Obama in Violation of the First Amendment

[The Bellman]

D'oh! Bellman, you're too fast!

Slow day at work, plus I'm getting tired of ParsonJefferson's less than honest tactics.

 

[jameseb]

I'm finished talking with you.

All you can do is be a caustic smart alec, when you know darned good & well that what I'm saying is absolutely true.

Grow up.

Hm, might I recommend visiting the Political Conservatives forum to you? You'll find a lot less strife and bickering over there. Trust me, the odds are against you over here.

 

[Allahuakbar]

Hm, might I recommend visiting the Political Conservatives forum to you? You'll find a lot less strife and bickering over there. Trust me, the odds are against you over here.

Does the conservative forum lack a system of individuals expecting logical thought and evidentiary support?

 

[Nathan Poe]

Hm, might I recommend visiting the Political Conservatives forum to you? You'll find a lot less strife and bickering over there. Trust me, the odds are against you over here.

"Reality has a liberal bias." --Stephen Colbert.

 

[jameseb]

Does the conservative forum lack a system of individuals expecting logical thought and evidentiary support?

Do you usually form questions with red herrings embedded?

It has nothing to do with the current discussion between you two (if that is happening at all) - I'm simply rounding up people here who are routinely reported on spurious charges (not always mind you, but certainly seen a fair share of them against this person), evidently for being on the opposite end of the political spectrum.

 

[Allahuakbar]

Do usually form questions with red herrings embedded?

It has nothing to do with the current discussion between you two (if that is happening at all) - I'm simply rounding up people here who are routinely reported on spurious charges (not always mind you, but certainly seen a fair share of them against this person), evidently for being on the opposite end of the political spectrum.

Perhaps you could do a little experiment. I do not think Clirus' problem has to do with his political beliefs, but the simple problem that his beliefs have no basis in any recognizable facts.

I have never seen him offer any evidence for any of his assertions, ever.

 

[Nathan Poe]

It has nothing to do with the current discussion between you two (if that is happening at all) - I'm simply rounding up people here who are routinely reported on spurious charges (not always mind you, but certainly seen a fair share of them against this person), evidently for being on the opposite end of the political spectrum.

Well, I'll freely admit that I did report pj for the post you quoted -- do you think the charge was spurious?

 

[Allahuakbar]

Do usually form questions with red herrings embedded?

I do not think you are using red herring correctly. Could you explain?

 

[jameseb]

Well, I'll freely admit that I did report pj for the post you quoted -- do you think the charge was spurious?

NP,

Just for the record, it had zero to do with a report I read by you, and I certainly wouldn't call out anyone for a report they filed. Usually people truly believe they are reporting a perceived infraction. I encourage everyone to report potential rule violations.

 

[jameseb]

I do not think you are using red herring correctly. Could you explain?

Your question was loaded, diverting attention away from the purposes of my invite so I would say "yes".

Would you like me to link you a definition for red herring so that you can be made familiar with its usage?

 

[Allahuakbar]

Your question was loaded, diverting attention away from the purposes of my invite so I would say "yes".

Would you like me to link you a definition for red herring so that you can be made familiar with its usage?

Yes, that is what I am asking for. A cited definition with critical analysis.

 

[jameseb]

Yes, that is what I am asking for. A cited definition with critical analysis.

Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1) - Cite This Source
red herring –noun 1.a smoked herring. 2.something intended to divert attention from the real problem or matter at hand; a misleading clue. 3.Also called red-herring prospectus. Finance. a tentative prospectus circulated by the underwriters of a new issue of stocks or bonds that is pending approval by the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission: so called because the front cover of such a prospectus must carry a special notice printed in red. 4.any similar tentative financial prospectus, as one concerning a pending or proposed sale of cooperative or condominium apartments.
[Origin: 1375–1425; late ME

]


Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1)
Based on the Random House Unabridged Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2006.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/red herring


Emphasis mine.

 

[Allahuakbar]

something intended to divert attention from the real problem or matter at hand

I note the lack of critical analysis.

You said, "Hm, might I recommend visiting the Political Conservatives forum to you? You'll find a lot less strife and bickering over there. Trust me, the odds are against you over here."

My response...

"Does the conservative forum lack a system of individuals expecting logical thought and evidentiary support?"

Actually addresses the issue. The problem is not with political leanings or intellectual bias, but the simple fact that PJ cannot support his positions because he does not bother to really learn something about the subjects in question. Running away is not the answer.

As it is your assertions, along with your application of the term "Red Herring", were incorrect. My comments were actually directly relating to the root of the problem.

 

[jameseb]

I note the lack of critical analysis. *snip*

And I note the obvious desire of you just wanting to argue just for the sake of arguing... look, I did what I wanted to do here so just carry on with your lil' debate.... and as we say in the airline business, BUH-bye.

 

[jameseb]

<delete> double post

 

[Allahuakbar]

And I note the obvious desire of you just wanting to argue just for the sake of arguing... look, I did what I wanted to do here so just carry on with your lil' debate.... and as we say in the airline business, BUH-bye.

In other-words you cannot provide anything representing critical or logical thought, or defend the incorrect interpretation of "Red Herring", so you are leaving a departing shot in the hopes that someone will think you had a consistent point to begin with. This is a rather immature form of interaction, but not unusual.

 

[Billnew]

They don't arrest people for it, I don't think. I think what happens is that the church loses its tax exempt status. Someone correct me if I am in error. I think that's that way it works.

If a church looses its tax exempt status, then its the church that is being punished, so it must be the church that is wrong, Not Obama.
Can I assume that at #118, I have yet to see what Obama did against the 1st Amendment, So I assume he did not infringe on the 1st Amendment.
He may have endangered a tax exempt status for the church, but he broke no laws.

I believe it is a hard line to set, to decide political vs religious talk in church. And that the First Amendment guarantees that any person can say it, anyway.

We need to void election laws that restrict peoples right to speak out, verbally, written and with money.
How can we have a free society, if we can't say certain things at certain times? What is freedom if we can't say what we want when we want too. That is why it is the First Amendment, the most important of all rights.

 

[kiwimac]

Folks, can we try to keep on topic?

 

[NeTrips]

kiwimac - please review the GPD FSR's. Specifically #4

4. Members, nonmembers and news sources may not be defamed including but not limited to the use of misspelled, derogatory or derisive names.

 

[ChaliceThunder]

Will his supporters condemn this act, or will they support Obama regardless of his reckless disregard for our laws?

Oh boohoo!

Where is the FA violated here?

At least Obama is somebody PRESIDENTIAL who actually cares about NOLA.