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He also said there was a masonic lobby

Most of us would laugh at the idea of a masonic mafia at work in the Vatican. I’m not sure that we should

http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/com...rk-in-the-vatican-im-not-sure-that-we-should/

Notice The use of the term mafia

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/c...g-part-of-clerical-mafia-that-plotted-francis

Cardinal Danneels admits being part of clerical ‘Mafia’ that plotted Francis’ election

I am not going to report you because I think of you as a friend
I know you deeply love the Church and our Lord Jesus Christ, but I feel like this post is a bit off topic

this thread is about Our Lady of Fatima, the message she gave us, the humble little children she appeared too

it is about how our Lady helps us grow close to Jesus :)

it is not about the election of this Pope or that Pope.....
please do not feel the need to edit your post, maybe LivingWordUnity will enjoy what you posted or maybe other people will be edified by it :)
you always post such interesting stuff :)

but please try to stay more on topic
not for my sake
but out of respect for Our Lady of Fatima and the message She brought to us
 
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I am not going to report you because I think of you as a friend
I know you deeply love the Church and our Lord Jesus Christ, but I feel like this post is a bit off topic

this thread is about Our Lady of Fatima, the message she gave us, the humble little children she appeared too

it is about how our Lady helps us grow close to Jesus :)

it is not about the election of this Pope or that Pope.....
please do not feel the need to edit your post, maybe LivingWordUnity will enjoy what you posted or maybe other people will be edified by it :)
you always post such interesting stuff :)

but please try to stay more on topic
not for my sake
but out of respect for Our Lady of Fatima and the message She brought to us

I appologise rham, i think of you as a friend too. But i do think its related to fatima.. pope benedict xvi said the 3rd secret is similar to other marian apperitions and they often refer to masonic sects. However out of respect to you i will refrain from that side of things.
 
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This is what OBOB has become.

The Catholic cyber National Enquirer. It wouldn't be so sad, if there weren't good people who actually buy in to this absolute garbage. We've seen it for years - the same people, falling for variants of the same bizarro world conspiracies over and anon.
 
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I am not sure about any of these apparitions. Some could very well be genuine. I love Lourdes for example. It does feel very special there.

I was going to Fatima last month but was then too ill to go!

I have other thoughts on the church and its beliefs which i wont start in this this thread but will open a new one.
 
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The same group who conspired for francis to be pope tried to get him electrd in 2005 and prevent cardinal ratzinger from becoming pope... they have openly admitted this... maybe they are the demons referenced
I dunno know. It was 11 years ago. I wish I could remember the story this old lady told me. She printed out, I want to say the Spirit Daily web site. But at the end, it's all speculation. The thing about me is this crazy memory I have. I can remember stuff most ppl forget and this was said before any of this happened. There was some crazy story about Franciscans and demons and somebody screaming she made me do it... I don't know. I can't remember. Maybe there is an archive that can be looked up. This poor lady. She was my moms best friend since childhood and she's very faithful and she's godmother to my sister and to my youngest child. She would tell me all kind of mystical stuff. She was a big believer in Medj. which always makes me raise a brow. Granted, this woman also told me demons were coming through the x box.
 
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I'm a little bit perplexed. We go through several decades of clergy sexual abuse and bishops and cardinals....

And people are saying that cardinals who voted for Pope Francis are the "depraved priests?"

Sheesh! Now I've heard it all.
 
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I'm a little bit perplexed. We go through several decades of clergy sexual abuse and bishops and cardinals....

And people are saying that cardinals who voted for Pope Francis are the "depraved priests?"

Sheesh! Now I've heard it all.

In before "bu-bu-but other people raped kids too! ...and besides, most of the Priests who were reported in recent decades for raping kids were reported for acts after VII!!"
 
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I think it's documented that there were people who were pressuring Benedict XVI to resign. So because of that some people believe that he left under duress. If he resigned totally based on what he wanted to do then Francis was validly elected, but if Benedict XVI resigned because of that pressure then he's still the Pope whether people like it or not.
well this is what I'd like to know, since there is no precedent to popes resigning, where does it say one even can? Look, I do not put any stock in craziness, I really don't and I know as a little sheep this is not on me, gates of hell will not prevail and all I have to do is live my life and try to be holy and be ready when Jesus comes but one can not help but think something is just odd just by reading the times in which we live. We had JPll and he was called liberal himself and then Benedict's elected. He supposed to transition us and get us more to the right and bring some stuff back, and he up and quits? Can't help but recall his homely at Jpll's funeral. Smaller Church, purer Church. Then we get Francis? It seems to me one of those, Benedict or Francis wasn't supposed to be pope. And Benedict really didn't want to be pope. I do not know what to make of it so I don't think about it but I will go on record saying this, since the second they announced Francis as pope I had a weird feeling and I had no idea who he was. Then when I saw him in the media my first impression of him was, and this is the truth, I felt he's trying to steal JPll's image. Like he's trying to be a JPll knock off, to have his popularity and the ppl's love. These are just my feelings, my gut and I do not put any stock in it, I could be just nuts. I'm just sitting back and letting it play out, not really forming opinions, at least I am trying not to but expressing my inner gut feelings. I'm trying to be neutral and give him the benefit of the doubt but my gut says this is all so odd. I try to put it in context also. And look, this is then I thought this and since then I come to find out others feels the same and he's really is bringing a sword. For all those that think he's so wonderful and great, he is bringing a sword, dividing and putting ppl's faith in a crisis. So do we look at the fruit or what? A pope should bring peace and not confusion. So I don't know, I do not know. I. just. don't. know. And let me say this to all. This has nothing to do with not submitting. PPl who didn't submit before, they're not submitting now... the pope has switch gears is all, leaving them to not have to submit. He has not address any of their dissent. he has just drooped the subject like a hot potato. The pope has normalized for lack of a much better word, the cafetieres. Is that really mercy? It would be if I saw the repentance but instead we have chaos in this world. I do not see the repentance of St. Faustia's revelations. I see normalizing sin and calling it mercy while still calling it sin. Now, i do not like to express my inner most feelings on the matter that even I realize I could just be being deceived myself, I might just be crazy. I am very open to being wrong, being proven wrong and I do not like expressing this because i do not like putting doubts on anyone else. I do not want to plant anything in anyone's head. So please, pay me no mind. But when i see many other folks whom I have known for a long time feel the same, Hmm is all i can say. Hmm. I'm just sitting back and taking it all in. I'll never leave the Church because I know this is all just a moment in time in the Church and what ever it turns out to be God will handle it all so I am not worried. If any of us in and out of the CC is on Jesus' right, we have nothing to fear.
 
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I'm a little bit perplexed. We go through several decades of clergy sexual abuse and bishops and cardinals....

And people are saying that cardinals who voted for Pope Francis are the "depraved priests?"

Sheesh! Now I've heard it all.
For the record. I never said priests/ bishops/cardinals are depraved.
 
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I dunno know. It was 11 years ago. I wish I could remember the story this old lady told me. She printed out, I want to say the Spirit Daily web site. But at the end, it's all speculation. The thing about me is this crazy memory I have. I can remember stuff most ppl forget and this was said before any of this happened. There was some crazy story about Franciscans and demons and somebody screaming she made me do it... I don't know. I can't remember. Maybe there is an archive that can be looked up. This poor lady. She was my moms best friend since childhood and she's very faithful and she's godmother to my sister and to my youngest child. She would tell me all kind of mystical stuff. She was a big believer in Medj. which always makes me raise a brow. Granted, this woman also told me demons were coming through the x box.

I dont think she was wrong about the xbox thing. It depends on what she means as demons
 
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Granted. There are people on this forum who wanted that. But being held prisoner in the Vatican by a cabal of evil Cardinals referred to in Prophecy as demons who got Pope Francis elected.

This is what OBOB has become.
It's odd is all I am saying. Not the conspiracies, leaving them all out, but to step back and look at the chain of events since 2005. It's almost as if Benedict needed to be in there to get some things done because of this. I dunno, it's just weird to me. All of this is weird.
 
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I dont think she was wrong about the xbox thing. It depends on what she means as demons
lol. I won't rule it out. Look, here is the deal. We either believe there is a spiritual battle or not. Why would any of us think that the enemy is going to play fair with us and not attack us in the worse kind of way? Why would anyone think the enemy would not try to stop electing a pope?
 
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I think it's documented that there were people who were pressuring Benedict XVI to resign.
Okay. Look. This ^ I really didn't know. And this is what I mean where I'll feel some sort of way and then I find out my feelings aren't that crazy at all. I found it beyond strange that he resigned. Popes don't resign.
 
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Okay. Look. This ^ I really didn't know. And this is what I mean where I'll feel some sort of way and then I find out my feelings aren't that crazy at all. I found it beyond strange that he resigned. Popes don't resign.
In the book Light of the World (published in 2010), he was asked by an interviewer, "Have you considered resigning?" That seems to indicate that there was a lot of pressure on him to resign. Why else would the interviewer ask him that question? And if he felt pressured to resign then it would mean that he resigned under duress.

See:
http://www.ignatius.com/promotions/light-of-the-world/
 
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It's odd is all I am saying. Not the conspiracies, leaving them all out, but to step back and look at the chain of events since 2005. It's almost as if Benedict needed to be in there to get some things done because of this. I dunno, it's just weird to me. All of this is weird.

i agree, it's all weird and unexpected.
But to the Early Christians the world of Rome and it's leaders proclaiming themselves to be gods was also weird. So was throwing people to the lions which was deemed as 'sport' in those days weird.

What we have to remember is that God won't let this go on forever.
 
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i agree, it's all weird and unexpected.
But to the Early Christians the world of Rome and and leaders proclaiming themselves to be gods was also weird. So was throwing people to the lions which was deemed as 'sport' in those days weird.

What we have to remember is that God won't let this go on forever.

Well...
Buckle up, tomorrow Francis is set to meet with the Islamic leader.

I'm readying myself to suffer yet another attack on my faith :(

Christe Eleison!
 
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In the book Light of the World (published in 2010), he was asked by an interviewer, "Have you considered resigning?" That seems to indicate that there was a lot of pressure on him to resign. Why else would the interviewer ask him that question? And if he felt pressured to resign then it would mean that he resigned under duress.

See:
http://www.ignatius.com/promotions/light-of-the-world/
thanks very much for the link. i just ordered.:)
 
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