forum split

[mva1985]

Splitting the forum is a very bad idea.

 

[woobadooba]

Splitting the forum is a very bad idea.

Again, this is merely your opinion. The fruit of the endeavor will determine if it is true or false.

I suspect that it will prove to be a good endeavor. For, where there is less antagonism there is more room for growth.

 

[woobadooba]

good question

One thing to keep in mind is that this forum is already set up as traditional/conservative (our doctrines are already listed).

So it may be easier to just have the progressives start up their own forum outside of this one.

Then again, I think it would be appropriate to go by seniority. Those who have been here the longest should be the ones to vote on who stays and who goes.

 

[NightEternal]

For those who seem to think it is viable and possible to blend the two into one forum: Do you honestly believe forums like Revival Sermons and Adventist Today could ever combine and there would be perfect harmony?

It would be like throwing a match on an open flame. It would never work. This is why those two forums are entirely separate.

People, this is not the end of the online world. The internet is full of forums geared to a specific segment of SDA's. I don't buy all of this pessimistic, doomsday talk. Life will go on and the world-wide church will not be 'marred' by what we do here in our own obscure corner of the internet world.

Good grief, let's get a little perspective here.

 

[mva1985]

Again, this is merely your opinion. The fruit of the endeavor will determine if it is true or false.

I suspect that it will prove to be a good endeavor. For, where there is less antagonism there is more room for growth.

Woob,

It is just your opinion that the forum should be split. You're entitled to it, and so am I.

 

[woobadooba]

Woob,

It is just your opinion that the forum should be split. You're entitled to it, and so am I.

That's right. And the end result will decide who is right.

 

[mva1985]

That's right. And the end result will decide who is right.

LOL. No it does not. People who are wrong still think they are right.

 

[woobadooba]

LOL. No it does not. People who are wrong still think they are right.

The fruit of the Holy Spirit is never wrong. We will just have to see where the fruit is when this is complete.

 

[TrustAndObey]

Splitting the forum is a very bad idea.

I have to ask why you feel this way because you know I value your opinion.

If people are truly miserable posting here, what is the point in trying to keep the appearance of togetherness when it's obviously not there.

We've had several people come to this forum and post just a few comments and end up leaving over the way they were treated.

Wouldn't you prefer a forum where the REAL Adventist message is discussed and presented?

I'd really like to know why you feel this way.

 

[woobadooba]

I just want to make it clear to people that know this poll exists, but don't vote, that it is final. When it ends in four days whatever the majority vote is will determine the fate of this forum.

If people come in here and say they didn't vote, therefore the poll shouldn't count, that's just going to be too bad. Four days is more than enough time to vote. And if people refuse to vote then that was their choice. They will have to deal with whatever outcome results from this.

 

[DarylFawcett]

That is assuming that Erwin agrees to splitting this forum.

 

[woobadooba]

That is assuming that Erwin agrees to splitting this forum.

At has already been left up to us by Erwin. Consult T&O about this.

 

[djconklin]

Woob, you are an enigma, to be sure.

To hear someone who questions certain aspects of SDA doctrine speak so dogmatically and imperialistically in favor of the official party line-all I can do is just be amazed.

Whether you like it or not, you fall into the camp of those of us who have issues with certain church teachings. You are hardly orthodox SDA. And yet you demonize us every chance you get.

I am not even going to try to make any sense of that.

Split the freaking forum already. It's long overdue.

Why do we always have to resort to cotton-pickin' labeling?!? Is your cause so weak that it can't stand on its own?

 

[tall73]

The fruit of the Holy Spirit is never wrong. We will just have to see where the fruit is when this is complete.

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Righteousness by segregation is not a fruit of the Holy Spirit.

God loves even those who hate Him.

 

[TrustAndObey]

Tall, you annouonced you weren't going to vote anymore, no?

 

[woobadooba]

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Righteousness by segregation is not a fruit of the Holy Spirit.

God loves even those who hate Him.

I never said God doesn't love these people.

You seem to be confused.

It's an issue of doing what is best for the people of this forum.

Obviously the fruit of our union is not testifying of the love of God, or manifesting the ways of Jesus Christ. Therefore, we need to split, because there are those of us in here that are quite tired of abusive progressives that have nothing better to do with their time than to try to indoctrinate us with their false ideas, and murmur and complain about the SDA church, Ellen White, and incessantly insult those that don't agree with them.

Sorry, but this is final. There is no turning back now. I've had enough.

 

[tall73]

We were supposed to establish stricter rules to prevent certain behavior. As it stands, this hasn't happened, nor does it look like it is going to happen any time soon.

Moreover, what good will it do us to have stricter rules when the basic rules that we already have are proving to be worthless, as people continue to violate them?

Part of the problem is we have not voted our own forum-specific ban system. Two versions have been proposed in the wiki some time ago but no action was taken.

Essentially, the wiki process takes time. And every time a fight breaks out people abandon it and lose patience.

 

[tall73]

Tall, you annouonced you weren't going to vote anymore, no?

Both Woob and I said we would not be participating in wiki process. This is not a wiki vote, this is a vote from Erwin.

I am not participating in the wiki items because they take tons of time and I just don't have it. Every item has to be proposed, debated, formed into a workable poll, etc. And we have to keep moving people back to the process after each fight. We move in a couple days. so I just don't have time for all that.

 

[woobadooba]

Part of the problem is we have not voted our own forum-specific ban system. Two versions have been proposed in the wiki some time ago but no action was taken.

Essentially, the wiki process takes time. And every time a fight breaks out people abandon it and lose patience.

There is no turning back.

I've had enough.

This poll closes in 4 days.

 

[TrustAndObey]

A. Both Woob and I did
B. That was in wiki votes. This is not a wiki vote, this is a vote from Erwin.

I am not participating in the wiki items because they take tons of time and I just don't have it. We move in a couple days.

But Tall, here is something that I have a real problem with.

You and Woob BOTH voted for "stricter rules against personal attacks" to keep this forum together (I use that term lightly). I realize Woob has since changed his mind about not splitting.

Now neither one of you wants to help IMPLEMENT those rules?

I'm sorry, but that's not right.