I am perfectly civil. You seem to think to much of yourself and if you are a teacher, teaching than you should be more humble, long suffering and patient. Fruit of the spirit, that is what I would expect. Your the one who get's off the handle each time you do not like something.I have no idea what you mean by my supposedly seeing natural generation as a "prequel" to regeneration.
Jesus used the idea of birth to illustrate for Nicodemus the fact that there had to be a radical change in a person's disposition before they could participate in the Kingdom of God.
Nicodemus took this quite literally and Jesus gave him another illustration from nature which would correct him about that.
He used the idea of the invisible wind and it's visible effects to explain how the new spiritual birth worked with saved men. He said that there was a secret act of the wind for which we simply saw the results when we heard the sound etc.
He said this to illustrate that it is that way with being born again.
It isn't that one has to literally enter the womb again and be born again in that way. It was a spiritual application that He was teaching Nicodemus about. (One that he really should have known about since he was a teacher of Israel and should have known that men died "spiritually" when Adam sinned.)
The secret actions of the wind give visible results that we can see. Likewise the secret actions of the Spirit of God give visible results that we can see when one is born again.
If you can't follow what I mean then you'll have to ask someone else to explain it to you after this.
Whatever!
English is my first language since you asked - "sort of".
The necessity of not using "words that are non-existent in the context" makes no sense at all.
I could have just quoted the scripture I suppose. But then you have that in your Bible and you still are not able to understand what was being taught.
I suppose that you are in good company with Nicodemus in that respect. But remember that the Lord chided him for teaching when he was not up to par on certain things.
I won't trade insults with you anymore after this.
Please feel free to ask me any question you may have about my beliefs about OSAS or even the compatibility of predestination free will if you are going to comment about my beliefs along those lines. I'll be happy to respond.
Be civil though. Otherwise I won't respond.
Then make yourself further a victim by saying I do not like you because you are a Calvinist. Not quite. I deplore the teaching, not the sinner. I'm following what God says, not falling into the trap that you have.
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