zeke37
IMO...
the OT is our school master. it was in perfect context.You "gave" me out of context scripture from the Old Covenant. You have actual revelation from the New Covenant and it written there for all to see. It is in perfect context and you can take it to the bank. It's there to be a warning for us all.
the mark of God is describved the same way as the mark of the beast.
the mark of God was not a literal mark, so why assume the mark of the beast is?
doesn't the bible interpret itself?
i think it is an either or thing.It does say "If any man worship...AND receive his mark...
You can be certain that the devil knows the requirement and you'll be required to give homage after taking the mark (or you'll be killed).
either one just goes along with his kingdom,
or one is deceived to the point that they actually worship him as God.
plus I do not believe that the beheaded ones of Rev20 are trib martyrs at all,
but rather the beheaded through out the centuries, like the notible John the Baptist.
Most all the disciples were martyred.
so, the dead marytrs in heaven AND the alive on earth that do not take the mark, reign for the 1000 years.
the firstfruits.
i try real hard to always "take a good look".Take a good look because you'll be accountable for it.
"And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name. Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus."
Rev 14:9-12 (KJV)
i believe the scriptures 100%. it's about the way one views it tho. interpretation.
i do indeed believe that the seduced potential bride to be, will receive the wrath of God.
I believe that they will be refined in the Millennium.
only the elect rest, not the non elect.
any believer that fails in the trib's hour of temptation, will not rest in the Millennium.
and it is the smoke of their torments that rise forever, not them being fried in hell for eternity.
imo the elect shall help to kick those tormenst up....and out....refining.
i agree.Your faith and patience is based on your receiving the Word and not taking the mark.
be carefull that your doctrine is not misapplied.These are pearls of wisdom to be received by God's people.
pre trib is a sure way to be deceived.
pre trib teaches that Jesus comes first, but Jesus teaches that the false Christ comes first.
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