A re-examination of nothing

[Floatingaxe]

Here you go attacking gay people again. We are not "offenders" by being ourselves.

This is not just a semantic issue; it's an issue of people using the Bible to denigrate gay people, which is immoral.

The bible is the plumbline. The Christian's authority given by God.

 

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

True! But we have to live in a world of such contradictions and paradoxes, don't we?

My argument is not that no higher truth exists, but that our conceptions of that truth are always partial, always distorted. We always see "through a glass darkly," so long as we are human beings.

Well with this it has to agree, it knows nothing else but this reality except when it enters higher realms and has Vision of course. But then it bes not itself for that time, and not cognizant of the confines of human flesh.

 

[Floatingaxe]

Well, it certainly doesn't harm you, or anyone else who isn't homosexual.

And whilst it's true that people who engage in unsafe sex are at risk of STDs, that's true regardless of sexuality.

So aside from those homosexuals who decide to engage in unsafe sex, which homosexuals are harmed by being homosexual? I can't think of any.

David.

It hurts and harms people I love, and whom God loves.

 

[Floatingaxe]

So instead of admit you bes wrong in what you did, you throws it back on daimonizomai and casts aspersions on it. How very classic. How very typical. How very MORTAL and HUMAN and alas, ..........................

........................................

.................................................how very CHRISTIAN.

What you say is very wrong.

 

[Chaplain David]

To many people arguing, I mean debating, I mean discussing, whatever it's too many for me right now.

Moriah - Hello, I liked your post about reality changing. I think it'll keep doing that until heaven.

David - You seem to have one of the more level heads here.

Floating Axe - Carrying the Word with determination.

Ohioprof - I'd like to debate you today but like I said, to many different things going on right now.

SavedandHappy - good to see you

Anybody I missed - wasn't unpurpose.

L8tr

 

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

Don't kid yourself, Moriah. You are mortal like the rest of us. Don't be hinding behind your demonspeak about that.

It remembers its Being before being in flesh. It remembers other configurata in which it bes embedded and manifest and reified. It predates this mortal shell and coil and thus expects to survive its shedding, provided it accomplishes what it bes sent here to do.

Yes, the demoniacs didn't repent until they were delivered and in their right minds again.

Well of course not, they bes not having any selves separate from whats Inhabiting them....do demons repent? Most say no but there bes a deeper mystery here ... beyond the scope of this place....

I'm not saying that they cannot repent until delivered. They certainly can and do.

Disagree. It bes impossible to repent with what They do inside. Your assessment above bes more accurate and easier parsed for inherent consistency. If your being truly bes owned & operated by a being what cannot repent then neither can you.

Off topic though.

 

[savedandhappy1]

Your post was about mental illnesses, as you brought up depression and substance abuse and the other disorders named in the study to which you linked. Those are in the DSM-IV, the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of mental disorders. The study to which you linked looked at the rates of various mental illnesses among gay people in comparison to those rates among heterosexuals.

My issue with your post was not the data; it was your spin on the data. The study you linked makes no claim about why gay people may be at greater risk for these various mental illnesses. It just says that we are. You suggested that the study challenges the notion that gay people are at higher risk because of homophobia and social ostracism, etc. But the study shows no such thing.

Your post read to me like a gratuitious slam at gay people. If that was not your aim, then that's good. It sounded like it to me.

My post was in response to what I said. That being said, if you don't believe people are depressed if try try to kill themselves then I don't know what to tell you.

I didn't post it for that information though, but only for the information that studies show that the rate isn't higher because of intolerance.

Spin?????????????????????

What spin would that be? My only comment was that I would look up other sources because some would not except the information because of the site it came from.

How is that spin?

P.S. Speaking of the post about suicides, only.

 

[catlover]

LOL, um ... NO.

NOT bestiality. Good grief. Something else, something very much else!

Thought THAT much at least bes obvious.... superior species NOT inferior.... yeah?

It's one of those fainting goats...you clap your hands and they fall over. They were used by goat herders, bascially if something attacked those guys would fall over, and the attacker would eat THAT goat and other goats would run away.

 

[David Brider]

It hurts and harms people I love, and whom God loves.

In what way?

David.

 

[savedandhappy1]

To many people arguing, I mean debating, I mean discussing, whatever it's too many for me right now.

Moriah - Hello, I liked your post about reality changing. I think it'll keep doing that until heaven.

David - You seem to have one of the more level heads here.

Floating Axe - Carrying the Word with determination.

Ohioprof - I'd like to debate you today but like I said, to many different things going on right now.

SavedandHappy - good to see you

Anybody I missed - wasn't unpurpose.

L8tr

Good to see you also.

Hope that your health is better today, praying for you.

 

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

What you say is very wrong.

Show it something else then. What it says bes based on what it sees day in and day out, continually, in tiresome repetition. Show it the honest soul what owns its faults and weaknesses and does not constantly attempt to fob off its shortcomings into the lap of the one harmed by them.

 

[Floatingaxe]

It remembers its Being before being in flesh. It remembers other configurata in which it bes embedded and manifest and reified. It predates this mortal shell and coil and thus expects to survive its shedding, provided it accomplishes what it bes sent here to do.

I resent having to do discourse with a demonic being. Whatever you have been sent to do, it is to destroy the person you have inhabited. In Jesus' name you have no authority here on this message board.

Well of course not, they bes not having any selves separate from whats Inhabiting them....do demons repent? Most say no but there bes a deeper mystery here ... beyond the scope of this place....

Disagree. It bes impossible to repent with what They do inside. Your assessment above bes more accurate and easier parsed for inherent consistency. If your being truly bes owned & operated by a being what cannot repent then neither can you.

Off topic though.

If people are inhabited by demons, they have invited them in and need to repent of the stronghold that has opened the way in. No, demons don't repent--they get out, driven out by Jesus Christ--His righteousness and supreme power!

 

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

People do not always invite them in. You bes in error, not knowing the scriptures.

 

[Floatingaxe]

In what way?

David.

It hurts my family members who love the one who has contracted HIV with a homosexual lifestyle.It affects him with illness and discomfort, physically, emotionally, mentally and yes--socially! It affects everyone aversely.

 

[Floatingaxe]

People do not always invite them in. You bes in error, not knowing the scriptures.

Most people open themselves up in a sin, in a behaviour or a mindset that is a gateway to the demonic. Children are gateways by their innocence and lacking spiritually astute parents. Some come by it through curses--generational or otherwise.

Either way--an open door is an invitation.

If Jesus Christ isn't there and living His life fully, then it's a house with empty rooms begging for a tenant.

 

[David Brider]

It hurts my family members who love the one who has contracted HIV with a homosexual lifestyle.It affects him with illness and discomfort, physically, emotionally, mentally and yes--socially! It affects everyone aversely.

But it's not homosexuality that gives someone HIV. It's engaging in unsafe sex, or sometimes receiving contaminated blood. But it's not homosexuality.

David.

 

[Floatingaxe]

But it's not homosexuality that gives someone HIV. It's engaging in unsafe sex, or sometimes receiving contaminated blood. But it's not homosexuality.

David.

If the individual wasn't homosexual, living among many homosexuals, and many of them promiscuous, his chance of getting HIV would have been pretty negligible. His immorality is s source of pain to us and to himself.

 

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

Most people open themselves up in a sin, in a behaviour or a mindset that is a gateway to the demonic.

Yeah well that bes not always the case and you do not know everything, OK?

Children are gateways by their innocence

Oh so now simply being a child constitutes grounds for being invaded, taken hostage, hacked and reprogrammed? Hardly.

and lacking spiritually astute parents. Some come by it through curses--generational or otherwise.

Yeah well a lot of ppls like to attribute their problems and issues to "the demonic". Doesn't mean they bes dealing with anything real in that department beyond their own chaotic impulses and logismoi (stray, erratic thoughts).

If Jesus Christ isn't there and living His life fully, then it's a house with empty rooms begging for a tenant.

Right, everyone not a Believer bes possessed then.
Um, sorry, but no.

 

[EnemyPartyII]

It hurts and harms people I love, and whom God loves.

Lie.

 

[Floatingaxe]

Yeah well that bes not always the case and you do not know everything, OK?

Right. I don't know everything. I do, however, know what I am talking about here.

Oh so now simply being a child constitutes grounds for being invaded, taken hostage, hacked and reprogrammed? Hardly.

Children are easy targets for Satan and his band. That is why we are instructed to raise them up in the things of God and to be diligent spiritual guardians.

Yeah well a lot of ppls like to attribute their problems and issues to "the demonic". Doesn't mean they bes dealing with anything real in that department beyond their own chaotic impulses and logismoi (stray, erratic thoughts).

Yes, but we are discussing demonic interference here and now.

Right, everyone not a Believer bes possessed then.
Um, sorry, but no.

Of course you should understand the meaning there: unbelievers are open game by their sinful choices. Believers are a tastier target, however, as they in Satan's mind are the real enemy and need to be destroyed or, at the very least, made ineffective in their influence for Jesus Christ.