What ARE The Keys to the Kingdom of Heaven anyhow?

[Oblio]

Those with any sort of integrity know better and read what is plain in scripture about it.

And ye will be like gods

 

[Oblio]

Or with other prots who dont see it as something not to eat bread over.

Something about 'eating and drinking unto damnation ...' hmmmmmm

 

[Rick Otto]

Oops,... I mean, Oblio!
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Protestants function as individuals, each their own, may I say it? Pope.

Yes you may, and be correct. The errors of Protestantism, especially in the US are born out of the 'rugged individualism' and 'democracy' that is worshiped as a golden idol. All hail the 'First Pope of ME !'

Errors they got plenty, but they don't declare themselves infallible, so you are as wrong as rain (lol).
They don't monogeographicaly pontificate in full regalia, or openly grasp temporal power in full costume & generaly don't concoct geneologies to perpetuate an OT priesthood. Most of their children aren't bastards either, because they don't forbid to marry.



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BULL.
BTW, check out those catholic boys, now ALL
grown up and out on their own, ordained and
guess what they're doing in the church with
the little boys?
Hmmmmmmm

And let's not forget the evangelicals that molest, or the preaches wives who sleep around,

At least they have wives, & don't worry they'll forget because they have their more Christian brothers perching breathlessly, waiting to remind them

or the pastors who take advantage of the young girls while in 'counseling' sessions. You don't really think that Catholics have a corner on sexual abuse do you ?

No, just a 1500 year head start.

At least one EO I know is able to discuss the differences without mud wrestling:
http://foru.ms/t5817228&page=12

 

[Fireinfolding]

Our problem is that we aren't denominatical schismatical, we're just enthsiastical ecclesiastical.

Well that was interestingly put Rick, like the sound of that lol

Did I ever tell ya about the emphasis on Ephesus in the epistle by the apostle? (lol)

No and that one flew right over my head if I was to get what you meant lol come back and clarify that one

And ye will be like gods

lol Oblio, your so completely out of context in anything that was discussed.

Jesus said the very same thing

I will surely praise Him "among the gods" because to me there is One God and One Lord Jesus Christ.

Something about 'eating and drinking unto damnation ...' hmmmmmm

Welp, in the context of the discussion, some of us dont see how not buying into Romes mandate on birth control makes eating bread a damnable thing sorry.

Now...I know more then a few Catholics still alive (not sick or dead) taking communion who regularly get perscriptions filled for the pill.

So when their own start taking Rome seriously maybe we will too? (Ok, I'm kidding, it really wouldnt matter even if they did take Rome seriously).

 

[Rick Otto]

I was just tryin' to lighten things up with word play, sis.
The air gets pretty thick in here sometimes.
People have a hard time just enjoyin' a laugh, especialy if it's at their own expense.

BTW, I had a funny wierd dream last night.
I dreamt my little one story, 500sqft. house had a roof that went three stories high with all kinds of Victorianesque gables & details on it, almost like a steeple. As i looked up at it in amazement, it started raining. So I went inside, and noticed rain drops coming right thru the roof, and I saw one in particular hit the wall. So I walked over to the wall & touched right where the drop had just hit, but it was bone dry. I thought to myself "I must be dreaming this."
I turned around just in time to see my wife open the door for you & your husband. As soon as I introduced you to my wife & you introduced us to your husband, you & my wife went into the kitchen chattin' & laughin'.
Your husband was wearin' jeans & an army field jacket and said "I'm here to help you fix your roof."
Before I could explain to him that it was only a dream & the rain was dry anyway, he started introducing me to his twin brother & several cousins who had tools & ladders & shingles & were already starting to get to business on my roof.
Your husband started telling me what they were going to fix first & how, using Victorian Roof terminology that I could only dumbly nod my head at & say, "Uh, yeah... OK."
So I walked outside to see what I could do to help, wanting to be polite & helpful.
That's when I noticed at least 4 daughters of yours sitting around and watching the proceedings.
Three of them were girly-pretty types, half-way kinda posing & preening. One of 'em was watchin' me real close, like she was sizing me up for fashion sense, character, - the whole 9 yards... but one of 'em was not so pretty.
She wasn't ugly, but her beauty was more in the way she held herself & looked me in the eye, like she already knew everything there was to know about me, especialy the fact that i didn't have a clue what her dad had just said & she did know what he was talkin' about.
So I walked up to her and asked her what he was talkin' about. She led me over to where I could see the details on the roof & pointed to the parts he'd named, showing me which part was which.
I was impressed, but kinda embarrassed, so I thanked her & began lookin' to help the guys, but all there was for me to do was clean up the mess & pile the old junk onto a cart. I started pushin' the cart around the corner & saw a big church that I'd never known was even in the neighborhood. There was a huge crew of men fixin' the roof on it, and they let me use their dumpster for my debris.
Then I woke up shakin' my head thinkin' "But this is all a dream!?"
Wierd, huh? (LOL)

 

[Fireinfolding]

I was just tryin' to lighten things up with word play, sis.
The air gets pretty thick in here sometimes.
People have a hard time just enjoyin' a laugh, especialy if it's at their own expense.

I appreciate your kind Rick, I can laugh at myself and both sides lol I just land (by default on the prot side). But I try to do the same and glad for others that can as well. That stuff makes its way into it though (again and again) wooohooo! How fun

 

[Hentenza]

I was just tryin' to lighten things up with word play, sis.
The air gets pretty thick in here sometimes.
People have a hard time just enjoyin' a laugh, especialy if it's at their own expense.

Hey Rick,

I live in Houston, Texas so the air only gets thicker in LA sometimes.

 

[Fireinfolding]

Hey Rick,

I live in Houston, Texas so the air only gets thicker in LA sometimes.

Spiritual AIRogance!!

And where the heck have you been? How dare you leave us?

 

[Rick Otto]

"Houston, we have a problem..." (lol)
I just watched "Astronaut Farmer" the other night.

Howdy, Hentenza.

 

[Fireinfolding]

I was just tryin' to lighten things up with word play, sis.
The air gets pretty thick in here sometimes.
People have a hard time just enjoyin' a laugh, especialy if it's at their own expense.

BTW, I had a funny wierd dream last night.
I dreamt my little one story, 500sqft. house had a roof that went three stories high with all kinds of Victorianesque gables & details on it, almost like a steeple. As i looked up at it in amazement, it started raining. So I went inside, and noticed rain drops coming right thru the roof, and I saw one in particular hit the wall. So I walked over to the wall & touched right where the drop had just hit, but it was bone dry. I thought to myself "I must be dreaming this."
I turned around just in time to see my wife open the door for you & your husband. As soon as I introduced you to my wife & you introduced us to your husband, you & my wife went into the kitchen chattin' & laughin'.
Your husband was wearin' jeans & an army field jacket and said "I'm here to help you fix your roof."
Before I could explain to him that it was only a dream & the rain was dry anyway, he started introducing me to his twin brother & several cousins who had tools & ladders & shingles & were already starting to get to business on my roof.
Your husband started telling me what they were going to fix first & how, using Victorian Roof terminology that I could only dumbly nod my head at & say, "Uh, yeah... OK."
So I walked outside to see what I could do to help, wanting to be polite & helpful.
That's when I noticed at least 4 daughters of yours sitting around and watching the proceedings.
Three of them were girly-pretty types, half-way kinda posing & preening. One of 'em was watchin' me real close, like she was sizing me up for fashion sense, character, - the whole 9 yards... but one of 'em was not so pretty.
She wasn't ugly, but her beauty was more in the way she held herself & looked me in the eye, like she already knew everything there was to know about me, especialy the fact that i didn't have a clue what her dad had just said & she did know what he was talkin' about.
So I walked up to her and asked her what he was talkin' about. She led me over to where I could see the details on the roof & pointed to the parts he'd named, showing me which part was which.
I was impressed, but kinda embarrassed, so I thanked her & began lookin' to help the guys, but all there was for me to do was clean up the mess & pile the old junk onto a cart. I started pushin' the cart around the corner & saw a big church that I'd never known was even in the neighborhood. There was a huge crew of men fixin' the roof on it, and they let me use their dumpster for my debris.
Then I woke up shakin' my head thinkin' "But this is all a dream!?"
Wierd, huh? (LOL)

Ok... Rick, you edited this in didnt cha? I completely missed this... who was in your dream? Were you talking bout me and my husband or is this someone else and their husband? LOL

What a very weird dream... dreams are weird arent they? I rarely dream (if I do at all) I rarely remember them. One I had (which I remembered a few months ago) was typed in words to me Now I think that was weird, dreaming in type...? I must be hanging out here way too much I think lol

 

[Rick Otto]

Yeah, I edited. Yeah, it was you. Yeah, I had spent way too much time here that night. (lol)

 

[Hentenza]

Spiritual AIRogance!!

And where the heck have you been? How dare you leave us?

Hey Fire,

Haven't gone anywhere. Just been busy. You know me though, I can't stay away. I love you guys too much.

 

[Hentenza]

"Houston, we have a problem..." (lol)
I just watched "Astronaut Farmer" the other night.

Howdy, Hentenza.

Hey Rick,

LOL!!! Every one says that!!

BTW- Just read your dream post. Might be time to change beer brands.

 

[Rick Otto]

The Astronaut Farmer was Billy Bob Thornton, and of course the farmer was Texan.

Come to think on it, I DID try a new brand..."Blue Moon"!

 

[Fireinfolding]

Yeah, I edited. Yeah, it was you. Yeah, I had spent way too much time here that night. (lol)

Your losing it bro, even your dreams are a witness against ya lol

hmmmm...I say, lets phycho analyze your dream and get ya on some heavy duty perscriptions

Woohooo! I can now sign off saying,"good night Rick sleep tight, me and the hubby will see you a bit later in your dreams (eat lots of pizza before hitting the sack it might ensure a dream visit)

 

[Fireinfolding]

Hey Fire,

Haven't gone anywhere. Just been busy. You know me though, I can't stay away. I love you guys too much.

We are a lawful addiction arent we?

Glad to see ya back, just dont be busy again

 

[sunlover1]

And let's not forget the evangelicals that molest, or the preaches wives who sleep around, or the pastors who take advantage of the young girls while in 'counseling' sessions. You don't really think that Catholics have a corner on sexual abuse do you ? Especially since Protestants have inherited their views on sex ?

I certainly do NOT think caths have a corner on sin.
That was my point as a matter of fact.

Her statement:

When it comes to obedience, the Orthodox, the Catholics, and the Jews have an accountability that Protestants lack.

In the protestant churches, each person gets to be their own interpreter of Scripture and therefore of morality. How many times have I heard protestants do the yada yada yada about how fornication doesn't really mean premarital sex in their particular circumstance? Protestants function as individuals, each their own, may I say it? Pope.

stated that catholics have an "accountability" that
protestants lack".

And since we all are familiar with the great cover up
of the CC and how they've used their influence
to hide their crimes, I figured a reminder was in order.

The 'accountable' church's priests, cardinals, bishops etc.
were responsible for moving predators to other locations
to harm more 'sheep'

Tells me that somethings rotten in denmark.


BTW, where does all this 'accountability' of a group
come from if not the ones in charge??
(rhetorical question)


Yes, that was my point Oblio.
NObody's perfect.
Hirelings I tell ya.
Only difference, some claim to be 'impeccable'
Bogus claim

Which I just illustrated for ya.

 

[Rick Otto]

Bu-bu-but the claim of impeccability only applies to pontifications on doctrine & morals, it doesn't apply to wether or not they act like they believe what they pontificate about.
(pumping irony) ignore the ladies in the photo upper right
I play that Boney-Joni Parking-Lot song, but i have to change the "old-man left again" part 'cuz I'm only happy, not gay.

 

[Fireinfolding]

Bu-bu-but the claim of impeccability only applies to pontifications on doctrine & morals, it doesn't apply to wether or not they act like they believe what they pontificate about.
(pumping irony) ignore the ladies in the photo upper right
I play that Boney-Joni Parking-Lot song, but i have to change the "old-man left again" part 'cuz I'm only happy, not gay.

The doctrine of Christ is "according to godliness" not just a "form of godliness" . Even Timothy told to watch his life and doctrine (by the which) is able to save the hearer. Nothing wrong with following a good example (if one is following Christ) but if they are not its just as well not to follow the contrary.

What are those nuns doing in your avatar? I been trying to look more closely at it, anything they are not supposed to be doing? lol

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Word of the Day

Same exact greek word used in Ephesian 2:22 also used in Reve 18. Just saw this today and it appears 3 different greek words are used in it ["oik" meaning "house"]. Pretty interesting.

http://www.scripture4all.org/

Ephesians 2:22 in whom also ye are being-builded-together/sun-oik-odomeisqe <4925, into a habitation/kat-oik-hthrion <2732> of the God in Spirit.

Reve 18:2 And he cries in strong voice, saying, `She falls, She falls, Babylon the great. And she became a habitation/kat-oik-hthrion <2732 of demons, and prisonhouse of every spirit unclean, and prisonhouse of every unclean and bird unclean,

Hebrews 7:12 for the Priesthood being changed, out of necessity also, of Law a change is becoming,