The whole concept of domestic discipline is sick. Why is it only women (and children) who are subjected to discipline?
Those who teach the wifely submission thing are usually pretty hot on hierarchy - God, pastor, husband, wife. Quite unbiblical of course, buy its disciples cannot be convinced otherwise. Evil always tends towards dogmatism and authoritarianism.
Are husbands so wise, mature, and Christlike that they have no faults? Whose husband regularly goes to their pastor or church leadership, asks for them to appraise him, and without question subjects himself to correction and discipline i.e. some form of punishment? Yet, these same men assume their right to be right enough to punish their wivers for being wrong!!!!
The whole principle is demonic to the core - there is inequality of treatment between the sexes, it reinforces personal power, it is self righteous and judgemenatl of another by virtue merely of position, not by the validity of their viewpoint, and one person's assessment is enforced upon another, whether they agree or not. Look at any dictator, ancient or modern, and you will see all these characterictics exhibited in the way they ruled.
Jesus said Matt 7:15-20 By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? Likewise every good tree bears good fruit , but a bad tree bears bad fruit . A good tree cannot bear bad fruit , and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit . Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them. NIV
None of the characteristics I have mentioned exhibit the humbleness of the suffering servant which are manifested in the fruit of the Spirit.
John
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