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[annaapple]

OK, no time to read all the pages I missed. Thinking of you all. AF showed up this morning for me. Gutted.

 

[Maharg]

OK, no time to read all the pages I missed. Thinking of you all. AF showed up this morning for me. Gutted.

 

[jenrenee]

OK, no time to read all the pages I missed. Thinking of you all. AF showed up this morning for me. Gutted.

So sorry!! Well, now you can join me and Assisi in our misery, as AF showed for both of us as well.

HUGS!! And Prayers for next month!!

 

[livin4christ9203]

well someone told me that with the progesterone test... they want it to be above 2 to show that I ovulated... but over 10 to be able to get pregnant and hold on to the pregnancy..and they said.. it was probably over 2 and less than 10. So, I may be ovulating, but my levels may be too low to have a successful pregnancy

They want me to have normal cycles.. and I know people take provera to do this. I was reading some info on it too.. and it said that takingprovera can prove if your pregnant or not.. i even saw some things that said people took it early in the pregnancy to help prevent miscarriage. The dr. is the one that told the nurse to call me and do this.

But I'm still a little uncertain.

 

[jenrenee]

Speaking of progesterone tests, I'm still upset that the doctor wouldn't give me the test. He said they would only do it if I had a third miscarraige. Yeah - I know, what a thing to wait for! Anyway, I've been thinking that if I do have low prog (I don't know because they won't do the test), will the Clomid help? And if not, I've heard of buying prog cream over the counter and using that just in case - but if I don't have low prog, will it hurt to use it?

 

[livin4christ9203]

provera is what helps the progesterone I believe. Clomid helps you to ovulate. It's crazy he won't test you for it. That was the first thing they wanted to do to me. to see if i'm even ovulating.

 

[jenrenee]

provera is what helps the progesterone I believe. Clomid helps you to ovulate. It's crazy he won't test you for it. That was the first thing they wanted to do to me. to see if i'm even ovulating.

That's what I keep hearing! It's so frustrating - I even argued with him a little about it. I thought, I'm spending the money, what difference does it make? I think he's the only doctor around that won't do that test. I talked to DH - he's not thrilled about going to a specialist (afraid of spending the money, since our ins probably won't cover it), but I think if Clomid doesn't help, we'll probably go see a specialist in a few months - and stop messing with these small town doctors. I probably should have done that to begin with. Anyway, I'm really glad that your tests seem to be moving right along - it shouldn't take you long to be holding that baby!

 

[livin4christ9203]

That's what I keep hearing! It's so frustrating - I even argued with him a little about it. I thought, I'm spending the money, what difference does it make? I think he's the only doctor around that won't do that test. I talked to DH - he's not thrilled about going to a specialist (afraid of spending the money, since our ins probably won't cover it), but I think if Clomid doesn't help, we'll probably go see a specialist in a few months - and stop messing with these small town doctors. I probably should have done that to begin with. Anyway, I'm really glad that your tests seem to be moving right along - it shouldn't take you long to be holding that baby!

couldn't you just try a different OB or is it a GP you are going to? I go to my OB/GYN.. there are like 4 Dr's in this office.. and the one I'm going to is the best with infertility. But his title is OB/GYN.. he's not an RE

 

[livin4christ9203]

Well, I talked to the dr.. well the nurse.. but she talked to the dr. She told me that if I feel like I might be pregnant to wait till the end of the week... and test.. before taking provera. So, if the progesterone test showed that I O'd.. then how far after O, can a test read positive, if you are pregnant? So, I will go from the last date.. which could have been possible if they read it, which would have been Wednesday.. probably.. could have been sooner.. but we will say that was the latest since it showed up on the test.

 

[jenrenee]

couldn't you just try a different OB or is it a GP you are going to? I go to my OB/GYN.. there are like 4 Dr's in this office.. and the one I'm going to is the best with infertility. But his title is OB/GYN.. he's not an RE

Actually, I'm just going to my regular every day doctor. I live in such a rural area that we don't have any specialists here. He is the one that does most pregancies in the area, but I don't think they have much knowledge on infertility. If I go to a specialist, I will have to go to a city about 2 hours away. I live out in the middle of nowhere! I've tried other doctors in the area but they were even worse... I am willing to drive the two hours though, I just have to see if it's covered under our insurance and talk DH into it - like I said, in a few months if Clomid doesn't help. But I definitely should have started out with them.

 

[LovesEnduringPromise]

Havent had my period since April. It seems like forever ago.....I went to the doc, I had cysts on my ovaries and my hormone level is out of wack....but they are gonna put me on birth control to fix it....anybody else been on birht control to fix that sorta thing.....what was it like?

 

[livin4christ9203]

Actually, I'm just going to my regular every day doctor. I live in such a rural area that we don't have any specialists here. He is the one that does most pregancies in the area, but I don't think they have much knowledge on infertility. If I go to a specialist, I will have to go to a city about 2 hours away. I live out in the middle of nowhere! I've tried other doctors in the area but they were even worse... I am willing to drive the two hours though, I just have to see if it's covered under our insurance and talk DH into it - like I said, in a few months if Clomid doesn't help. But I definitely should have started out with them.

If an RE isn't, look for a regular OB in that area.. OB's are almost always covered.. at least for the the diagnosing and testing part. Some of the treatments they do for Fertility are not covered by insurance.. but that doesn't really have anything to do with who the dr. is. Unless you have an EPO insurance where they ahve to be recommended.

 

[annaapple]

Wow, it has been some hectic week! This is the first time I've sat down at the computer with more than 2 mins! Just wanted to say to everyone. let you know that I am thinking of you all and you are in my and an especially big to JenRenee and Assisi, cycling sisters, it would seem.

Lovesdolphins - really hope the boobs are a sign!

for a BFP somewhere round here soon!

Do any of you know anyone 'in real life' who is in the same position as you that you can talk to about ttc? I don't know anyone. But I do tell people, "we'd love to have another baby" - I figure if I say it first than maybe they won't ask in an insensitive way, you know? And maybe someone will say, "me too - but it isn't going so well".

 

[LittleFoot]

I don't know anyone in real life that is going through this.

My MIL tries to relate... She took clomid for her second... took 1 cycle of it, but her first and her second are only 2 years apart... exactly how close DID she want them? *rolls eyes*

So online is my haven of empathy. It's hard because no one else understand why I burst into tears at church or just at random. They probably all think I'm crazy. Most of all I hate it when someone that is JUST trying gets pregnant and they act like it's a HUGE miracle and won't stop talking about it.

12/01/06 - Septum resection
6/03/07 - 50mg Clomid 5-9 P4- 66.1 BFN
7/05/07 - 25mg Clomd 5-7
Cycle#38 - Cycle#7 after septum resection

The nice part about being a pessimist is that you are constantly being either proven right or pleasantly surprised.

 

[Assisi]

lovesdolphins - praying hard for a BFP for you!

Speaking of progesterone tests, I'm still upset that the doctor wouldn't give me the test. He said they would only do it if I had a third miscarraige. Yeah - I know, what a thing to wait for! Anyway, I've been thinking that if I do have low prog (I don't know because they won't do the test), will the Clomid help? And if not, I've heard of buying prog cream over the counter and using that just in case - but if I don't have low prog, will it hurt to use it?

Jenrenee! I'm not even you and I'm angry that your doctor wouldn't test your progesterone. I think it's outrageous that you would have to have another miscarriage first. I've been complaining to my husband and my mum about your doctor . I don't know about the progesterone cream...so I can't help you there. But I would seriously try either crying or bullying the doctor into letting you have that test, like you said - it's your money.

Progesterone's something you've got to look into, and I'd be hesitant to guess about it. If your levels are low it will make it very difficult to carry past the first couple of weeks...but if it gets too high it can be an abortifacient. That doctor of yours needs to do that test!! (Give me his number, I'll give him what for!!)

Well, I talked to the dr.. well the nurse.. but she talked to the dr. She told me that if I feel like I might be pregnant to wait till the end of the week... and test.. before taking provera. So, if the progesterone test showed that I O'd.. then how far after O, can a test read positive, if you are pregnant? So, I will go from the last date.. which could have been possible if they read it, which would have been Wednesday.. probably.. could have been sooner.. but we will say that was the latest since it showed up on the test.

I had a positive result at 8dpo. If they are trying to help you conceive, why are they giving you progesterone at such a dose that it will make you bleed? It may be at a low dose, in which case you'll only bleed if you're not pregnant.

Havent had my period since April. It seems like forever ago.....I went to the doc, I had cysts on my ovaries and my hormone level is out of wack....but they are gonna put me on birth control to fix it....anybody else been on birht control to fix that sorta thing.....what was it like?

A friend of mine had to use the pill to fix some similar problems - but she was also hemorrhaging. She went on the pill for a few months or so to get fixed.

Do any of you know anyone 'in real life' who is in the same position as you that you can talk to about ttc? I don't know anyone. But I do tell people, "we'd love to have another baby" - I figure if I say it first than maybe they won't ask in an insensitive way, you know? And maybe someone will say, "me too - but it isn't going so well".

Sorry to hear about AF annaapple. It's so hard...every month!

I think that my brother and sister (DH's brother and his wife) are trying and that they have been trying for about two and a half years.
And my cousin tried for two and a half years or so, she just had a little boy in May. It's good because she understands how I feel and can be very sympathetic and encouraging.

It's easier to know these things within families. It's more difficult with friends and acquaintances from church etc. The only married (close) friend I have has never had any trouble conceiving, and I have another friend (from church) who keeps telling me how she and her husband want to start trying for their first soon (which actually isn't very helpful because it makes me feel pressured).

Wow. After writing all this I realised that I know a lot of the details of a lot of people when it comes to when they want to try for a child, whether they are now or not, and whether they have/have had/are scared of having trouble. I think people talk to me about it because I talk to them about it first...maybe, you should go out on a limb and tell people you're 'having a hard time at the moment because you're hoping to be pregnant' ???

 

[Assisi]

After several cycles of TTC after our miscarriage in February...I'm not getting better, I'm getting worse. I think that the constant 'not knowing' when/if we'll be pregnant again is taking its toll on me - I'm an emotional wreck at the end of every cycle! This cycle was better, but I can tell I'm still not myself.

So Eddie and I are planning/thinking/praying about avoiding pregnancy again (ie stop trying) so that I can get my head in order. At least if I know I can't be pregnant I won't be so on edge during the 2ww.We're still very unsure that this is the right step for us. I feel like I don't want to miss an opportunity, and I also feel like I don't want to give up the hope of being pregnant.

Does anyone have any advice?

 

[lovesdolphins]

After several cycles of TTC after our miscarriage in February...I'm not getting better, I'm getting worse. I think that the constant 'not knowing' when/if we'll be pregnant again is taking its toll on me - I'm an emotional wreck at the end of every cycle! This cycle was better, but I can tell I'm still not myself.

So Eddie and I are planning/thinking/praying about avoiding pregnancy again (ie stop trying) so that I can get my head in order. At least if I know I can't be pregnant I won't be so on edge during the 2ww.We're still very unsure that this is the right step for us. I feel like I don't want to miss an opportunity, and I also feel like I don't want to give up the hope of being pregnant.

Does anyone have any advice?

I'm sorry girl - I understand your pain of not getting pregnant. I haven't ever felt the pain of a loss, and I'm sorry that you have.

You are still young - maybe just a few months of not really trying will help you to feel better, mentally. THen you can return with a new resolve on the situation.

I will keep you in my prayers.

 

[livin4christ9203]

I had a positive result at 8dpo. If they are trying to help you conceive, why are they giving you progesterone at such a dose that it will make you bleed? It may be at a low dose, in which case you'll only bleed if you're not pregnant.

They are giving it to me.. because I have very irregular cycles and it will make me start a period/cycle.. and then I can chart or use an OPK.. it can sometimes be all someone needs to get their body kick started to work properly. If it doesn't work, then next month they will put me on that.. to start it.. and then clomid to make me ovulate..

I read that if I'm pregnant it wouldn't cause me to bleed.. but.. it still has a chance for birth defects from taking it, which is why I'm deciding to play it safe and wait till I can test. Which will most likely be next Saturday.

I'm on CD 25 and I've had sore boobs since CD 23.... which depending on when I ovulated.. which had to be between day 14 and day 20.. since it came up on the progesterone test on cd 21.. so CD 23 could have been anywhere from 9 DPO to 3 DPO.... Could I have a symptom that early? 3 DPO.. being safe of course... and trying not to waste money on HPT's. Of course it could be more than that... but it just seemed a bit early to be because of AF either way.. but of couse I could be wrong.

It's so confusing!

 

[livin4christ9203]

Are they allowing us to put tickers with links in our signatures now? They didn't use to let us. I had to take mine off the time I tried to put one on.

 

[jenrenee]

If an RE isn't, look for a regular OB in that area.. OB's are almost always covered.. at least for the the diagnosing and testing part. Some of the treatments they do for Fertility are not covered by insurance.. but that doesn't really have anything to do with who the dr. is. Unless you have an EPO insurance where they ahve to be recommended.

That makes sense - I'm sure I could find one, even if it does require a little driving... I really need to call my insurance company and see how much they will cover.

Do any of you know anyone 'in real life' who is in the same position as you that you can talk to about ttc? I don't know anyone. But I do tell people, "we'd love to have another baby" - I figure if I say it first than maybe they won't ask in an insensitive way, you know? And maybe someone will say, "me too - but it isn't going so well".

Well, I used to! My SIL, even though she wasn't married, was ttc. Well, she beat me - she's pg now. I do meet a lot of people, though, that tell me they were in my position - couldn't get pg, had m/c, etc. So I feel like they can kind of understand what I'm going through and I feel comfortable talking to them about it.

Jenrenee! I'm not even you and I'm angry that your doctor wouldn't test your progesterone. I think it's outrageous that you would have to have another miscarriage first. I've been complaining to my husband and my mum about your doctor . I don't know about the progesterone cream...so I can't help you there. But I would seriously try either crying or bullying the doctor into letting you have that test, like you said - it's your money.

Progesterone's something you've got to look into, and I'd be hesitant to guess about it. If your levels are low it will make it very difficult to carry past the first couple of weeks...but if it gets too high it can be an abortifacient.That doctor of yours needs to do that test!! (Give me his number, I'll give him what for!!)

LOL! I would love to give you his number!! Thanks for being angry on my behalf! At least I'm not the only one! My problem is that I'm such a shy, reserved person that I have a hard time bullying anyone - even if I am right. I have argued with him though. I've been in three different times and tried to talk him into it, but nothing. My argument was that with my last two m/c, I still had AF as regular - so I told him I could have had other m/c's and just not known - so why WAIT for another one? The lack of a prog test is my biggest reason for wanting to go see someone else... I think I will look into finding an OB, but will probably have to go farther away to find one. That's okay though...

So Eddie and I are planning/thinking/praying about avoiding pregnancy again (ie stop trying) so that I can get my head in order. At least if I know I can't be pregnant I won't be so on edge during the 2ww.We're still very unsure that this is the right step for us. I feel like I don't want to miss an opportunity, and I also feel like I don't want to give up the hope of being pregnant.

Does anyone have any advice?

I can completely understand. I did this as well about 6 months ago. We didn't really give up (I couldn't - I was too obsessed But we quit counting everything, etc. It really did help with the stress... I guess my advice is not to completely give up - just relax for a few months and don't do anything special to ttc. That way the option to get pg is stilll there, but you are still kind of taking a break. You have to know what is best for you though. Good luck with whatever you decide to do!