as it agrees with religious bias, it will be taken as a fact.
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What is the point here? Do you really think anyone is going to be able to say Aristotle is in heaven or not? What is the point of asking this question anyway?
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Meshavrischika
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faith that it is divinely inspired. Some of us have this and it makes it different for us. You, probably not, but this is the difference.And Scripture differs from this how?
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Robbie_James_Francis
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It seems to me that what lies behind the question is a very fundamental issue of how Christianity can unite opposing ideas in it's Jewish and Hellenic roots.
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Well, phisically, the answer is easy: there's a chance some of us are breathing the molecules that once were on his body, or have ate'em in a form of a fruit or something similar.
Spiritually, the answer is more complex. He could be ( and that's not the only options)
01 - In heaven
02 - In one of the multiple heavens/planets of afterlife
03 - Sleeping waiting the judgement
04 - In purgatory
05 - In Hell
06 - Reincarnated somewhere (we can rule out Washington from this "somewhere )
07 - Free from the circle of Reincarnations
08 - Free from the circle of Reincarnations on this plane of existence
09 - Reborn
10 - gone, ceased to exist
11 - a part of God
... ok, what I forget?
Spiritually, the answer is more complex. He could be ( and that's not the only options)
01 - In heaven
02 - In one of the multiple heavens/planets of afterlife
03 - Sleeping waiting the judgement
04 - In purgatory
05 - In Hell
06 - Reincarnated somewhere (we can rule out Washington from this "somewhere
)07 - Free from the circle of Reincarnations
08 - Free from the circle of Reincarnations on this plane of existence
09 - Reborn
10 - gone, ceased to exist
11 - a part of God
... ok, what I forget?
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keith99
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Well, phisically, the answer is easy: there's a chance some of us are breathing the molecules that once were on his body, or have ate'em in a form of a fruit or something similar.
Spiritually, the answer is more complex. He could be ( and that's not the only options)
01 - In heaven
02 - In one of the multiple heavens/planets of afterlife
03 - Sleeping waiting the judgement
04 - In purgatory
05 - In Hell
06 - Reincarnated somewhere (we can rule out Washington from this "somewhere
07 - Free from the circle of Reincarnations
08 - Free from the circle of Reincarnations on this plane of existence
09 - Reborn
10 - gone, ceased to exist
11 - a part of God
... ok, what I forget?
At least 'sleeping' awaiting his next incarnation (may or may not have been some between that death and now).
What Aristotle, none of us are real, this 'world' is just a butterfly's dream.
Still discussing with God just where he and others belong.
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My point is, the idea of hell is ridiculous. And for crying out loud, Dante's Inferno (aka the Divine COMEDY) is NOT scripture, even a filthy atheist like myself knows that.
Also didn't the pope nix limbo (or was that another imaginary realm)? The reason you see it as a silly question is because the very idea of people being sent to different planes upon death is absurd.
Also didn't the pope nix limbo (or was that another imaginary realm)? The reason you see it as a silly question is because the very idea of people being sent to different planes upon death is absurd.
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