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Well, you're right lol
I wouldn't want my tax dollar (in future) go to some corrupted government. I suppose that is more serious than paying for marriage benefits for homosexuals.

In my point of view, I insist government to pay some portion of tuitions of the private school who desire to achieve higher academic standard and learn in a better environment than public schools.
 
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Well, you're right lol
I wouldn't want my tax dollar (in future) go to some corrupted government. I suppose that is more serious than paying for marriage benefits for homosexuals.

In my point of view, I insist government to pay some portion of tuitions of the private school who desire to achieve higher academic standard and learn in a better environment than public schools.
I disagree with you about this, particularly if the government is paying for religious schools. The government should not be using tax money to indoctrinate anyone in any religion.
 
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Well, you're right lol
I wouldn't want my tax dollar (in future) go to some corrupted government. I suppose that is more serious than paying for marriage benefits for homosexuals.

In my point of view, I insist government to pay some portion of tuitions of the private school who desire to achieve higher academic standard and learn in a better environment than public schools.
Your tax money is going to go to the government. That what taxes are....payments to support the government. It's our government, and we need to pay for it. You can regard it as corrupt, and some of it probably is. But governments provide a lot of necessary services. I, for one, have no problem with paying taxes, because I believe we have to pay for those government services that we use, from police and fire protection, to highway construction and repair, to the funding of our military, even though I disagree with the current war. We get what we pay for.
 
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I disagree with you about this, particularly if the government is paying for religious schools. The government should not be using tax money to indoctrinate anyone in any religion.

Why not, they already do. Kids are indoctrinated in the religion of political correctness and absolute tolerance every day right now.
 
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Well, you're right lol
I wouldn't want my tax dollar (in future) go to some corrupted government. I suppose that is more serious than paying for marriage benefits for homosexuals.

In my point of view, I insist government to pay some portion of tuitions of the private school who desire to achieve higher academic standard and learn in a better environment than public schools.

I would agree that the government has a duty to either improve the public schools or help those that need it pay for an alternative. That's the idea behind the various voucher proposals that have been so vehemently opposed by the NEA because if they came to pass, the schools would either have to produce results or they would die from lack of funding.

Interestingly, a group that statistically sends their kids to private school at a much higher rate than the overall population is public school teachers. I don't see how this is possible considering that private schools are only for the rich and public school teachers are so woefully underpaid. Seems that one of both of those two "facts" is a myth.
 
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Interestingly, a group that statistically sends their kids to private school at a much higher rate than the overall population is public school teachers. I don't see how this is possible considering that private schools are only for the rich and public school teachers are so woefully underpaid. Seems that one of both of those two "facts" is a myth.

so true (and well documented).:thumbsup:
 
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I disagree with you about this, particularly if the government is paying for religious schools. The government should not be using tax money to indoctrinate anyone in any religion.
If its students desire to go to the religious schools, its good.
If your against that.......er......no comment.

Government can live off corporation profit income tax which is in billions.
I don't see it as, "paying government" but "funding for our future"
For example, my future* pension and health care.
 
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Very personal morality should not be dictated by law. We are not children. We are adults.

If we choose to have sex in some way with other "CONSENTING ADULTS", then we should be allowed to.

If we choose to live our lives without HURTING OTHERS, then we should.

Otherwise, some of the "moral laws" on the books, based on Biblical precedent, have no place in our free society.

Otherwise we would be a theocracy.
 
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Very personal morality should not be dictated by law. We are not children. We are adults.

If we choose to have sex in some way with other "CONSENTING ADULTS", then we should be allowed to.

If we choose to live our lives without HURTING OTHERS, then we should.

Otherwise, some of the "moral laws" on the books, based on Biblical precedent, have no place in our free society.

Otherwise we would be a theocracy.
Exactly.
 
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So well said!!!:thumbsup: Question about later posts. To my knowledge I am not aware of whole lot of tax dollars coming my way. I don't notice anything that the government has given me since marriage that I didn't have before except a joint tax form. I do not understand the Opposition to gay marriage in light of the supposed seperation of church and state. Outside of "personal" belief which is just that "personal" why else do we need to pass laws on the subject at all. Right now heterosexual people who live together have more basic rights than homosexual couples in many states. It just isn't right.:scratch:
 
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So what can we do about it?
My marriage will not be threatened if homosexuals are allowed to marry. My rights will not be hurt. I can continue to live my life as I see fit. So why not extend that to homosexual people? Marriage will provide more security for the couple. Marriage takes commitment.

Are the ones who want to keep homosexuals from getting married-- do they not like the idea of a homosexual person living a mainstream life? It's harder to hate someone if their lifestyle is similar to yours. It's more self-gratifying (self-righteous) to talk about them like they are freaks. Is it not? Just a thought.


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