faroukfarouk
Fading curmudgeon
I like Disciple's 'Battle Lines': I guess it's more hard rock than heavy metal, but its lyrics are very Biblical.
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Anyone who says metal is "devil music" needs to define how much distortion can be applied to a clean guitar sound before God steps aside and hands it over to the devil. They could also define how soon after playing one note you're allowed to play the next note before it becomes satanic.
People who say metal is of the devil really don't know what they're talking about. Music is like fire - you can use it to warm yourself at night or you can use it to burn someone's house down. The fire isn't good or evil, only the person ab/using it.
"I don't understand how you can't take songs like this one, and say thats its bad, or not worshipful to god. What is more worshipful than crying out to god through song!"
LOL! crying out to....satan more like! that's just terrible sounding. It sounds like the guy is about to grab a machette and start hacking people to death! The music is just as bad. I'd prefer to listen to worldly pop music like coldplay than to have to listen to music as nasty as this
That's my opinion and I stand by it. If you like that sort of music then good for you that you get something from it. What I get from it is something negative, that's all I'm saying and if you're offended then that is not what my intention is so please understand that people have opinions on different styles of music, it's nothing personal..
The way I see it, you can't sing a lullaby to a baby by screaming at it whilst thrashing about an electric guitar cranked up on a marshal amp. Music honouring our Creator should be artistic, soulful, have creativity that captures ones spirit and lifts them to natural worship. Music for other reasons like exposing evil can have dynamics of portrayals of darkness, using sound artistically to explain things is brilliant but screaming endlessly about your faith is for me totally un-edifying..
"The fire isn't good or evil, only the person ab/using it."
Music influences people strongly.. All that screaming is not good for the soul! It is certainly demonic. You know a tree by its fruits. What fruit comes from this music? bad fruit, the mind soaking up constant screams, nasty aggressive sounds with over loud ear damaging music. Not good for the soul, trust me.. I'm a music doctor
Again, most extreme metal (most metal, really) not my style, but if a professor of music could demonstrate that these sorts of metal are indeed well-constructed (might I even say legitimate) forms of music, then I would concede that a musician who creates music covered by the death metal genre is producing a fine musical product, albeit different than one created by Bach or Haydn.
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*sigh* satan and demons are beautiful? I rest my case because if you think they are beautiful creatures then no wonder you like that type of music..I shall definitely bow out now..
(Just for the heads-up, Lucifer was the king of Tyre
Peace out!
I'm not talking about the vocals, I'm talking about the music itself... Elend is a neoclassical ensemble with classical vocals as well as screams. Vocals aside, their music is well made... and the vocals are fitting given their subject matter. I suppose one could be argue vocals are another instrument contributing to the whole.TMM99 said:If you think screaming repeatedly with a growling demonic sounding voice is anything other than evil then I am bowing out of this thread for now.. demonic as in not sounding very pleasant, because it isn't! and demons aren't pleasant beings.
Agreed.TMM99 said:*sigh* satan and demons are beautiful? I rest my case because if you think they are beautiful creatures then no wonder you like that type of music..I shall definitely bow out now..
(Just for the heads-up, Lucifer was the king of Tyre
I'm well-versed in the symphonic and folk metal genres; it's the majority of the metal I've listened to for the last six years.... Did you listen to the song I linked to a few posts ago? Just as metal has subgenres, so do languages-- Eluveitie's preferred language is Helvetic Gaulish.anewman1993 said:First we need to look at genre. There are MANY genre of metal, many MANY sub genres. This is a song from a sub genre called "symphonic metal"
This is considered Folk metal, heavily influenced from folk music in Europe. They use traditional instruments and actually sang some pieces in Gaulish ( a deal languge, they brought scholoars in to makes sure grammer and pronuctation and stuff was right, though this song is english)
Remember what I said about assumptions? Try reading Isaiah fourteen and Ezekiel twenty-eight without the assumption that it's talking about Satan, and it sounds like the prophets are talking about the kings of Babylon and Tyre respectively.anewman1993 said:Thats what the bible says, now your arguing against the bible. I know the verse your talking about, look at how it describes the devil.
If the devil and his minions were not good looking people would not follow them. I'm not saying good, they are evil, but much of the time evil LOOKS good. which is what your arguing against. But i'm done, please continue to lead people away from the gosple with your legalistic nonsense, its leading people to hell, thats on your head.
I'd prefer to do other things with my time than sort through demonic sounding Christian thrash metal music thanks! I don't care about the content of lyrics, it is the constant heavy sound and energy that is created with all that horrible and un-edifying screaming and noise. They could scream all they want about their faith, it just doesn't gel with me, that's all..
I have an opinion, so do you, they are in opposition so lets bow out and continue with our days If you enjoy the music that I find terrible then I respect that, but you should respect that I do not like it. I like some Christian metal, not much though, I still haven't heard that special band that can be simply original.. but that goes for all bands, there just aren't many who are original sounding :/
"You have begun with the assumption that some metal is inherently evil"
If you think screaming repeatedly with a growling demonic sounding voice is anything other than evil then I am bowing out of this thread for now.. demonic as in not sounding very pleasant, because it isn't! and demons aren't pleasant beings.