You're grounded!!!

[Boomygrrl]

I am a heterosexual female and have experienced sexism, although likely to a lesser degree than women 30, 60, 90 years ago. There's still discrimination, but things are better.

I feel like I can empathize with the homosexual male or female who has to deal with discrimination today. I cannot know all that they go through, but I know the frustration and anger that goes along with being treated like you are not a full adult.

Religion can dictate whatever they want. I agree with the separation of church and state. You have every right to believe homosexuality is a sin. But, as a society, why are homosexual people not allowed to marry? This seems like a fundamental right. I would hate to live in a society that told me I could not marry my fiance because we are the opposite sex. Marriage encourages stability, it encourages fidelity (it encourages, but we know that isn't fool-proof), it encourages commitment. If I wasn't allowed to marry, I would have a difficult time taking my dating relationships seriously. I am still at my sexual prime...I should be living it up, but I don't want to...I want to settle down and get married. (and will be soon! yay!) Why would we not allow the same joy, the same commitment for homosexual people.

I feel like, as a society, we are the parent grounding the teenager. Homosexual adults deserve to be treated like adults! It's a shame that they have to put up with this.

Given that there is a separation of church and state, although sometimes you wouldn't know that from the actions of some people, how can we justify not letting two adults who truly want to commit to each other a chance to experience the same joys and rights of the rest of us?

Boomygrrl

 

[AuraTwilight]

Agreed 100%

 

[Deadbolt]

Well said, some people in the other thread would do well to read this.

 

[YoungJoonKim]

Why should my future tax dollars pay for something I don't believe? lol
Like really?
I am willing to let homosexual to marry I mean, its not my problem right? Its their sin and I don't want their burden to be mine. But to support I don't believe is oppression, not freedom.
So as majority, I denounce such thing
I want my tax dollar to support your health care, not the marriage.
I'm sorry.
But I'm happy to announce your marriage to be true. Without my tax dollar, that is.

 

[PassionFruit]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6iYliBayh4

Yeah, why is that?

 

[moogley]

Why should my future tax dollars pay for something I don't believe?

Is that the same as government giving money to schools who preach things I don't believe?

 

[.Sabre.]

Is that the same as government giving money to schools who preach things I don't believe?

Quite true.

 

[YoungJoonKim]

...that is touchy issue my friend.
schools teach education and not all schools "preach things I don't believe"
When I was in public school, I was never taught of any religious stuff so HA (lol)

 

[.Sabre.]

...that is touchy issue my friend.
schools teach education and not all schools "preach things I don't believe"
When I was in public school, I was never taught of any religious stuff so HA (lol)

Well, you don't believe in evolution....

 

[YoungJoonKim]

.....what the...how is that related to anything other than the fact what I believe or not believe.
I consider evolution as possibility as well as creationism.
I never agree on one term because its too risky lol.

 

[.Sabre.]

.....what the...how is that related to anything other than the fact what I believe or not believe.
I consider evolution as possibility as well as creationism.
I never agree on one term because its too risky lol.

Sorry, didn't mean to offend!

 

[YoungJoonKim]

I'm not offended yet

 

[Ohioprof]

Why should my future tax dollars pay for something I don't believe? lol
Like really?
I am willing to let homosexual to marry I mean, its not my problem right? Its their sin and I don't want their burden to be mine. But to support I don't believe is oppression, not freedom.
So as majority, I denounce such thing
I want my tax dollar to support your health care, not the marriage.
I'm sorry.
But I'm happy to announce your marriage to be true. Without my tax dollar, that is.

At age 17, you don't pay much in taxes, as you are a kid.

Marriage does not cost you anything. Married couples still pay taxes. The deductions for children apply whether couples are legally married or not.

Legal same-sex marriage benefits the whole society, by promoting family stability and helping the children of same-sex couples. It costs the taxpayers nothing.

 

[Ohioprof]

Well, you don't believe in evolution....

Public schools do not "preach" evolution. Evolution is not a religious doctrine. It's scientific theory. All scientific theory is open to challenge and to revision. Public schools cannot teach "creationism," because it is religious doctrine.

 

[Boomygrrl]

If I'm not mistaken...heterosexual people are not the only ones that pay taxes.
We pay taxes for all sorts of things that we might not agree with. That's the price we pay for living in our diverse society (and for having corrupt politicians).
This issue has nothing to do with taxes and everything to do with one's civil rights.


Boomygrrl

 

[moogley]

and not all schools "preach things I don't believe"

You're correct. But some do... Thats similar to having some welfare/tax-benefit going to people you don't think deserve it....
There are alot of people who are really frauding you're tax dollars - and the vast majority of them aren't homosexual couples.

 

[moogley]

To clarify for my earlier post; in my country, Australia, private and public schools are given money from the government. The majority of those private school are christian or some other religion - who often preach their religious message (not teach, we don't have any young earth creationists here.... thank God)

 

[.Sabre.]

Public schools do not "preach" evolution. Evolution is not a religious doctrine. It's scientific theory. All scientific theory is open to challenge and to revision. Public schools cannot teach "creationism," because it is religious doctrine.

You're right about that, but I mentioned it because there are people who think they shouldn't pay taxes toward it being taught in schools because they do not believe in it.

 

[Ohioprof]

To clarify for my earlier post; in my country, Australia, private and public schools are given money from the government. The majority of those private school are christian or some other religion - who often preach their religious message (not teach, we don't have any young earth creationists here.... thank God)

Here in the U.S., private schools are not supposed to get money from the government, but this principle has been eroded, unfortunately, in recent years, with support from the Bush administration. We now have experiments with "vouchers," to send children to private schools, many of which are religious schools. I think this amounts to government funding of private schools, and I strongly object to school vouchers. Such practices erode the separation of church and state and allow our tax money to be used for religious indoctrination, which I find appalling.

 

[Ohioprof]

You're right about that, but I mentioned it because there are people who think they shouldn't pay taxes toward it being taught in schools because they do not believe in it.

Too bad for them. If they don't want their kids to learn science, they can pay to send their kids to private schools that teach something different. I think this will ultimately be to the detriment of their kids, but that's up to the parents.