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WOW and other MMPOG - What am I missing?

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I've been gaming since who knows when, I own a PS2 and PS3 plus a PC that can handle most games out there but I've been avoiding rpgs for years now until the dawn of WOW: The burning crusade.

My question is rather dumb but I got to thinking: what am I missing? I can play pretty much any genre but rpgs, I don't know.
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I wouldn't dive into an MMORPG if you are new to RPGs. Get an offline one and see if you like the genre. I'd suggest the Fallout games, but that's partly because I'm not big into the brand of pseudo-Medieval Fantasy so many RPGs are based on; way way way too much magic for me. (Not that I think magic in games is wrong, but its over-used to the point everybody and their dog can cast spells at you and the game might as well take place in the Future with death-rays and the like. )
 
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Funny thing today that I am actually glad didn't happen...

I've played Ultima Online now for 8 years. It's been in a steady decline for the past 6 and has become more and more uninteresting. So today I walked into Best Buy and saw all those WoW:BC boxes and even a special edition. So I'm thinking to myself, maybe I will pick it up (even though I've played WoW on demo twice before and made it to high levels in a matter of a few days), however, I saw that even on the limited ub3r boxy edition that costs $70, you need to buy a copy of the original WoW to play the expansion. So I decided against it.

I'm having a hard time finding something to play for the moment. I'm tired of UO but I'm waiting for Darkfall as it seems to be the most of what I'm looking for with fully pvp world, deep crafting systems, not item oriented, player housing, UO style item GUI, etc.

WoW doesn't offer me what I want. The pvp is a joke at best, but the whole game is a grind for top level, then nothing but raids. That kind of play bores me after a few runs. So I'm pretty much stuck till Darkfall...

Vanguard is coming out soon, but while it's pretty, everyone who I've talked to who played it said it's nothing special and just implements several aspects from different games.

CJ
 
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What about Shadowbane? Isn't it fully PvP and allows guilds to build towns and control areas? I played the beta but didn't care much for it as I don't like full PvP.

IMO, the best treatment of PvP I've experienced was in DAoC where you could level without worrying about gankers but when you were ready to PvP, you just go to the frontier. I really liked the siege warfare as well, sending rogues to climb into the place and take out casters and healers, drawing the enemy out by attacking another keep that was less well defended, setting ambushes, etc. Of course there were things I didn't like about it but that's every game, I suppose.
 
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Greetings,

Well I too been a gamer since god knows when. I always enjoyed games where I work with other players. At first friends in the neighborhood, then my bro and I discovered MMORPGs. Starcraft, Diablo 1 and 2, UO, Anarchy Online, Starwars, Lineage 2, then WoW. Each game was a step up in graphics and just something new to explore. Just like any toy, get bored with it after a while and want something new to play with. MMORPGs is like reading a fun book, but you are the main charactor and others in the fictional world are other players. Work together, trade, fight, organize to achieve goals. Ultimately it is a time sink.

I recently broke from my WoW addiction, game is most evolved and intresting MMO I played. Also most clean one too, as you know ingame gold buyers and cheating usual bring MMOs to their knees over time. Why play long and hard when someone with money to blow can do in seconds what took days, months, or a year to achieve? Lineage 2 is an excellent case of this.

About MMOs, Final fantasy 1-6 got me hook, line, and sinker when I was young. After FF7, they don't intrest me much at all now.
 
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I've been gaming since who knows when, I own a PS2 and PS3 plus a PC that can handle most games out there but I've been avoiding rpgs for years now until the dawn of WOW: The burning crusade.

My question is rather dumb but I got to thinking: what am I missing? I can play pretty much any genre but rpgs, I don't know.
Help.


With an MMO it's really about the community. You really need to get into a big, friendly active guild in order to get the most out of an MMO. Playing with random people is no where near as fun as playing with people you KNOW.

My wife and I are in a guild that's very close, very friendly and fun to talk to and play with. Heck , all of us core members came from another MMO and we'll probably all move to antoher game whenever we all tire of WoW (which may be a long while)

When you have a connection to a group of people...it changes the entire experience of the game...when it's you and all your buddies going up against a giant beast or just doing regular old questing...the experience is 100x more enjoyable and indepth.
 
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JacobsDream RPG games are nothing to be afraid of however if you might want to start off with a single player game like Never Winter Nights: Diamond both to figure out if like the game play style and to get used to it before jumping into online.
 
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Thanks for all your input.
I concur with the idea of playing with friends or people you know or the game would be no fun.

Speaking of just not being a fan of rpgs, I haven't been but WOW must be the most popular game out there now period and its gotten to a point where reviewers say "even if you're not a fan, you have to try it".

I bought Medieval: Total War for my second cousin for his birthday, just because he asked for it and I went online a couple of weeks later and it was to my suprise on the list for game of the year.

I should start tracking friends down that play these games and take the plunge with them and see if it changes my life, lol. Its just not my kind of game but at some point, you have to ask what the hype is all about.
 
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JacobsDream RPG games are nothing to be afraid of however if you might want to start off with a single player game like Never Winter Nights: Diamond both to figure out if like the game play style and to get used to it before jumping into online.

I was looking at neverwinter nights or wow for a try.
 
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Thanks for all your input.
I concur with the idea of playing with friends or people you know or the game would be no fun.
Download the WoW trial from File Planet and see if it's for you.

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What about Shadowbane? Isn't it fully PvP and allows guilds to build towns and control areas? I played the beta but didn't care much for it as I don't like full PvP.
Shadowbane was pretty much a joke in my books. If you weren't part of the dominating clans, you didn't stand a chance. Plus, all it was was pvp. I want a game where there is so much more than just pvp. Crafting has always been big in my books. I like deep crafting systems that create player interaction.

CJ
 
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You really can't go wrong with WoW or Neverwinter Nights as fine examples of their genres. If you take a look at NWN i would recommend trying Hordes of the Underdark (after the orig) since it's imo a fantastic expansion.
Actually, I'd go so far as to suggest ignoring the original campaign and just starting from Shadows of Undrentide (the first expansion), which carries over into Hordes of the Underdark (the second expansion). That's where the real fun lies.
 
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Actually, I'd go so far as to suggest ignoring the original campaign and just starting from Shadows of Undrentide (the first expansion), which carries over into Hordes of the Underdark (the second expansion). That's where the real fun lies.
Guys actualy he will probably want get them both since you can get the NWN: Diamond for $20 which includes NWN, Shadows of Undrentide, Hordes of the Underdark, and the Kingmaker Expansion which includes the premium modules Kingmaker, ShadowGuard, and Witch's Wake.
 
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Actually, I'd go so far as to suggest ignoring the original campaign and just starting from Shadows of Undrentide (the first expansion), which carries over into Hordes of the Underdark (the second expansion). That's where the real fun lies.

Wow, that's a great idea. I've been thinking about reinstalling it again but have started the original campaign so many times that I didn't want to bother. Does it let you create a character of appropriate level to play the expansions or do they also start at level 1?
 
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