You're walking down a dark alley . . .

[katautumn]

No, I honestly don't believe I would. As a sexual assault survivor, I know that predators come in all stripes. The two guys who raped me - one was a devout Catholic, the other was a staunch Baptist who never missed a Sunday service. If I saw ten guys approaching me in a dark alley, it wouldn't matter if they'd just come back from Bible study, a strip club or their grandmother's house. They would still be ten guys against one of me, placing me in a potentially compromising situation. Their previous whereabouts are inconsequential. They could still be potential predators.

 

[JGL53]

Both John List and Dennis Rader were deacons and regular church goers, yet both turned out to have committed multiple murders, including the murder of children.

Thus - the facts say that church attendance is not a good guide to the private life of a person in terms of moral or immoral behavior, any more than non-church attendance is.

This poll is ridiculous on its face.

 

[.Sabre.]

Not particularly, after all, as I did read one poster say, how would you know unless they had bibles or were discussing the Word?

 

[NPH]

I'd probably be more worried since their holy book exhorts them to put people like myself to death.

 

[Flame]

I'd probably be more worried since their holy book exhorts them to put people like myself to death.

Put people like you to death????????????? What kinda people??

 

[Flame]

That's nice and all, but it's not realistic in the slightest. If it were, then no one would ever die as a result of Christianity-related violence, and that is clearly not the case.

Way to be intolerant. Your religion is not the only one that teaches peace and tolerance of others, so don't act like it is.

Boy, are we defensive??

First, I don't hear alot about Christianity related violence in the news.
Second, I do belive faith is the basis of all religion, IF you don't practice faith, you DO NOT practice religion.

Thirdly, I was not pretending anything. Where in my comment did it say my religion is right or my religion is the ONLY on that practices tolerence?

But by all means lets all get on here and tear apart each others comments!

 

[wanderingone]

No. Going to Bible class just means you went to Bible class, for all I know it was a class run by phelps.

 

[wanderingone]

I am very surprised at the results of this poll. We can't agree that devout Christians are less likely to beat you up than your average rough-street ghetto dweller? I'm shocked.

Wow... so the 10 people would not only be coming from bible study and I would miraculously KNOW this but they wouldn't even be from "the neighborhood" I know I always assumed people not from "the neighborhood" were up to great things when I saw them wandering in packs through my "ghetto" neighborhood when I was a kid. Because after all it couldn't be 10 Christians "ghetto dwellers" could it?

I think you should not be shocked at all by the reaction to your poll.

I also think you might need to consider your own stereotypes and ideas.

I wouldn't care if they were 10 kids with white shirts and little black name tags.. walking down the street in a neighborhood of luxury mansions on a bright Sunday morning.. 10 people coming AT me obviously together presents a possible threat to me.

 

[Waiting for the Verdict]

Wow, such a disconnect from reality. So tell me, given that roughly 40% of the US are professed evangelical Christians, how is it that you manage to stay alive? The lies grow so old . . .


Way to stereotype. You know, the bigotry gets a little old. You sound like Malcolm X talking about the 'white devils', only with Christians. Let me guess, I bet you think that all black people live in 'the hood' and listen to rap music and talk about 'hizzoes'? And everyone from the South listens to Merl Haggard and spends their free time sitting on the porch in a rocking chair? Oh, and all Australians wrestle crocodiles and carry bowie knives, right? Maybe we shouldn't let people from the middle east into the US because they all want to blow us up, right? People irritate me the way they buy into any stereotypical BS that the media feeds them.

Conisidering how much dracon gets harrassed by your fellow fundies on this site alone, karate, I'd say her fears are entirely justied. I have gay friends and I would not want them walking any where near Bible students. The Good Book has been used to bash in more heads than any other 'good' book in history. I want my friends safe. Your fundie friends would not likely let them stay safe.

And I say that as a former fundie.

 

[Flame]

Can we say CHRISTIAN LOVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[gwenmead]

I would not feel better or safer knowing said 10 guys just came from Bible study.

Experience has taught me that knowledge of holy writ is no good indicator of a person's moral inclinations, much less their behavior. Frankly, I'd feel safer in that alley if I knew they were all gay.

 

[NPH]

Put people like you to death????????????? What kinda people??

The gay, atheist blasphemer, non-sabbath honoring, shrimp-eating, cutting-my-beard, smart-mouth-with-my-mom kind

 

[KarateCowboy]

Conisidering how much dracon gets harrassed by your fellow fundies on this site alone, karate, I'd say her fears are entirely justied. I have gay friends and I would not want them walking any where near Bible students. The Good Book has been used to bash in more heads than any other 'good' book in history. I want my friends safe. Your fundie friends would not likely let them stay safe.

And I say that as a former fundie.

Ah yes, I love the logic. Party A who lives a lifestyle against Christian principles voluntarily goes to a Christian message board and instigates arguments with Christians (Party B). Party B inevitably gets tired of being called bigots, haters, intolerant, wicked, violent, 'fundies', etc. while simultaneously just defending their own principles at their own site, and when Party A is offended, it's Party B that's at fault somehow. It's like a racist going to an abolitionist conference and being offended when they hear that what they do is wrong. I have yet to see any proof that evangelical Christians ('fundies', as you so pejoratively call them) are any more likely to assault a homosexual than any other person. Such fear is based on ignorance.

Oh and tell me: how on earth would these people know that anyone is homosexual? All these people making up lame things like "Hurr, I'm gay so they would probably beat me up!" Why in the name of Linus Torvalds are you assuming that they know this? Never mind the fact that presuming that because they are Christians that they are more likely to 'hate' homosexuals or assault them is prejudice in itself. Never mind the fact that such statements put the lie to the claim that homosexuality is not against Christian principles. What I really want to know is how you think they are going to magically know that someone is homosexual? What do you do? Walk around carrying a banner saying "Sodomy Lobby"? Or maybe you all wear pink and talk with lisps? Maybe all of your t-shirts say 'David Bowie Lover ' on them and your skin is rainbow colored? I think it's pretty obvious by now that anyone claiming that they are more likely to be beat up by a band of unknowing Christians because they are homosexual is just looking for a way to trash Christians.

You know, this topic wasn't even about homosexuality and yet someone had to bring it up.

 

[KarateCowboy]

Can we say CHRISTIAN LOVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Obviously not meaning "love for Christians", because I sense very little of that here.

 

[HannahBanana]

Obviously not meaning "love for Christians", because I sense very little of that here.

Maybe if more Christians showed love to us non-Christians, we'd be more likely to show it back to you. "Do to others what you would have them do to you" (Matthew 7:12, NIV). Remember that handy little line?

 

[BibleMadeMeDoIt]

No, I would not feel more comfortable. I read somewhere that 75% of prisoners identify themselves as Christian.

 

[KarateCowboy]

Maybe if more Christians showed love to us non-Christians, we'd be more likely to show it back to you. "Do to others what you would have them do to you" (Matthew 7:12, NIV). Remember that handy little line?

Hmmm, do unto others, eh? So, going by what I've seen from most non-believers on this sub-forum you want me to: go to an 'agnostic website', declare them guilty until proven innocent, talk about how bad they are, blame them for crimes they aren't even associated with, use double standards when judging their behavior, insult them with stereotypes, and then chastise them for being irritated by it?

 

[KarateCowboy]

No, I would not feel more comfortable. I read somewhere that 75% of prisoners identify themselves as Christian.

Oh yeah, there we go! And 100% of suicide bombers are Muslims! Therefore, all Muslims are suicide bombers!

Ya know, I have to wonder why 75% of imprisoned criminals in Japan are Christian, when only 1% of the population in general is. . .

 

[HannahBanana]

Hmmm, do unto others, eh? So, going by what I've seen from most non-believers on this sub-forum you want me to: go to an 'agnostic website', declare them guilty until proven innocent, talk about how bad they are, blame them for crimes they aren't even associated with, use double standards when judging their behavior, insult them with stereotypes, and then chastise them for being irritated by it?

Agnostics don't follow by the Bible, Christians do. So why would you expect an Agnostic to follow Christian standards? It's your holy book, therefore, you should follow its rules, just as Agnostics follow their own self-made morals.

EDIT: And when I say "follow its rules" I mean, do so without intentionally offending others. So, no, I don't think you should go around harassing Agnostics.