Some Advice?

[TrustAndObey]

Jon, obviously you aren't disappointing ME little brother. You couldn't even if you voted against the split.

I'm glad that you can see what is happening in that thread and it really just brings a lot of things more into focus (at least IMHO).

While I'm glad to know where Moriah is coming from a little more, I am still shocked that she could call satan her lover and not one Progressive spoke out against it.

The whole thread is going to get locked and deleted, I'm positive of that, even though I didn't report it myself.

I agree with OlikaMay that it was meant to make us look intolerant so they could blame us for her departure. Did we MAKE her say those things though? Of course we didn't.

I lost a lot of respect for a lot of people on here in that thread. People that I really did have respect for before.

I mostly lost respect for the people that didn't say ANYTHING.

 

[Jon0388g]

It is the silence of the progressives which disturbs me the most. Its like they are lying back watching this happen.

And I am extremely disappointed with Nighteternal. I thought up until now he was a man of integrity, regardless of his brash attitude. Moriah did not commit the greatest sin in that thread.


He who is for God, stand for God. He who is for Baal stand for Baal. Woob is right, what would Elijah say if he was visiting this forum? Seeing the amount of devilish images posted, not just words? It is disgusting.


Jon

 

[TrustAndObey]

I agree with everything you said Jon. I'm still just shaking my head.

I'm not surprised, but very, very disappointed by what transpired. It was sickening to watch and TRY to help but still get accused of not caring.

 

[OntheDL]

DL, did you notice that the person that called you a conspiracy theorist is constantly posting about conspiracies WITHIN the Adventist church? Like hiding the minutes from a 1919 meeting?

Yeah.

It's only a true conspiracy when others agree that it is, right?

I always believed in God and Jesus and I always felt a heavy burden on my heart to do what was right. I didn't always do it, and I'm very open about that, but I never quit hearing the still small voice....praise God!

Even though I believed in Them, I didn't really always LIKE Them. What I mean is, I couldn't understand eternal torment in hell. I was so relieved when I read the bible, but still confused about some of the verses that seem to imply eternal torment.

It hit me right away that bible study is imperative, not just a "good idea".

One of the first Sabbath school classes I went to talked about HOW to study the bible (according TO the bible).....and I am so grateful that it was one of the first ones because that study, above all the others, helped me the most.

The next study was the state of the dead.

Now I shared how I felt about that, that I had read the bible just to prove my mother-in-law WRONG, right?

Well there it was facing me like a brick wall and I can remember literally thinking to myself "okay Lainie, now is the time. You either totally believe it or you don't believe it at all and you need to find another church."

Line upon line, precept upon precept....I knew it was the truth. I was compelled to listen, led to listen, and now it is one of my favorite subjects because it just makes SO MUCH SENSE!

I think I've debated that subject more than any other, and although most of the time I felt like I was wasting my typing skills, I did have someone from GT tell me recently that they lurked on a thread where I was talking about it....and now they're Adventist.

Hallelujah! You should do a FAQ/sticky on the state of the dead after the dust settles down. We should do this for all our unique doctrines.

The immortality of the soul and the disregard of God holy sabbath are the two identifying characteristics of a false religion. Examine each and every denomination, what do we have left?

Night mentioned that people should be flocking to our church in droves, and I still contend that the reason they don't is because of our message about the state of the dead. People WANT to believe in the fairytale.

I read so many stories that the evangelists came to town and converted and baptised hundreds in a campaign. The new converts happily joined their new church. But a year or so later, where are they?

Calling God's people out of Babylon. But where would they go? The church is not ready to receive them.

However, there are just as many people that cannot understand a God that would torment the wicked through the ceaseless ages of eternity, and I think that is a VERY important message to get out there...that He DOESN'T.

Up until recently we couldn't talk about that subject on here, and now that we can, I haven't had as much time to come here.

I need to make time because God has obviously paved the way for us to get that message out <hint hint to the rest of you>.

Give people the God they KNOW exists, but struggle with because they feel He isn't that merciful. Every single one of us has lost someone that wasn't a Christian and we know what it's like to imagine them in agony, suffering every second.

Them sleeping is BETTER than that fairytale we hear so much about!

Once they accept that biblical truth, the rest falls in line and you realize it all really is a conspiracy theory. Satan mixes lies in with the truth, and when you realize just how subtle he really is.....wow.

 

[OntheDL]

One more thing (lol...I'm sorry I'm Chatty Cathy this morning)....

I grew up being told to obey the 10 commandments. There wasn't any wiggle room, you obeyed them because you love God and that's definitely what Baptists teach.

What's funny is that my childhood pastor went through all ten of the commandments one Sunday and got to the Sabbath commandment and said "you're obeying that one right now by being here."

So as I read the bible for the first time, there was absolutely NO doubt in my mind that the Sabbath was still very important. I read how Christ fought the Pharisees so adamantly about it, etc. but I didn't realize that Saturday was the seventh day.

I've mentioned before that things just fall in my lap when I'm praying for answers, and the Sabbath was like that too.

My son was watching Noggin and every day they go through the days of the week and they'll say something like "today is Saturday. The seventh day of the week!"

I'd heard it before on that station, but I had JUST finished reading about Jesus rebuking the Pharisees for trying to say He had broken the Sabbath when it came on one day.

So I got online and looked, and sure enough, Saturday is the 7th day.

I know this probably sounds lame to some of you, but I always believed that Sunday was the last day of the week. That's why school started on Monday,etc. Saturday and Sunday are always referred to as the "weekend".

I'm being totally serious here. We never went over what order the days fall into in school, so I just assumed Sunday was the 7th day.

When I first joined this site, I started a questionnaire where you can win blessings, etc One of the first questions I asked was "which day of the week is the seventh day?"

You would not believe how many people clicked on SUNDAY! So I definitely wasn't alone!

There really are some people out there that think Sunday is the 7th day, so they do believe in the commandment and want to keep it, but don't have a clue that they're doing it on the wrong day! I was one of 'em.

There is an interesting fact on this...

China historically had no weekly system in their lunar calendar. After the catholic missionary went there in the 16th century, the Chinese Emperor commissioned the Jesuits to reform the chinese calendar because of the jesuits' mastery in astronomy and astrology.

After the chinese lunar calendar was reformed by the Jesuits, the weekly system was added into each month.

Guess what each day of week is called now (to this day)???

Monday is called the first day of the week, Tuesday 2nd...Saturday the sixth day of the week. Guess what Sunday is called??? The Day of Worship!

 

[TrustAndObey]

Sarah, on all the calendars we've had, it looks like Sunday is the last day of the week.

I always got free calendars from work though, so they grouped the Sat/Sun as the "weekEND" and then the rest are work days.

Even my online calendar is like that.

Crazy...but it's that "subtle" thing I was talking about.

 

[OntheDL]

Wow. There's a lot of stuff I don't think I wanted to know about my new church. *lol*

There was a time I honestly thought that everyone within the Adventist faith believed everything it taught, because it was just simply true. I thought it was a perfect church. Although waaaay off, there was some nice qualities of being in that nieave place.

You mentioned CUC. I've been campaigning with my family to go there for several months, after what I believe to be a sign from God that showed me to do so. (Lonnng story there). Where did Moriah talk about that? Getting slightly confused on whether it'd be a good idea to keep up the idea to go or just go to a secular Uni instead.

I couldn't find the post where Moriah said the CUC president taught her the art of demon possession. CF search function is a joke! I also have a video recording of Willian Loveless (CUC pres.) training the new pastors with such craft.

Ephesians 5:11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them.

One of our callings is to expose the wickedness of the man of sin. Unfortunately very few people are willing to see.

Nonetheless, I completely agree. For every bit of corruption that Satan manages to weasle into our Church, there will be God bringing in more of His Truth. For every one that leaves, another will join. He's not going to let Satan win completely, right?

I wouldn't have posted it if I didn't think you can handle it. The truth shall set you free. If you look at every denomination, the majority of the members are lukewarm while a minority is sincere. How do we distinguish them? By their doctrines. When the persecution begins, the church buildings will be closed down, the majority of the members will become sundaykeepers. The faithful remnants will be scattered. So adventism is not so much a denomination but a movement. My faith is in our unique endtime message, not what mortal men may do.

About going to CUC, if that's what you want to do, go for it. Just be prepared for the potential problems. If you're consecrated, God will lead and protect you against the temptations.

 

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

all of you who exploited my thread/post for your personal gain and personal interest, whether in regard to the "split" issue or anything else? you ALL have erred. you ALL have failed at life. you ALL are subject to judgment by My Father, and He is most displeased.

 

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

my personal issues are NOT an issue of "progressives vs. traditionals" etc. SCREW your stupid inter-nicene war. SCREW you ALL for caring more about that than about me. God has seen and HE will judge. And NO i am NOT going to mince words or be "nice" about it. YOU FAILED. YOU FAILED. YOU FAILED.

 

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

exploiters.
rapists.

RAPISTS.

When a girl says NO .... IT MEANS NO.

IT MEANS NO!!!!!!!!!!!


exploiters
exploiters
exploiters



rapists.....

 

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

I couldn't find the post where Moriah said the CUC president taught her the art of demon possession. CF search function is a joke! I also have a video recording of Willian Loveless (CUC pres.) training the new pastors with such craft.

The thread is titled, "Where is Jesus Now?" or something along those lines ... I can dig it up if need be. But I am not sure i posted the whole story there. my consciousness is fragmented, in shards, i can say something and then the next moment forget what i am speaking about.... you must understand ... this is not an "affect" but a reality i live with moment to moment, that and .... and ..... ........ .....................

One of our callings is to expose the wickedness of the man of sin. Unfortunately very few people are willing to see.

expose me then. strip me bare. subject me to judgment. matter (mater) of FACT come FIND ME and SLAY ME if you so desire, you will be doing me a favor.

About going to CUC, if that's what you want to do, go for it. Just be prepared for the potential problems. If you're consecrated, God will lead and protect you against the temptations.

it has been several years since the taint of william loveless. doubtless the school is safe now? one may hope.

 

[smooze]

Sooooooooo anyways .............hows everybody tonight? GOD Bless and keep you all