Ethics & Morality?? America Is An Overflowing Sewer Of Sin And Filth (3)

[Floatingaxe]

So how does an ax float anyways? Some sort of ax flotation device?

Read 2 Kings 6

 

[EnemyPartyII]

As you believe I must defend myself, by your very words you are admitting that you (understood) have been on the attack!

defend in the debate sense, not in the violent sense. Either way, I sincerely think you would win more converts if you presented more hard evidence to back you up.

PS you been to my police/legal thread yet?

 

[EnemyPartyII]

Read 2 Kings 6

Didn't you once describe Kings as "obscure"? Regarding differences in numbers of horse staqlls between different Bible books, if memory serves...

 

[Floatingaxe]

Didn't you once describe Kings as "obscure"? Regarding differences in numbers of horse staqlls between different Bible books, if memory serves...

No.

 

[Floatingaxe]

That is what we do! We present Holy Scripture. But it is falling on deaf ears.

 

[Skaloop]

That is what we do! We present Holy Scripture. But it is falling on deaf ears.

And yet rather than defend your beliefs of scripture, you report anyone who holds a different position. Our ears are not deaf, our ears are wise. They are not gullible to the myths to which you yourself succumb.

 

[Blayz]

No.

Ahoy there fundie. I really like the axe avvie. I run a DND site, so this is an off topic friendly notification that I just stole said avvie for my website.

Thanx!

 

[Floatingaxe]

And yet rather than defend your beliefs of scripture, you report anyone who holds a different position. Our ears are not deaf, our ears are wise. They are not gullible to the myths to which you yourself succumb.

I'm sorry, but I just have to

at that one.

 

[Floatingaxe]

Ahoy there fundie. I really like the axe avvie. I run a DND site, so this is an off topic friendly notification that I just stole said avvie for my website.

Thanx!

You're welcome.

 

[Verv]

Not true. Scripture is a living document, alive with the Holy Spirit. It is stony hearts that refuse to see truth and are confounded by it that miss that power.

1 Corinthians 2:14
But people who aren’t spiritual can’t receive these truths from God’s Spirit. It all sounds foolish to them and they can’t understand it, for only those who are spiritual can understand what the Spirit means.

*blah blah blah *[empty rhetoric]*blah blah blah*[idiotic bible passage]*blah blah blah*

Seriously, can you offer anything of substance? Anything of value? Anything that isn't made up fairytales? Anything that actually means anything? Because so far, you haven't been able to. You spout nonsense, and hide behind ambiguity. If your Bible is so great, present it, and it should stand on its own, rather than fall weakly at the foot of reason and logic.

So you take a wise passage that hints at a very profound and universal idea and pretend it means nothing?

Practically the same thing was said by Lao-tzu in the Tao Teh Ching, one of the most revered Eastern classics:

"When a superior man hears of the Tao,
he immediately begins to embody it.
When an average man hears of the Tao,
he half believes it, half doubts it.
When a foolish man hears of the Tao,
he laughs out loud."

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They are taking about the same thing as the Tao is essentially the Holy Spirit embodied, the way of God and of the world.

You are the sort to embrace the morally anarchist, to embrace destruction of good truth and good value, and so you will never understand where we are coming from becuse rather than trying to understand society and rule you attempt to change the very values under it and justify your sin.

But in the end there is a Way Of God which was presented in the Holy Bible and there is no way to Heaven but through following The Way (the Tao).

So we follow it.

We honor our mothers and our fathers and have no God but YHWH, we have no God but He who gave His Son; we do not lie; we do not steal; we do not have promiscuous sex and we do not covet and we do not commit adultery.

We do not give into the immoral urges and we uphold and honor our Nation and our Family.

Your ignorant treatment of our Holy Book, meant to always be pejorative and inflexible misinterpretation, is not appreciated.

Open your mind and if you criticize our Faith you must do so from having an amount of grounding in what we are even saying.

 

[cantata]

My answer you quoted!

However, I am willing to offer you a PM, but with all the mockery here, the truth of Scripture is a waste.

I would love a PM. I am interested in your response, from a personal and a study point of view.

 

[quatona]

So you take a wise passage that hints at a very profound and universal idea and pretend it means nothing?

Practically the same thing was said by Lao-tzu in the Tao Teh Ching, one of the most revered Eastern classics:

"When a superior man hears of the Tao,
he immediately begins to embody it.
When an average man hears of the Tao,
he half believes it, half doubts it.
When a foolish man hears of the Tao,
he laughs out loud."

Yes, that´s a very common method of protecting one´s claims against criticism (and a method that´s often used by charlatans, at that)..
"The stupid ones will disagree with me (so if someone disagrees with me I´ll simply conclude they are stupid and take the disagreement as a confirmation of my claims.)".
Now, unless you allow the reverse conclusion ("Whenever someone laughs out loud they are stupid and have just been exposed to the Tao.") you haven´t made one step forward in your attempt to demonstrate that this is what happened here.
After all, there are a lot of cases where laughter is the response of a wise, knowledgeable, intelligent or well informed man towards something very stupid that he.has just been exposed to.

 

[EnemyPartyII]

I'm sorry, but I just have to

at that one.

rather than smile at it, why not specifically explain where you disagree?

 

[Skaloop]

We honor our mothers and our fathers

So do I.

and have no God but YHWH, we have no God but He who gave His Son;

That one obviously doesn't apply to me.

we do not lie;

Neither do I. Not generally.

we do not steal;

Neither do I.

we do not have promiscuous sex

Neither do I.

and we do not commit adultery.

Neither do I.

We do not give into the immoral urges and we uphold and honor our Nation and our Family.

Neither do I, and so do I.

So how exactly am I a moral anarchist? How exactly am I embracing destruction? What sins am I justifying? How am I denying society's rules when I follow the law of the land? I treat others well, I commit no crimes, and I love my family, friends, and country. I live a good life. How can you call that destructive?

 

[KarrieTex]

Spiritually it could be said that you are being destructive on an eternal basis not on an earthly present basis.

 

[Skaloop]

Spiritually it could be said that you are being destructive on an eternal basis not on an earthly present basis.

Which is meaningless if there is no eternal basis.

I know there is an earthly present basis, and accordingly act non-destructively towards it.

Nobody knows if there is an eternal basis, and furthermore, even if there is one, nobody knows the nature of an eternal basis; it could be anything. Because of that, choosing one direction for an eternal basis could be just as spiritually destructive.

 

[KarrieTex]

I completely disagree with that.

I know without a doubt where my eternity is.

 

[WatersMoon110]

I completely disagree with that.

I know without a doubt where my eternity is.

Then you're lying to yourself. Even if you believe that there is no possibility that your religion might be wrong, only God knows for sure who is or isn't going to Heaven!

 

[KarrieTex]

How can I be lying to myself? The Bible is very clear that who so ever believes in the Son will have eternal life. I believe in Jesus as Lord and Savior by the Bibical and Godly promise I will be in Heaven with the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

 

[Skaloop]

I completely disagree with that.

I know without a doubt where my eternity is.

No, you don't. You think you know. You may even feel without a doubt that you are right, but you do not know absolutely that you are.

I "know", with as much certainty as you hold your belief, that there is no eternity for anyone. I "know" that without a doubt. But I do not claim absolute knowledge of this, and as such would not actually say that I know it. I'm as sure as sure can be, but I'll admit that I may be wrong.

Would you admit the same?