Homosexuality

[DMagoh]

Yeah, and someone here mentions animals to compare to 2 consenting humans. How much sicker do we have to get to make our points here? thank you for proving my side points, all the more.

Who's next...someone want to compare this to pedophilia again?

If I offended anyone with the animal comment it was not my intent, and I apologize. However, it should be noted that I didnt compare it to 2 consenting male adults...the Bible did, in verses back to back. I just stated what it said. These verses are back to back in the same chapter.

22 " 'Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable.
23 " 'Do not have sexual relations with an animal and defile yourself with it. A woman must not present herself to an animal to have sexual relations with it; that is a perversion.
Leviticus 18:22-23

 

[davedjy]

If I offended anyone with the animal comment it was not my intent, and I apologize. However, it should be noted that I didnt compare it to 2 consenting male adults...the Bible did, in verses back to back. I just stated what it said. These verses are back to back in the same chapter.

22 " 'Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable.
23 " 'Do not have sexual relations with an animal and defile yourself with it. A woman must not present herself to an animal to have sexual relations with it; that is a perversion.
Leviticus 18:22-23

You are quoting 2 purity code violations...

pull the scripture up in blueletterbible.org

Don't you read the threads here? we talk about this ad nauseam, I even gave you the 2 websites, when you "inquired" about this information.

 

[intricatic]

Sorry, you'll have to excuse my bluntness, that caught me off guard.

The Holy Spirit aids the believer in understanding, and teaches us how to see things through Spiritual eyes - that is, beyond the letter and to the spirit of the words. He also grants us supplication and grace in our every day lives to learn to consistently apply that understanding to our attitudes and approach to situations and how we treat people we encounter.

 

[davedjy]

If I offended anyone with the animal comment it was not my intent, and I apologize. However, it should be noted that I didnt compare it to 2 consenting male adults...the Bible did, in verses back to back. I just stated what it said. These verses are back to back in the same chapter.

22 " 'Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable.
23 " 'Do not have sexual relations with an animal and defile yourself with it. A woman must not present herself to an animal to have sexual relations with it; that is a perversion.
Leviticus 18:22-23

Those verses are also not all ONE LONG sentence. They are separate verses that you put together. Don't you know when you read verses they are not all one verse? LOL

 

[DMagoh]

You are quoting 2 purity code violations...

pull the scripture up in blueletterbible.org

Don't you read the threads here? we talk about this ad nauseam, I even gave you the 2 websites, when you "inquired" about this information.

Obviously, we'll never agree. Like I mentioned earlier, I have nothing against you. You are my brother in Christ. LIke I mentioned to you earlier, I WAS you 20 years ago. I struggled with SSA and I wish someone had cared enough about me 20 years ago to try to show me the truth. It would have saved me a lot of unnessary hurt and problems. I love you brother.

 

[davedjy]

Obviously, we'll never agree. Like I mentioned earlier, I have nothing against you. You are my brother in Christ. LIke I mentioned to you earlier, I WAS you 20 years ago. I struggled with SSA and I wish someone had cared enough about me 20 years ago to try to show me the truth. It would have saved me a lot of unnessary hurt and problems. I love you brother.

I told you...there is a difference between the purity code and Mosaic law. The Scholars agree this falls under a purity code violation, even the Conservative Tony Compalo believes it falls under the purity code in this chapter. Romans 1 is the ONLY argument, and it is weak at best. You cannot use pagan worship/idolatry to prove that same sex, monogamous relationships are wrong.

Anyways, no hard feelings

 

[DMagoh]

I told you...there is a difference between the purity code and Mosaic law. The Scholars agree this falls under a purity code violation, even the Conservative Tony Compalo believes it falls under the purity code in this chapter. Romans 1 is the ONLY argument, and it is weak at best. You cannot use pagan worship/idolatry to prove that same sex, monogamous relationships are wrong.

Anyways, no hard feelings

I love you brother. I really mean that. Even though you dont want me to, I am going to be praying for you. I wont pray that God makes you see it MY way, I will pray that God gives you wisdom to see it HIS way, whatever that is. That shouldnt bother you, because if you are right about what you are saying, then God will only confirm it for you as I pray for you daily. I just dont want to see you get messed up like I did.

 

[davedjy]

I love you brother. I really mean that. Even though you dont want me to, I am going to be praying for you. I wont pray that God makes you see it MY way, I will pray that God gives you wisdom to see it HIS way, whatever that is. That shouldnt bother you, because if you are right about what you are saying, then God will only confirm it for you as I pray for you daily. I just dont want to see you get messed up like I did.

I appreciate that, and I totally agree!

I will be praying for you, too.

 

[intricatic]

Those verses are also not all ONE LONG sentence. They are separate verses that you put together. Don't you know when you read verses they are not all one verse? LOL

Do you think it was originally read/written that way?

 

[davedjy]

Do you think it was originally read/written that way?

If it wasn't, then we must add the menstrual cycle one to your argument.

 

[intricatic]

If it wasn't, then we must add the menstrual cycle one to your argument.

Didn't I do that already?

 

[davedjy]

Didn't I do that already?

I dunno, but something is off...because I just got an answer to my prayer yesterday. God told me to be myself, and He would never ask me to change who I am.

 

[intricatic]

I dunno, but something is off...because I just got an answer to my prayer yesterday. God told me to be myself, and He would never ask me to change who I am.

He doesn't ask any of us to change who we are. He asks us to submit to Him, die, and be reborn in Christ, though.

 

[davedjy]

He doesn't ask any of us to change who we are. He asks us to submit to Him, die, and be reborn in Christ, though.

I've been reborn in Christ....what are you saying...are you implying I'm not a born again Christian?

 

[chris777]

I dunno, but something is off...because I just got an answer to my prayer yesterday. God told me to be myself, and He would never ask me to change who I am.

Are you saying you don't want to change?
Thats all I want to do, is Die to self.

 

[davedjy]

Are you saying you don't want to change?
Tahts all I want to do, is Die to self.

Change what?

 

[chris777]

Change what?

basically everything

 

[davedjy]

basically everything

That's a very ambiguous question?

 

[chris777]

That's a very ambiguous question?

It wasn't meant to be, it was meant to explain that I recognize the need for change, in myself, and for him to increase, and me to decrease.

 

[intricatic]

I've been reborn in Christ....what are you saying...are you implying I'm not a born again Christian?

I didn't mean it that way.