Some Advice?

[Jon0388g]

Could I get everyone's input on this.

Recently I have grown very uncomfortable at a certain posts made by someone in the main forum.

I'm not sure how to deal with this. I've felt the presence of satanic influence before, and I get the same feeling when I read these posts. I know it sounds silly, but those who can see it too will understand.


Does anyone else recognise this? Am I/we to report this person, or privately PM?


There must be a peaceful, Christlike way to deal with this.



Jon

 

[OntheDL]

Could I get everyone's input on this.

Recently I have grown very uncomfortable at a certain posts made by someone in the main forum.

I'm not sure how to deal with this. I've felt the presence of satanic influence before, and I get the same feeling when I read these posts. I know it sounds silly, but those who can see it too will understand.

Does anyone else recognise this? Am I/we to report this person, or privately PM?

There must be a peaceful, Christlike way to deal with this.

Jon

Jon,

This person has had some traumatic experience in the past. Is it the best to tell them to just go away? Where would they from here? I was thinking if we can be a positive influence. But I realize it's a real struggle of whose influence is stronger.

So pray about it and do what the Lord impresses upon you.

 

[reddogs]

Could I get everyone's input on this.

Recently I have grown very uncomfortable at a certain posts made by someone in the main forum.

I'm not sure how to deal with this. I've felt the presence of satanic influence before, and I get the same feeling when I read these posts. I know it sounds silly, but those who can see it too will understand.


Does anyone else recognise this? Am I/we to report this person, or privately PM?


There must be a peaceful, Christlike way to deal with this.



Jon

We have to pray for the person making the posts and let them know, and if it gets to the point that others are affected then it has to be reported, not by one but a few brothers and sisters so there is consensus that it is not just one persons word against another, that is how we have been told to deal with it...

A Brother in Christ
Red

16But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
17And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican. Matthew 18:16-17

 

[DarylFawcett]

I also noticed those posts and was also concerned about them.

 

[mva1985]

If we are all referring to the same person - I have noticed what appears to be a darkness about them. Somewhat unsettling.

 

[honorthesabbath]

Maybe we should form a prayer circle and intercede for this person?

 

[Jon0388g]

Maybe we should form a prayer circle and intercede for this person?

I think we should. The Lord's hand is not waxed short.


I'll be praying for this person. And everyone else on this forum.


Jon

 

[woobadooba]

I hope you all realize that this spirit is present among us as the result of certain posters in here who have invited it through their constant complaining about our church and doctrines, and advertisements of satanic material.

Go to the Wiki and voice your opinion if you want to take action against it.

Otherwise, I suggest we reopen the option to separate ourselves from the progressives.

I may not be a traditional, but I am certainly sick and tired of all of this nonsense that the progressives are doing in here.

It's not right, and we need to do something about it.

I think we can separate from them without voting. If every traditional and Non-SDA no longer wishes to be identified with these people, we should have the right to have separate forums. Clearly the progressives outnumber us anyway.

I thought we could get along by making stricter rules, but that is not happening here. Things are just getting worse. Rule violations are happening everywhere in here, and it seems that nothing is being done about it to put a stop to all of this foolishness. So it is obvious that stricter rules really won't make a difference.

What do you say we band together and do something about this.

 

[Untamed Fire]

I do not post often, but I lurk and read, and I am slightly confused by this thread.

It begins, it seems, with asking about a specific person but it ends with a general complaint about "progressives" in general and a call for some sort of ruling to separate the forum.

My brethren, God has not called us to fragmentation and division but to unity. Please read John 17. These people are your brothers and sisters, and God has placed us all together to learn of one Master, Jesus Christ.

[bible]James 5:13-16[/bible]

Peace.

 

[DarylFawcett]

I agree with the last post here, however, I am concerned about any satanic element manifesting itself in any of the forums in the SDA section, as well as anywhere in what was once known as CF.

Is there an already existing general rule against this? If not then we need to quickly add it as a global one covering both the Main SDA and SDA sub-forums, which can be proposed in the wiki.

 

[woobadooba]

I do not post often, but I lurk and read, and I am slightly confused by this thread.

It begins, it seems, with asking about a specific person but it ends with a general complaint about "progressives" in general and a call for some sort of ruling to separate the forum.

My brethren, God has not called us to fragmentation and division but to unity. Please read John 17. These people are your brothers and sisters, and God has placed us all together to learn of one Master, Jesus Christ.

[bible]James 5:13-16[/bible]

Peace.

It is no longer evident that the progressives have what is best in mind for all members of this forum. The spirit that we are dealing with right now has come into our presence as a result of their constant complaining about our church and doctrines, and endless attacks on the people of this forum that do not agree with them.

And since I see that you believe in theistic evolution, I can't trust that your post reflects what God wants for those of us that are being affected by these people.

 

[Untamed Fire]

I agree with the last post here, however, I am concerned about any satanic element manifesting itself in any of the forums in the SDA section, as well as anywhere in what was once known as CF.

Sorry I'm not familiar with the reference. What is the "satanic element" you mention?

I'm concerned because these kinds of words ("satanic" etc.) are too frequently applied to simply indicate persons or positions with whom there is disagreement (and strong emotions attending it). While disagreement is uncomfortable, sometimes unpleasant indeed, it fosters growth of both character and understanding and is used by God for those purposes. I believe we need to trust the Lord that truth can and will triumph over deception and falsehood -- and by meeting the latter clothed in the garment of Christ's humility and love, rather than with "swords and spears" as it were, a great opportunity for the recovery of souls may be exercised that might be missed otherwise.

Again I'm not usually active on here but I feel called to write today. Forgive me if I have misread or misunderstood things; as mentioned I found this thread confusing and felt uncertain of its focus. What is the focus and purpose here?

 

[woobadooba]

Again I'm not usually active on here but I feel called to write today.

Called by whom?

 

[Jon0388g]

I hope you all realize that this spirit is present among us as the result of certain posters in here who have invited it through their constant complaining about our church and doctrines, and advertisements of satanic material.

Go to the Wiki and voice your opinion if you want to take action against it.

Otherwise, I suggest we reopen the option to separate ourselves from the progressives.

I may not be a traditional, but I am certainly sick and tired of all of this nonsense that the progressives are doing in here.

It's not right, and we need to do something about it.

I think we can separate from them without voting. If every traditional and Non-SDA no longer wishes to be identified with these people, we should have the right to have separate forums. Clearly the progressives outnumber us anyway.

I thought we could get along by making stricter rules, but that is not happening here. Things are just getting worse. Rule violations are happening everywhere in here, and it seems that nothing is being done about it to put a stop to all of this foolishness. So it is obvious that stricter rules really won't make a difference.

What do you say we band together and do something about this.

I still think we can and should pray without ceasing for this situation. What DL and Red said really hit home for me.


The constant bickering amongst TSDA and PSDA should die down once the official rules/specific forums are set up. This wasn't the issue I was raising.




Jon

 

[Untamed Fire]

It is no longer evident that the progressives have what is best in mind for all members of this forum. The spirit that we are dealing with right now has come into our presence as a result of their constant complaining about our church and doctrines, and endless attacks on the people of this forum that do not agree with them.

And since I see that you believe in theistic evolution, I can't trust that your post reflects what God wants for those of us that are being affected by these people.

Oh, does my profile still say that? LOL. Sorry. That was my view at one time, but not now. I have a hard time finding where to arrange those settings.

Could you be a little more specific about "The spirit that we are dealing with right now has come into our presence"? I've noticed on the threads some argumentativeness and such, pretty much like it was when I was last around this area of the board. There have always been theological debates, etc. on CF, and they are in all the congregational forums not just the SDA forum. Is there something in particular that is troubling you? If you are uncomfortable speaking here, feel free to send private message. I will be on for a little while longer but then I have errands to attend.

 

[Untamed Fire]

Called by whom?

Well I would like to say by God, but I do not want to be arrogant or think too highly of myself. So perhaps I should just say by my heart which I have given to God and trust to be in His keeping.

 

[Untamed Fire]

I still think we can and should pray without ceasing for this situation. What DL and Red said really hit home for me.


The constant bickering amongst TSDA and PSDA should die down once the official rules/specific forums are set up. This wasn't the issue I was raising.




Jon

Jon, what was? I'm just trying to get a clear picture here. It seems like two different matters are being discussed at once and maybe I have no business "butting in" but it's difficult to get what the focus of this thread is.

 

[woobadooba]

Could you be a little more specific about "The spirit that we are dealing with right now has come into our presence"? I've noticed on the threads some argumentativeness and such, pretty much like it was when I was last around this area of the board. There have always been theological debates, etc. on CF, and they are in all the congregational forums not just the SDA forum. Is there something in particular that is troubling you? If you are uncomfortable speaking here, feel free to send private message. I will be on for a little while longer but then I have errands to attend.

Take a look at this thread http://foru.ms/t5965141-the-exorcism-of-emily-rose.html

 

[OntheDL]

I'd say there are different levels of satanic influence in many. How can we say who's beyond salvation and who to keep out?

The wheat and the tares shall grow together to the very end. I don't know about the seperate forums. Where can I get some more information on it?

 

[woobadooba]

I'd say there are different levels of satanic influence in many. How can we say who's beyond salvation and who to keep out?

The wheat and the tares shall grow together to the very end. I don't know about the seperate forums. Where can I get some more information on it?

Indeed it is up to God to determine who is and isn't saved. However, we should show no sign of tolerance for blasphemy, and ideas that are an affront to God and His church.

It's one thing to be open-minded, and something entirely different to be antagonistic.