At Crossroads -- Cf's Vision - Poll Vote only here

[Loki]

"Why have you returned to trouble us?"

We just gonna keep trading this line back and forth?

 

[Angeldove97]

Yeah. Sort of a leap into the unknown in more than one way.

I had wanted to keep it hidden for now, to avoid controversy and bad feelings, and also to simply see how it felt just to me, in private.

But if the poll settles against the non-Nicene members, then I may have less than a week to wear it. Hidden or not, the staff can see it.

Congrads to you Sister Depending on which way CF goes, there is still hope in allowing non-Nicene Christians to still wear the cross. I was upset with it at first but I now see where we had error in doing such a thing. If Jesus is your Savior and you believe that He is God... then I'm fine with calling you a Sister, I think that's what it comes down to.

 

[Tonks]

It appears to be a disaster to those who have trouble dealing with temporary uncertainty.

Wither Liberal Theology......

 

[Angeldove97]

I think that if staff were selected because they wanted to serve the members rather than dominate them we would have a far better forum

I hope staffers who do want to be on staff for the power get removed---I have no problem working with members to weed out the bad apples.

 

[CaDan]

[/SIZE][/FONT]CaDan I would like to see an area devoted to all members for fellowship and discussion. I also think the prereform wiki congregational areas are needed also and needed to be christian only for the edification of believers and for discussion of issues that affect those congregations.

I think wiki rule needs to end , it isnt working and it isnt designed for rules. I agree the rules prewiki need to be reformed.

I think the rules of the board need to be clear and not overly vague so there is no question of what is and isnt a violation. I do not disagree with staff forums being open however there is also a need for closed staff forums when there is a confidentiality matter and harrassment etc.. is concerned.

I do not agree on voting on mod applications- service on a christian board should not be done by mob rule or popularity contests but by ability to minister and ability to understand and apply the rules fairly. If voting is going to happen though i think limitations need to be made on those voting and it should be limited to members who have invested much time and posts into this site who have exhibited that they follow what happens here. Popularity contests only serve to ensure a friends need will be met and do not ensure a good moderator.

In fact i think a good way to do this would be to eliminate the name of the person being reported - so JUST what has been stated in the post is looked at. I dont know how this could be accomplished though. When i was a mod i moderated posts not people. I see and still see a ton of moderation happening based on who someone is instead of being based on what has been stated and thats so so wrong.

I think under no circumstances should a non believer or one of any religion other than orthodox christianity be a moderator over any area that deals with orthodox christian beliefs or outreach areas and under no circumstances should any religion or lack of be promoted on this board

There should be a place where members who have received staff actions can ask about them to other staff members besides the staff team where the action occured. Privately if it involves confidentiality matters but publically if it doesnt.

Hows that for a start , anything else you can ask me what you would like to know how i think about it as this is all i can think of right now.

I think I agree with about 80% of this.

It's getting too late in the evening for me to have a serious discussion with you about this, but let's talk further, via PM if necessary to avoid distraction. Maybe we can come up with something we can sell to both our "constituencies."

 

[Tonks]

Congrads to you Sister Depending on which way CF goes, there is still hope in allowing non-Nicene Christians to still wear the cross. I was upset with it at first but I now see where we had error in doing such a thing. If Jesus is your Savior and you believe that He is God... then I'm fine with calling you a Sister, I think that's what it comes down to.

I totally agree. I just wish that there were effective measures in place to deal with the 1% that make life miserable for everyone else.

 

[Angeldove97]

Wiki is a process that takes time.

It appears to be a disaster to those who have trouble dealing with temporary uncertainty.

Good point--- kinda reminds me how people were scared and uncertain of their Savior when He was dead for three days.

 

[CaDan]

We just gonna keep trading this line back and forth?

The Brothers Karamazov ftw.

 

[fragmentsofdreams]

I'm not sure what the options mean, so I didn't vote.

 

[Angeldove97]

I totally agree. I just wish that there were effective measures in place to deal with the 1% that make life miserable for everyone else.

What I think would help is all of us dropping the idea that staff are horrible, heartless people. If one staff member hurts you, it doesn't mean the rest of staff would have done the same thing.

 

[Da_Funkey_Gibbon]

What about option 3 - stay where we are?

Meh, I'm gonna abstain because the options are so vague.

 

[RedTulipMom]

The point here is that, bottom line, our opinions really should not matter. This is YOUR website. Hence YOU should take it in any direction that YOU see fit. The real issue here is the name: Christians are unhappy with the changes because they do not reflect what the name stands for. So what you need to do is think long and hard as to what message you want your website to promote. And go from there.

Anybody who is unhappy can just pick up and leave.

In the end, this is YOUR site. Never loose track of that .

i dont know...maybe this is God's site and NOT Erwin's Site! Maybe Erwin needs to remember that! Maybe PRAYER is what is needed here..by Erwin, by Staff and by all the Christian members! Let us all pray that GOD takes CF into his hands and guides it into the direction HE wants!

All this fighting has been about what WE want. What liberals want. What conservatives want. What Erwin wants. What the Staff wants. What the Atheists want. What about what GOD wants???????

i am not voting in this poll just yet..im spending the next couple days in prayer praying GODS WILL BE DONE! I ask you all to join me!!

 

[Angeldove97]

I think we can stay where we are---I just see the options as a ultimate goal, vague in detail but at least we can be more certain of a path. Minor details will be hashed out later but what attitude we want to portray for CF can be voted on now (or after you've thought on or prayed about it first).

 

[Loki]

I totally agree. I just wish that there were effective measures in place to deal with the 1% that make life miserable for everyone else.

God was willing to save the cities of the plain for the sake of ten; you would exclude the non-believers to punish the 1%?

 

[Angeldove97]

Maybe PRAYER is what is needed here..by Erwin, by Staff and my all the Christian members! Let us all pray that GOD takes CF into his hands and guides it into the direction HE wants!

What about what GOD wants???????

i am not voting in this poll just yet..im spending the next couple days in prayer praying GODS WILL BE DONE! I ask you all to joine me!!

Amen!!!! I was posting my last post as you were writing that... that's exactly what should be done! And that's why I changed my custom title under my name to what it is now.

Thank you for this post!

 

[Glass*Soul]

Congrads to you Sister Depending on which way CF goes, there is still hope in allowing non-Nicene Christians to still wear the cross. I was upset with it at first but I now see where we had error in doing such a thing. If Jesus is your Savior and you believe that He is God... then I'm fine with calling you a Sister, I think that's what it comes down to.

I feel like I'm deceiving people, which is something I did not want to do. Please read my profile.

I'm going to hide the cross. I've gotten a zillion rep points in the last half hour and I'm afraid to look at the comments.

I apologize.

 

[Tonks]

God was willing to save the cities of the plain for the sake of ten; you would exclude the non-believers to punish the 1%?

My remarks were not directed towards "non-believers" but Christians and non-Christians alike who equally seem to have a inability like decent human beings.

For the most part it is the Christians that I see that have poor behavior. Some of the posts are very disappointing.

 

[Angel4Truth]

I think I agree with about 80% of this.

It's getting too late in the evening for me to have a serious discussion with you about this, but let's talk further, via PM if necessary to avoid distraction. Maybe we can come up with something we can sell to both our "constituencies."

When you are ready just pm me since we both seem to represent both sides of this issue overall - maybe we can come up with something that is workable and not too much of a compromise for either side. Im willing to try it.

 

[cassie121]

Option 1- I mean did Jesus tell us to hide from the world and stay in our community? No he told us go make decisples of all nations....Everyone should be welcomed also do to that whole love everyone thing...I mean comon people basic scripture. I mean I understand wanting Christian only places but isn't that kinda what church is for?

 

[Loki]

My remarks were not directed towards "non-believers" but Christians and non-Christians alike who equally seem to have a inability like decent human beings.

For the most part it is the Christians that I see that have poor behavior. Some of the posts are very disappointing.

And yet you voted to revert to the closed door system that would exclude those without the special badge from posting in a good part of this site.