The Beatles

[Nienor]

I guess "I" must just be a physical manifestation of Musical Contrarianism then huh?

Sure it is. Their lyrics actually make sense. I mean, "I am the eggman, they are the walrus, I am the eggman, koo koo Kachoob"? The entirety of "Lucy in the SKy with Diamonds"?

They even screw up the lyrics to their own song.

Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da
......
Happy ever after in the market place
Desmond lets the children lend a hand
Molly stays at home and does her pretty face
And in the evening she's a singer with the band

CHorus

Happy ever after in the market place
Molly lets the children lend a hand
Desmond stays at home and does his pretty faceAnd in the evening she's a singer with the band
.......

That's your band that's better than The Beach Boys? Seriously, The Beach Boys were much much better lyricists.

And the Beach Boys never sang anything ridiculous? Almost everything they sing is ridiculous...

And why am I discussing this with you...you're just a silly manifestation

 

[Blackguard_]

And the Beach Boys never sang anything ridiculous? Almost everything they sing is ridiculous...

I never said they didn't, I said they were coherent. Sure, they might sing a bunch of silly songs about cars/girls/surfing/school etc. that seem out of place outside of like 1962, but are they are merely quaint songs reminding us of simpler times and not fever dreams about a Surrealist nightmare world of Eggmen, Mojo filters, and girls with kaleidoscope eyes.
.

And why am I discussing this with you...you're just a silly manifestation

Hey, we soulless manifestations of abstract concepts have feelings too...

 

[Nienor]

I never said they didn't, I said they were coherent. Sure, they might sing a bunch of silly songs about cars/girls/surfing/school etc. that seem out of place outside of like 1962, but they are merely quaint songs reminding us of a simpler time and not fever dreams about a Surrealist nightmare world of Eggmen and girls with kaleidoscope eyes.

I like Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds. It makes me feel like I'm on drugs...or something related to what I expect drugs feel like at least. And not all the Beatle's songs are about that anyway, so you can't use that as a standard.

Hey, we soulless manifestations of abstract concepts have feelings too...

I'm sorry that I underestimated you manifestations...

 

[Blackguard_]

I like Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds.

I like the way it sounds, but hate the lyrics. I prefer the likes of "While my Guitar gently weeps" and "Strawberry fields forever" and to a lesser extent "across the universe" for the bizarre stuff. It at least sounds like it means something. Lucy and I am walruss, come together, etc. just sound too "bizarre for the sake of bizarre" to me.

It makes me feel like I'm on drugs...or something related to what I expect drugs feel like at least.

I'd imagine being on drugs feels more like when I'm half-asleep and start having strange thoughts and audio hallucinations combined with being drunk. But I don't know either.

I wonder what would happen if I listened to the Beatles after pulling an all-nighter and having a few drinks?

And not all the Beatle's songs are about that anyway, so you can't use that as a standard.

Oh I never said the Beatle;s were bad or anything, merely that the Beach Boys were better.

I do love some of their stuff, just not enough of it to make me think they are better than the Beach Boys.

Anyway, it;s kind of hard to have a standard beatle's song, since they changed a lot over their career.

 

[Nienor]

I like the way it sounds, but hate the lyrics. I prefer the likes of "While my Guitar gently weeps" and "Strawberry fields forever" and to a lesser extent "across the universe" for the bizarre stuff. It at least sounds like it means something. Lucy and I am walruss, come together, etc. just sound too "bizarre for the sake of bizarre" to me.

I'd imagine being on drugs feels more like when I'm half-asleep and start having strange thoughts and audio hallucinations combined with being drunk. But I don't know either.

I wonder what would happen if I listened to the Beatles after pulling an all-nighter and having a few drinks?

Oh I never said the Beatle;s were bad or anything, merely that the Beach Boys were better.

I do love some of their stuff, just not enough of it to make me think they are better than the Beach Boys.

Anyway, it;s kind of hard to have a standard beatle's song, since they changed a lot over their career.

Once I'm legal, I'm going to have to give the Beatles a try after a couple of drinks

And I have given Pet Sounds a listen or two, but I didn't like it at all. The Beatles just did a lot more for music. Maybe it's just because I like experimental stuff...

(And While My Guitar Gently Weeps, Strawberry Fields, and Across the UNiverse are some of my favorites)

 

[palewildwoodflowr]

I've seen the LOVE show...absolutely amazing!!! I couldn't imagine myself ever enjoying Cirque du Soleil show, but this blew me away.

And my two cents...Beach Boys are classic because they caught the AMERICAN sound (not nessiarly US) and the Beatles are classic because they had the INTERNATIONAL sound.

I like a little ambiguity in my lyrics, it gives freedom to both the artist and the audience. I don't need to be told a story and I definately don't need to be told why that story is revelant.

 

[musicPhan#41]

i would say that the beach boys' Pet Sounds was better than a handful of the beatles albums... mostly older stuff. But I wouldn't put it above Sgt. Peppers or Abbey Road. And sure, the beatles started out as Brit-pop, with tons of screaming teen girl fans, but i think the Beach Boys surf tunes were equally cheese pop... although it is FUN music.

Using Walrus as an example of how beatles lyrics are incoherent weakens your argument, because everyone knows that's at one end of the spectrum. With the hundreds of beatles songs that exist, I could count the incoherent ones on my fingers. Yesterday, While My Guitar, Etc. Etc. have beautiful lyrics. They were definatley capable of great lyrics. I think one of the big reasons why the Beatles are considered the best band of all time is because of what their music meant to people around the world... especially in countries with oppressive government systems. I have friends from eastern europe who listened to the beatles in communist hungary back in the 60's and couldn't get enough of their sound... it sounded like freedom. it was revolutionary.


I also wanted to say that i think it's ok to like covers better that the originals. Some of you might think this is sacreligous but i like Rufus Wainwright's version of across the universe better than the one on Let It Be.

 

[palewildwoodflowr]

Some of you might think this is sacreligous but i like Rufus Wainwright's version of across the universe better than the one on Let It Be.

Agreed. But then again, I am a bigger Rufus fan than Beatle fan...he is so rediculously talented!!!

 

[~Wisdom Seeker~]

Anybody heard anything off the new album Love???

New? How is that possible?

 

[roseglass6370]

I guess "I" must just be a physical manifestation of Musical Contrarianism then huh?

Sure it is.The Beach Boys were much much better lyricists. The Beatle's lyrics were often not even coherent. "I am the eggman, they are teh walrus, Iam am the eggman, koo koo kachoob"? The entirety of "Lucy in the SKy with Diamonds"?

They even screw up the lyrics to their own song.

Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da
......
Happy ever after in the market place
Desmond lets the children lend a hand
Molly stays at home and does her pretty face
And in the evening she's a singer with the band

CHorus

Happy ever after in the market place
Molly lets the children lend a hand
Desmond stays at home and does his pretty face
And in the evening she's a singer with the band
.......

That's your band that's better than The Beach Boys?

Actually that wasn't a lyric screw up...

One day in a recording session Paul DID mess up the words but once the boys heard it played back they thought it was great and re-recorded it keeping the mistake. They realized it happened...they just thought it was funny and decided to keep it.

~Brooke

 

[Nienor]

New? How is that possible?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_(Cirque_du_Soleil)

It's pretty fantastic, I recommend it

 

[roseglass6370]

If you havent heard Love yet, go listen to it!! It rocks!!

 

[palewildwoodflowr]

I get *chills* during the first few bars of "Because"...just thinking about it now gives me goosebumps!

I also like the remixing of other song elements, I hear something new virtually every time I listen to it!

 

[amishparadise]

"YES!!"

I've been a Beatles fan all my life!

 

[MyHeart07]

I have HUNDREDS of Beatles videos.

I've been in love with them since 1964 when I was a little girl. I even saw them live on Ed Sullivan on that famous night.

My sisters were going crazy and my parents were going "Look at their hair!"



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHeI0TLnjDU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ym0x3vTw6yc&mode=related&search=

2 videos to start with.

 

[Gentle]

Not a fan either which is odd b/c Im an old burnt out acid head but they never did anything for me.
The Guess Who, Jefferson Airplane, Cream,CCR....I like the genre but I guess they were always to clean or something, boring to me.
peace
Gentle

 

[MyHeart07]

Not a fan either which is odd b/c Im an old burnt out acid head but they never did anything for me.
The Guess Who, Jefferson Airplane, Cream,CCR....I like the genre but I guess they were always to clean or something, boring to me.
peace
Gentle

Really? Well, To each his own.

You do realise though that they "started it all"

Here's something cool.

Alternateversion of Hello Goodbye. I think they were feeling a littlebit high when they taped this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rd3Q4hBbalo&mode=related&search=

 

[Gentle]

Really? Well, To each his own.

You do realise though that they "started it all"

Here's something cool.

Alternateversion of Hello Goodbye. I think they were feeling a littlebit high when they taped this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rd3Q4hBbalo&mode=related&search=

Im not sure they started it all but if you are asking me if I respect them and their talent, then yes. It's one of those bands I wished I could like ya know what I mean? I've tried, I hear the talent, I know, it just doesn't grab me
George Harrison alone is enough to respect that band..I mean I like everything about them but not the music. sux really
then again I felt that way about the Grateful Dead years ago now they are one of my favs
who knows
peace man
Gentle

 

[Reborn_in_Christ2003]

I love them. I had a professor last year who gave a class just on the Beatles and love, and then a chapel service...And they were completely different messages, yet both on Loving others!

 

[MyHeart07]

Yes. They were writing mostly all about Love. Paul still is!

Here's a few more before I sign off for now.

Have a good evening all! God Bless.

Hey Jude

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wygq3jUCHmc&mode=related&search=

Help!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2wrDMz2WwM&NR

Eleanor Rigby

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiCGRyGYKLI&mode=related&search=